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Real0ne -> Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 7:10:54 PM)
April 3, 2007 (EIRNS)—Andrei Denisov, first deputy foreign minister of the Russian Federation, confirmed today that the Russian leadership is taking deadly seriously the live threat of a U.S.-led attack on Iran. http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2007/070403russ_warn_iran.html

cyberdude611 -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 7:17:49 PM)
Not quite sure what Russia's motive is here, but the US isnt going to hit Iran tomorrow (4/6).

Termyn8or -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 10:24:03 PM)
Told ya so, told ya so. And Russia has no love for Israel either. I won't go into the reasons. China is getting along fairly well with Russia these days, and has their own needs. The populae of Arab countries no doubt have internet access, and are finding others in their sect. Their movements need to be watched if "the plan" is to succeed. When we get stretched so thin we will have problems propping up those "friendly" governments. What is next ? I say let it come. I pity those with children, because these stupid assholes are going to do it anyway, their attitude is that nobody tells them, they tell everybody. There is no compromise, you will comply. Everybody will comply. And we will attack any place we damn well please, so Russia can go fuck themselves. Let me tell any of you hubris filled Americans on this board (I doubt there are many) one thing. We do not live on an island, and we are not the boss of the world. I hope I didn't wreck your day, but if we don't put these dogs of war on a leash soon, the Shit Is Going To Hit The Fan. Get it, got it ? Good. T

lockedaway -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 10:55:20 PM)
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn....yeah....like we were fighting the war on terror, or had invaded Afghanistan, when 9/11 happened OR when the Trade Centers were bombed in '93, OR when the U.S.S. Cole was attacked OR the Kenya bombing. Right. "Got to put these dogs of war on a leash or the shit is really going to hit the fan!" ya. Sometimes you want to shake people and scream at them to WAKE THE FUCK UP! But you can't...people stare. I know...let's have a show of hands. The piece of shit who is the President of Iran, who was an original hostage taker in 1978, is he going to stop hating America if we change our policy? Or is he more likely to just make more demands since he would then know he could push us around? Raise your hand. Who thinks Ama-whaddever-the-fuck-his-name-is will stop hating America if we change our policy??? If we cease to back Israel, how long will Israel survive? Any estimates? I give them less than 10 years. Many of you people think that ending our dependence on foreign oil is going to end terrorism and you couldn't be more WRONG. If we didn't import a drop of oil from terrorist states, terrorism would still be planned (and at times perpetrated), against the U.S. If Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, like the President of Iran says he would like to do, AND we don't import a drop of oil from terrorist countries, terrorism will still be attempted against the U.S. You have to be COMPLETELY obtuse to fail to understand that. We have ONE option. We have to fight terrorists and the countries that harbor them. We have to give incentives to countries, which would probably take the shape of favored nation status in terms of trade while we import less of their oil, to turn on the terrorists they harbor and cooperate with the U.S. We have to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by exploring alternative fuels and by drilling for more oil and building refineries. We have to reduce or dependence on foreign oil NOT because it will make the terrorists go away but in order to sustain our country in the event of a global, and perhaps apocolyptical, conflict.

cyberdude611 -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 11:03:33 PM)
It will take 30 years (at least) to get off foreign dependance of oil. So anyone pushing for that idea is being unrealistic. The US is not able to change its oil policy tomorrow or in the next election. It will take more than a generation before that can happen. So someone better think up a different solution. And changing the policy wont make any difference anyway. For some reason people think if the west packs up and leaves the mid-east and Israel completely disbands their military that the terrorists all around the world will put down their arms and embrace peace. That's beyond fantasy...it's idiotic. Every credible expert on terrorism agrees that the terrorists will not put down their arms with policies of appeasement, it will only enbolden them.

juliaoceania -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/5/2007 11:16:55 PM)
quote: Many of you people think that ending our dependence on foreign oil is going to end terrorism and you couldn't be more WRONG. If we didn't import a drop of oil from terrorist states, terrorism would still be planned (and at times perpetrated), against the U.S. If Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, like the President of Iran says he would like to do, AND we don't import a drop of oil from terrorist countries, terrorism will still be attempted against the U.S. You have to be COMPLETELY obtuse to fail to understand that Please cite some references for this opinion. I would be very curious as to the sources that contributed to this opinion. quote: We have ONE option. We have to fight terrorists and the countries that harbor them. Since we harbor terrorists, we should start with ourselves.

popeye1250 -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/6/2007 12:10:45 AM)
Not very smart of them to try anything now. With our ground forces stretched so much whats that leave? (SSBNs)

Real0ne -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/6/2007 2:51:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 It will take 30 years (at least) to get off foreign dependance of oil. So anyone pushing for that idea is being unrealistic. The US is not able to change its oil policy tomorrow or in the next election. It will take more than a generation before that can happen. So someone better think up a different solution. And changing the policy wont make any difference anyway. For some reason people think if the west packs up and leaves the mid-east and Israel completely disbands their military that the terrorists all around the world will put down their arms and embrace peace. That's beyond fantasy...it's idiotic. Every credible expert on terrorism agrees that the terrorists will not put down their arms with policies of appeasement, it will only enbolden them. cyber did you miss my post about nick rockefeller? He seems to think terrorism a funny little hoax. remember the old traffic "catch all"? If yo uhad nothing specific to arrest someone fo arrest them for "driving to fast for conditions", a meaningless put any defitnition you want on it charge! Thats what terrorism is.

Termyn8or -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/7/2007 4:44:27 PM)
Locked, this almost warrants a mail, but I want your answer out here, out in the open. I want it out here for the whole world to see. What if, back in 1948 they came to your Grandparent's house and said "You have to leave". Then they stick you in the worst place in the country. In the US it would be Louisiana because of the bugs. The people are OK, but the bugs will kill most. And then they don't give youi screens. Later they build a wall running straight through yor property and you can only pass certain times of the day. And you have to buy water from what used to be your own well not so long ago. Have you ever even seen a map of the "security fence" Israel put up ? Now mind you that in the beginning they took this land BY FORCE, force that was expeditied by the Bible. That Palestine did not belong to the Palestinians, but the Jews. Actually the Jews don't even really run it, they are nowhere as ruthless as those who do. If this happened to you, you would teach your children to fight back, but to try to stay alive. When they do it they are fanatics. For God's sake, they have even shed self preservation using suicide bombers. Do you think people are that stupid, NO, they are destitute, they HATE, they have been taught to HATE, and FOR GOOD REASON. If an oppressor came to your country and raided your roost just how much fucking forgiveness are you going to have for the occupiers ? I think the problem here is that alot of people do not know about the creation of Israel and it's subsequent actions. Alot of people have not even heard about the USS Liberty being attacked in 1967. Most people who are good people tend to think others are like themselves. They cast a blind eye to the actions of some, while scrutinizing those of others. That breeds the devisivness that keeps the bad people running the world. Nuff for now. T

Real0ne -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/8/2007 5:17:42 AM)
quote: There is no compromise, you will comply. Everybody will comply. And we will attack any place we damn well please, so Russia can go fuck themselves. You know you said something here that just struck home. The us is the borg! Resistance is futile! LOL Ever see star trek? makes me wonder if that was not their point now that i am thinking about it

Termyn8or -> RE: Russian Government Warns About Iran Attack Threat (4/8/2007 4:00:31 PM)
You ain't done Real, you might think you are. Why would the seat of governments of a planetary union, on a galactic scale, be housed on Earth ? Of course that was after Rodenberry died, he was alot better at trying to explain things. Notice that it took decades before we knew why all the aliens spoke English. The whole thing was homocentric, again thinking that we are the center of the universe. Actually Star Trek was good in teaching people better, this is happening there, can't go there there is a war and so forth. But the seat of the galactic government, not only is on Earth, but it seemed to be the US ! That is called hubris, and it is the eighth deadly sin, and it is the most deadly.Cal it unefinable if you want, but I can define it just fine : what is happening now. T

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