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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/6/2007 9:27:43 PM   
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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/6/2007 11:34:06 PM   
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How about bush and Chaney doing what old Kingfisher long did and swap seats on the ticket perfectly legal



Shotgun was asked last year if he would run for President in 2008.

His response deserves to be stated.

"Not just no, but HELL NO.  There are rivers I need to fish and places I need to hike and after this, I am done with politics."

Thanks Shotgun, glad you had 8 years to protect your millions of dollars in stock options.

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/6/2007 11:41:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a trick question, right?

If Cheny et al, now feel guilty (doubtful) or somewhat shamed (oh well) by the Iraq war debacle, they are simply too late. Like the public would ever be stupid enough to re-elect Bush?

Not even for gazillions of campaign dollars spent, can I even imagine this ever happening, and them being re-elected, at this point.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 4/6/2007 11:46:41 PM >

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/6/2007 11:45:35 PM   
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This is a trick question, right?

If Cheny et al, now feel guilty (doubtful) or somewhat shamed (oh well) by the Iraq war debacle, he is simply too late. Like the public would ever be stupid enough to re-elect Bush? Not for gazillions of campaign dollars can I even imagine this ever happening, at this point.

- Susan


I posted on another thread that I am waiting for AnencephalyBoy to suspend elections until the War On Terror ends.

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/6/2007 11:47:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ha! I will be dead by then, and so will you, probably. I don't feel sorry for that administration anymore. I used to think they were all just incompetent. But I now am convinced that Cheney is just a sociopath. I can't wait for November, 2008. 

- Susan

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 12:01:21 AM   
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Ha! I will be dead by then, and so will you, probably. I don't feel sorry for that administration anymore. I used to think they were all just incompetent. But I now am convinced that Cheney is just a sociopath. I can't wait for November, 2008. 

- Susan


The man who oversaw bombing Vietnam into a lifeless moonscape (Henry Kissinger) once referred to Shotgun and Rumsfeld as "heartless."

I imagine he would know.

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 12:04:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Rumsfled also has a very adolescent mind-set. I know he has a Ph.D., but IMO, he has pretty bad social skills and is expert at obfuscation-as-explanation (just what this country needs, he).

Cheney doesn't seem to feel like bothering with needing a valid, or well-researched, or even a popular reason to do anything. The fact he is V.P seems to be enough, in his own mind anyway, to just go ahead and ignore reality. The scary part (to me) is, he really doesn't seem to care, as long as his ego remains intact.

I read an interview with Cheny in TIME magazine last year, that really scared me. Many, many true international relations experts at the time, were predicting the war would amost never end, and that our goal here in the U.S. should be helping to re-build Iraq, and then setting a date to slowly start withdrawing troops, yet in the interview, Cheney was adamantly saying the U.S. was definitely going to "win" the "war on terror" (still).

On a political level, I can somewhat understand the phenomena in operation here, but - I got the impression he really believed it, and really, truly didn't care (at all) what anyone (anyone) else thought about it, regardless of their expertise, or their track record, as far as accurately predicting future happenings in similar circumstances.

He simply appears (to me) not to care what anyone else thinks, or what they may want to do instead; and the fact someone else may have a different opinion (or even an entire nation, almost) simply doesn't seem to "register", with him. Even more so than with Bush, IMO.

- Susan

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 9:29:34 AM   
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http://www.newyourketimes.com/content/article76649.html

and here is what the link for the New York Times is for their home page
http://www.nytimes.com/

All articles are referenced nytimes.com, but this one isn't. I searched through the NY Times and could not find it... very puzzling to me. Perhaps someone can clear up the mystery?


I quoted this post to make sure that it gets seen and someone can answer my above questions about this link, it might not be real


oops. looks like i forgot the link, i dont know, it was referenced as the nytimes?  i looked on there too and was unable to find it, but then that is not to surprising as much of the stuff put out here from the newpapers is from caches because they stick it up for a few days then take it down or move to archives unknown.

fdr did it!  you know the last one who stole all our gold?   Why woudlnt gw do it, the one who stole all our liberties?  frankly i think it is very plausible and sounds about his speed if you consider that courtrooms have been busier with gw suits in the last 8 years than they have been with any 10 presidents combined.

As far as real is concerned i dont think that is the issue, i think the issue is that there is legal loophole if you will in the matter and if not him someone else mayb in facxt try or do just that.


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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 9:31:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

This is a trick question, right?

If Cheny et al, now feel guilty (doubtful) or somewhat shamed (oh well) by the Iraq war debacle, he is simply too late. Like the public would ever be stupid enough to re-elect Bush? Not for gazillions of campaign dollars can I even imagine this ever happening, at this point.

- Susan


I posted on another thread that I am waiting for AnencephalyBoy to suspend elections until the War On Terror ends.

Sinergy


BANG!

Dead on! imo



New name for monkey?


< Message edited by Real0ne -- 4/7/2007 9:32:09 AM >

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 9:31:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		"He simply appears (to me) not to care what anyone else thinks, or what they may want to do instead; and the fact someone else may have a different opinion (or even an entire nation, almost) simply doesn't seem to "register", with him. Even more so than with Bush, IMO."

The word is "Sociopath".



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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 9:35:38 AM   
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"He simply appears (to me) not to care what anyone else thinks, or what they may want to do instead; and the fact someone else may have a different opinion (or even an entire nation, almost) simply doesn't seem to "register", with him. Even more so than with Bush, IMO."

The word is "Sociopath".




well he considers himself a visionary, but then most people of nearly unbridled power do i think, and of course its all constructed to build that wealth pyramid higher.  at our expense as a nation and the world at large.


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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 9:38:01 AM   
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well he considers himself a visionary,


I've met stinky hippies wacked out on Magic Mushrooms in parking lots who feel the same way about themselves.



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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 10:11:02 AM   
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well he considers himself a visionary,


I've met stinky hippies wacked out on Magic Mushrooms in parking lots who feel the same way about themselves.




i suppose if it had not been tried before i might have been more sceptical about the whole thing, but since it was tried before and by another president who took major steps to ruin this country, i ran with it.  its hard to say which one was the worse, lincoln for taking the iron chains off of the blacks and putting bond chains on all of us, wilson pushing through the irs and fed reserve, fdr stealing all our gold, nixon taking us off the gold standard completely, and bush destroying the constitution.  Who is the baddiest of bad?   there were plenty inbetween but none as devastaing to a rep[ublic as thoise aforementioned imo


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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 11:58:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

This is a trick question, right?

If Cheny et al, now feel guilty (doubtful) or somewhat shamed (oh well) by the Iraq war debacle, he is simply too late. Like the public would ever be stupid enough to re-elect Bush? Not for gazillions of campaign dollars can I even imagine this ever happening, at this point.

- Susan


I posted on another thread that I am waiting for AnencephalyBoy to suspend elections until the War On Terror ends.

Sinergy


BANG!

Dead on! imo



New name for monkey?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly

A person born with not much more than a brain stem.  The body breathes, but there is nobody (and will never be anybody ) home.

Sinergy

edited to make the sentence make sense.

< Message edited by Sinergy -- 4/7/2007 12:07:27 PM >

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 11:59:58 AM   
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"He simply appears (to me) not to care what anyone else thinks, or what they may want to do instead; and the fact someone else may have a different opinion (or even an entire nation, almost) simply doesn't seem to "register", with him. Even more so than with Bush, IMO."

The word is "Sociopath".




I would add "narcissist"

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 12:02:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

This is a trick question, right?

If Cheny et al, now feel guilty (doubtful) or somewhat shamed (oh well) by the Iraq war debacle, he is simply too late. Like the public would ever be stupid enough to re-elect Bush? Not for gazillions of campaign dollars can I even imagine this ever happening, at this point.

- Susan


I posted on another thread that I am waiting for AnencephalyBoy to suspend elections until the War On Terror ends.

Sinergy


BANG!

Dead on! imo



New name for monkey?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly

A person born with not much more than a brain stem.  The body breathes, but there is (and will never be) anybody home.

Sinergy


Thanks! now i have to clean the coffe out of my keyboard LMFAO!!!!


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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 1:46:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		People say this same thing with every president near the end of his 2nd term. They did it with Reagan and they did it with Clinton. For some reason it is a big thing with conspiracy theorists. They always think the 2nd term president is going to challange the law and run again. But it never happends.

What may happen though is someone on the GOP side may pick Jeb Bush as a running mate.

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 2:02:49 PM   
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People say this same thing with every president near the end of his 2nd term. They did it with Reagan and they did it with Clinton. For some reason it is a big thing with conspiracy theorists. They always think the 2nd term president is going to challange the law and run again. But it never happends.


I wonder if they did it with FDR?

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 2:15:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		FDR, did not do it.  The constitution was amended after FDR so that presidents could only serve 2 terms.

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RE: Should Bush Run For 3rd Term? - 4/7/2007 2:33:01 PM   
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FDR, did not do it.  The constitution was amended after FDR so that presidents could only serve 2 terms.


Correcto. He also happens to be the only president who served over 8 years.

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