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RE: Yeah right - 3/29/2007 3:12:33 PM   
MagiksSlave


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Status: offline 		Honestly if she was lieing she was lieing to herself... She may have needed to make it seem to everyone that it was a 24/7 real life thing in order to keep the fantasy alive for herself. just my opinion but thats how it seems to me.


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RE: Yeah right - 3/29/2007 4:16:29 PM   
tricia


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Status: offline 		When I was young and didn't want to go to school, I would lie and tell mom I had a stomach ache/headache, toothache.   Perhaps it was the guilt or just my over thinking it - but an hour later I actually had whatever ailment I made up on that particular day.
Maybe that is the case in some of the examples you mention.  They want it so badly they convince themselves it's the truth in order to validate themselves.
 
I see it all the time in the CM profiles.  I might smile and shake my head - but I don't feel the need to call people out on it.
 
Usually my profile is limited to saying that i'm content and not seeking.  Even on the days I'm not so content - I don't change it.  Perhaps the real time friends I have here look at it thinking "yeah right."  On a really bad day - you'll find it blank.  (If I've learned nothing else here, I have learned that sometimes things are better left unsaid.)

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RE: Yeah right - 3/29/2007 6:37:17 PM   
Squeakers


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tricia

When I was young and didn't want to go to school, I would lie and tell mom I had a stomach ache/headache, toothache.   Perhaps it was the guilt or just my over thinking it - but an hour later I actually had whatever ailment I made up on that particular day.
Maybe that is the case in some of the examples you mention.  They want it so badly they convince themselves it's the truth in order to validate themselves.
 
I see it all the time in the CM profiles.  I might smile and shake my head - but I don't feel the need to call people out on it.
 
Usually my profile is limited to saying that i'm content and not seeking.  Even on the days I'm not so content - I don't change it.  Perhaps the real time friends I have here look at it thinking "yeah right."  On a really bad day - you'll find it blank.  (If I've learned nothing else here, I have learned that sometimes things are better left unsaid.)
    I really liked this response.   There is a real point in what you said about 'faking' an illness and it appears.   Can the mind make something that is purely fantasy a reality?   Mentally can a person want something so badly that it becomes real for them, so real that they will defend it?   I really think it is possible that mentally we can trick ourselves in distorting the actual truth even when it is pointed out to us.   The only concrete example that comes to mind, is that of an anorexic, who really sees herself as being fat.   The scale can prove it otherwise, people can tell her she is not fat, but she still believes and actually sees herself as being fat.  I for one have personally said to others who have not an ounce of body fat but are dieting because they 'are fat', "Yeah right."
    So I can understand a person so wanting something that it becomes real for them.   And really that was the point of my post, not to pass judgement, not to single anyone out, not that I personally give a crap what others do other than coming to a point of understanding.       
    I appreciated all the posts.  

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RE: Yeah right - 3/29/2007 11:26:04 PM   
Driver1961


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I do the 'Yeah Right' at times nowadays, now that I'm more computer savvy and realise cyber appears to be a haven of comfort for the; delusional, psychologically affected, or downright liars. It's their gig and I will question them at times on the basis of what they impart (as fact) is irresponsible to the health of others that are more trusting folk- a stance that is no different to my behaviour in everyday life. Showing responsibility for your influence on others is of utmost importance to me and I certainly welcome people that point out any adverse behaviour that I may cause.

To the Squeakers, yes I understand yours and others disappointment- mis representation may be a sad fact of life but neither must we approach information or people negatively (I like to live positively in all aspects of life) but give them intitial respect unless they prove otherwise- then broadside them with rational thought!

Yes to believing your own delusions to justify your delusions.  I was told I am hopeless, I dropped my coffee, I thought I was hopeless, therefore I am... hence my previous "I like to live positively in all aspects of my life"

Regards to all, Driver,  Sir to His loving WildChild.


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RE: Yeah right - 3/29/2007 11:30:41 PM   
scottjk


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Status: offline 		Perhaps it's one more step in the safe sex concept? Safe BDSM?

I mean, why risk an embolism from a mild bruise, or a coronary attack from a well earned orgasm, or, god forbid, forming an actual physical relationship?

Sorry, guys, I just had to throw in some sarcasm.



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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 3:43:54 AM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		Driver---I am in no way disappointed.   This was just a general  observation based on things I have seen and was simply curious to find a place of understanding in how the human mind works.  

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 3:52:28 AM   
madcatlady


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Status: offline 		I take a dim view of online players and i make no secret of it, though my feelings on the subject have mellowed with time. 5 years ago i would 'attack' online players wiith rants etc now im more....yeah ok get on with it but not near me *shrug* and i do feel those who partake in the online relationships as a pre cursor to a 'real' relationship as valid........many friends have relocated to be with their Master/submissives etc and you dont do that without a pretty intense online relationship beforehand.
When i used the msn chat rooms (oh so long ago) there was a girl who had the perfect 'scam' going , ive spent quite a few hours wondering on her motives and i havent come up with any ideas. A brief history on this person (as told by her).......abused as a child, used a bdsm 'toy' by parents (both) and passed between friends of parents. Kept in a pit (she couldnt watch silence of the lambs as it brought back too many memories....yeah right!), then 'rescued' by a family friend....who in turn became her master (yeah right) and who provides her with her luxury flat and ample spending money. He was in the twin towers, found after a week, in a coma and flown back where she waited patiently by his bedside for him to wake up......which of course he did, with seemingly no ill effects (yeah right).
I left this saga when she was at the grand age of 22. Now writing it down like that most people's bullshit meter would be off the chart. But she never just blurted this stuff out it was done with finesse.
Why the perfect scam................she had so many people on her side...........the 'mother' subs who want to help her, the 'caring' doms who want to help her (one of whom was so taken in by her 'i want u but i cant ever leave my Master, he's done so much for me'......actually left his wife and completely messed up his life).
Her motivations? christ knows, she's probably a very sad and lonely girl.......but that does not excuse it.
I admit i was also taken in by her for a short time and thats why online does not count to me..........and why i dont believe what anyone says until i meet them for real..........and yes......i am jaded lol

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 4:07:10 AM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		    Madcatlady, I've heard these types of stories.   It's amazing how many stories I heard of online Doms/subs who died in the towers.   That horrific event seemed to be an 'out' for many.    While I can accept the story tellers, using 9-11 as a back drop to a fantasy really sucks.    Like most, I can not think of that day without fear and tears.   
       

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 4:32:18 AM   
Dnomyar


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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 5:16:03 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Squeakers


     So here is the question---I am sure everyone has read something and went "Yeah right."   For the sake of argument lets say that what is read is really a "Yeah right."     Are those 'yeah rights', lies, an act of 'fitting in' or just unintentional?    Thoughts?


Terrible pressure to conform and hence win some kind of perceived acceptance and respect. 

But remember there are probably more people who tell lies about their real life D/s relationships.   Exaggerating to impress others is  common.

It takes a great deal of courage to tell strangers the truth about your own D/s: the good, the bad and the ugly.  I try to base my advice on my practical experience and only on my practical experience.  I try very hard not to regurgitate ideas or opinions I read somewhere else and pass them off as mine.  But speaking your own truth makes you vulnerable to hurtful criticism.  No wonder people hide behind make-believe instead 

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 5:30:08 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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Status: offline 		As for whopping liars

Some of these big fibbers come to Munches and try to pull the same scams in real life!!
 
Most hilarious one I heard was the young woman who claimed that - unknown to her - she met an Old Guard master (what else?).  He could magically see she really had the heart of a slave and so had her kidnapped and sold into genuine slavery in the Middle East.  She was auctioned naked, passed harem to harem...etc etc you get the picture. (Sounds suspiciously like Anne Rice's Beauty series) 

But she was living in small town America and working at a supermarket.  Wouldn't her family have noticed her disappearance?  And how did she (and her slave heart) get home again?  The story was full of holes and yet she believed herself.  Totally deluded.

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 9:37:56 AM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		She was really in the mid east of the united states. They ran out of harems to pass her to so they tossed her into the street. She took the greyhound bus home. Her family paid for the kidnapping to get her out of the house.

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 9:44:11 AM   
MagiksSlave


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OMG I cant stop giggling this one is just too funny!!!
and kinda remings me of Master shh dont tell him I said that!!

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RE: Yeah right - 3/30/2007 9:54:25 AM   
sublizzie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

She was really in the mid east of the united states. They ran out of harems to pass her to so they tossed her into the street. She took the greyhound bus home. Her family paid for the kidnapping to get her out of the house.


LOL. As one with adult UMs I can remember times when I considered doing something like that with them!

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