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SlaveBlutarsky -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/7/2007 9:24:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

PS I am not rich either.  I had to sell my house to pay the legal fees and will only get a little over half of them back from him (if his cheque doesn't bounce!)

Was it worth it?

Financially - no.  OP, move on.  Thank your Higher Power you only got cheated out of $1000



I'm going through something similar. Hasn't gotten to court yet, but it's just terribly sad that someone you think is looking for your best interests isn't.

The money isn't the real important thing, I'll always be able to make more money, it's the betrayal and loss of faith that's the real difficult thing to deal with for  me.

I think that this is one of the reasons I have such a problem with tribute and will be something that affects me in my future relationships. While I try not to let it affect me and my ability to trust, I don't think that's going to be realistic at first. 

In my situation the last person I would ever expect to cheat and steal from me did, so at this point I think I'm still overly sensitive to the aspect of money in the Domme/sub relationship. I won't  not treat my Domme like a queen, but there will be certainly  be differences with the way I handle financial matters in whatever relationship I'm in.

To the OP,  $1000 is nothing, just be thankful you learned this lesson on the cheap.




Lashra -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/7/2007 10:55:59 AM)

I do not loan money out unless someone is in dire straights. If they are I will loan it to them but they have to sign a promissory note stating when the payment is due in full. I tell them up front (Ive only done this once) you pay me back or I will be seeing you in court. The person paid promptly. I just am not a trustful person when it comes to money, people tend to let greed cloud their better judgement.

~Lashra




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/7/2007 12:26:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BeatMeDaily

I'm sorry, but nothing pisses me off more than these "Mistress's" who are unemployed,
their houses/apartments a wreck all the time, bills unpaid, whining about money 24/7,
and they spend 12+ hours a day on collarme trolling for subs ...

Get off your ass and get a JOB, you want respect, earn it, your title alone does not do it.



Bitter here?  Wow! 
 
And nothing  pisses Me off more than subs who are looking for a free ride under the guise of being submisive.  Offering one's body for abuse that sexually excites you, and offering to live 24/7 with a Domina by saying you will be there to remove her shoes after hard day of work does not mean one is a submissive.
 
Not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot?
 
That said, no, the example I just gave doesn't piss Me off.  It is a human thing, not a Dominant thing.  And I have a personal responsibility to see through it and move on, or not see through it and take My lumps if something happens.  If that means suing or sucking it up and learning a valuable lesson...whatever.
We all have disappointments, some more expensive than others, and I did not see you, BeatMeDaily, reference the story of MsCfromMelbourne.  There was a Domina taken advantage of by a submissive. 
 As I read it, in the OP's situation, this lady was not even the OP's Dominant when this occurred.
To the OP...I am truly sorry this happened to you.  I would take her to court, and hopefully you have a signed agreement to pay you back.  If so, at the very least you can get a judgement that will follow her around for many years. And if she gets a job, you can have her wages garnished. 
It is not a Double standard.  It is a human standard.  People will often figure out a way to prey on other peoples weaknesses.  In this case it was a previous relationship that had a Dominant and submissive flavor.  But it does not represent the norm in the lifestyle.




SusanofO -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/7/2007 7:19:20 PM)

I have been thinking about this thread, and I think it was profound that cloudboy mentioned how important it is to be able to realize that you took the high road in a circumstance. I agree this is true, no matter what another person may have have tried to make it seem like you did (that you did not) or whether you have been "taken" by a person desperate, mean, crazy or simply oblivious enough to take full and blatant advantage of someone who has a more kind and giving heart.

I really liked the mention that walking away with one's honor is most valuable. In my mind, it is going to beat whatever false "image" this type of wrong-doer may have created at the expense of another, or via lies, to themselves, or to their acquaintances and friends.

Social courage is sometimes IMO the toughest nut for other people to display that exists. Stand tall, no matter what slings and arrows this situation may throw your way, for the OP has already acted with honor, as have others on this thread in similar circumstances.

There is no need to defend yourself - if one is courageous, and you certainly seem to be, this situation will never be able to melt into your soul's core.

IMO, having a well-functioning, giving heart will always, always, beat out having brains, looks or wealth. If a person has no ability to give, but only to "take" from other people, their words can ring hollow, and they become empty, and spitirutally dead. 

Perceptive types take notice, and eventually will see and maybe state aloud, that the "Emperor (or Empress) wears no clothes" - no matter how stylishly the Empress or Emperor is dressed, or how faultless their carefully-honed image once seemed to appear.

To see someone like this fall off their own self-created throne, can for some, be very satisfying, if and when it happens, especially when they have treated others so wrongfully. But, IMO these wrong-doers can sometimes be very slow learners, and we are all on our own path. Theirs is a future unknown.

I agree very much with what was stated, that being generous, forgiving, and open-hearted, is taking the high road. You've already chosen this. Nobody can buy your soul. It is intact. The person who wronged you cannot do that to you anymore, ever again.

I found the following in my purse. I find reading it on occasion to be a comfort, and thought you might enjoy it. I am sure many have seen it. To me, its words are truly timeless in their application. 

DESIDERATA

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements, as well as your plans.

Keep interested in your own career, however humble - it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery.

*But - let this not blind you to what virtue there is - many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere, life is full of heroism.
 
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it as perennial as the grass.

*Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
 
*But - do not stress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
 
*You are a child of the universe!
No less than the trees and the stars, you have a right to be here.
 
And whether or not, it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
 
Therefore, be at peace with God, whatever you perceive him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace with your soul.

*With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
 
Be careful. 
 *Strive to be happy.
 
Found in St. Paul's Church, Baltimore, in 1692 

Happy Easter, to the OP, rest easy (and so to everyone who reads this thread).   

- Susan
 
 




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/9/2007 10:07:09 AM)

I appreciate all the responses I received here.  Every one that posted made valid points, and they all made me think a little.  I agree that I haven't gone around whining to anyone about what happened.  I always make a point not to bad mouth people; regardless of what they have done to me or how I feel about them.  I have never seen the point in immersing myself in gossip and drama just to feel better.  I'm sure she has done this.  I talked to her shortly after this post.  She swears up and down she is going to repay me.  I am not crossing my fingers on this, and I am not going to cause myself anymore grief worrying about it.  I do believe that people pay for their misdeeds later on.  I just have to find comfort that what goes around comes around.  I certainly am not going to give up my own values because of one bad incident.  Again, thank you all for your wonderful responses.




LadyHugs -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/9/2007 12:47:15 PM)

Dear slaveboyforyou, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
As a Female Dominant--I want to apologize as one, for a female who seemingly posed as a Female Dominant and was more of a 'player' or 'gamer' then a upstanding example what D/s could be in a positive manner.
 
Unfortunately, I've seen so many people in different roles and different genders who have stolen as much as they could get away with within the scene and outside of it.  It has been known and tolerated by the community it seems, to reward those who lie, cheat and steal and punish the victim.  We see it daily everywhere we look really.
 
I would recommend next time, anybody seeing financial help to go see a financial institution or seek help in their blood family relations. 
 
Like so many others--I have been a victim of my own compassionate and giving heart as to be unable to give anymore.  I won't put how much I lost up for public giggles and grins however, if I still had the funds there would be a gated Leather Community and those within could live in the lap of luxury.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

 
 




LaTigresse -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/9/2007 1:06:12 PM)

Unfortunately I have just learned to not loan money. It causes way too many problems. If I have it to give then I give it, and never expect it to be returned. If I cannot afford to give it away then I explain that I simply cannot help them.




BeachMystress -> RE: Does D/s stand for double standard? (4/10/2007 12:21:30 AM)

I do not feel this had anything to do with D/s other than the fact that you both are (or were) part of the lifestyle. She is a scam artist. From the fact that she knew how to fake a check, I'd say she's been one for quite a while. Do not play the court of public opinion with her. She has way more experience and knows how to manipulate people and their opinion of others. Look how she played you. It is unlikely she has any plans to repay you. I personally feel it is time to involve the police. You also may want to visit The National Check Fraud Center page at http://www.ckfraud.org/ .  Good luck!




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