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Sinergy -> RE: Why Iran is a very very bad idea (4/3/2007 6:10:35 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Sternhand4
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It our culture ( this site alone would be justification enough for them to bomb you ) They do not want to co exist, they want you and me to convert to Islam or die.
Where exactly are you getting your information from?
Are you denying that Radical islam wants to erase the west? I use their own writings as sources..
Pretty much what a lot of radical Christians want to do as well. I use their own writings as sources...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/9163/error
Same sport, different letterman jacket.
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The vast majority of followers of Islam dont live anywhere near the middle east. Additionally, the vast majority of followers of Islam are not hate-filled, anti-West fundamentalists. Ever stop to think that there might be a reason the people in the Middle East hate the West which has nothing to do with our culture?
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Oh you must be referring to "moderate muslims"
It is vital to grasp that traditional and even mainstream Islamic teaching accepts and promotes violence. Shariah, for example, allows apostates to be killed, permits beating women to discipline them, seeks to subjugate non-Muslims to Islam as dhimmis and justifies declaring war to do so. It exhorts good Muslims to exterminate the Jews before the "end of days." The near deafening silence of the Muslim majority against these barbaric practices is evidence enough that there is something fundamentally wrong.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009890
I am not.
The link you gave discussed various beliefs associated with fundamentalist muslims in the Middle East.
I was pointing out that the vast majority of muslims live in Indonesia. To make a comment that "most" muslims ascribe to the beliefs in the link you provided is rather ignorant.
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I see your a we must have started this first guy, So in your opinion what would stop the islamic terrorists then? I mean short of the defeat the US now strategy the Libs want to employ.
I didnt start anything, but thanks for making that point.
We are already defeated in Iraq. The Republicans are too dumb to see that occupying a hostile country requires a lot more weapons and money and lives and effort than the US has available. The British learned this in India. The Soviets learned this in Afghanistan. A lot of us learned this lesson in Vietnam. Monkeyboy hired almost everybody in his administration from a bunch of craven weasels who avoided ever serving in that war.
I have a lot of ideas of how to start fixing the problem. However, there is a historical animosity dating back thousands of years for both Christian / Muslim animosity, as well as Shi'a / Sunni Muslim animosity, that would have to be overcome.
Then you have the 60 or some odd years of animosity which invading Palestine and resettling western Jews, and all the associated B.S. that came about from that which has to be overcome.
Gandhi had a lot of success in utilizing principles of non-violence to overcome historical animosities between the British, Hindus, and Muslims. The easiest thing in the world to do is to dehumanize and slaughter your enemies. It is a lot more difficult to go up to somebody you hate and fear and find common ground so you can both live in peace.
From what I have read of your postings, you seem to think the only solution to the problems in the Middle East is similar to what Nazi Germany's called the (Endlosung) Final Solution.
I am a little puzzled why you arent over there doing the job you promote yourself. It must feel very safe and easy for you to bounce up and down on your barcalounger, with Faux News on the Boob Tube, and rant about the need for more killing and violence as long as other people are doing it for you.
Sinergy
edited to add some quotes
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