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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 4/10/2007 8:28:16 PM   
Whiterabbit0117


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We coordinate a group that started as a splinter from another group and now eight years later averages 120+ at our monthly social. 

There is no one way, but here is what worked for us.

The "other" group.You aren't starting your group to spite the other group.  At least initially benign neglect is a good policy.   Spending time and energy complaining about the other group is completely non productive.   After time the wounds or people that caused the rift may probably heal or pass.  The core is the beliefs and practices of your group.  Don't make the same mistakes. 

The big rule of success is check the ego.  Are you forming the group because the community needs it or because you want to run a group?    If it is the later expect the group to be dead within six months.

We run on the benevolent dictatorship.  We have made one successful passing of the torch.  We have minimal politics.  If you don't like something talk to one of the leaders.  If you don't like the way we run things, either put up with it or leave.  On the other hand we are open to suggestions.  We find a great majority are happy to come to a well run event and have fun.  If you minimize the opportunities for those with other intentions to stir it up the less likely of a fissure.

KISS - This is critical  In any group there is a small cadre that does the work.  If you try to make it too big or too complicated you will exceed their ability to manage the group, burn them out or both.  This approach also helps to hold down expenses and reduce those stresses.

Look for help.  People are willing to help.  Watch for them, get them involved.  Even if they aren't doing it the way you would do it, if the job is getting done let them go.  The control freaks where it has to be done MY way will kill the group FAST.  At the same time if the mores of the group are being violated then timely intervention is critical


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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 4/10/2007 8:45:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Two words: benevolant dictatorship. This gets things done in a timely manner. Be sure to actively practice the benevolant part. Listen to what the members have to say, incoporate what they want if possibly...but ultimately, have just one, two or at most three, people make the decisions. The downside to this is that the group gets built around this structure/person.

Don't financially support the group out of your own pocket (if your are the leaders). Dues and fees for events are necessary. Pot luck works best for food.

While Bilaws may not be necessary, written rules about what is and isn't acceptable behavior are important. Put it in writing somewhere that prostitution, for example, isn't tolerated within the group.

If you want Bylaws, steal a blueprint from another group, then fix them to reflect your group. No need to reinvent the wheel.

The group I helped found even has a written policy about how Dominants should treat other Dominants. The group is a support group for Fem Doms. We felt it was important to have this document in order to really solidify that we're a Sisterhood.

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(I'm replying to everyone's posts one at a time, by the way)
 
For now, I don't really want there to be a leadership group... since it is going to be more informal. As it grows, we shall see.
 
I definitely don't plan on supporting the group financially in any way. I don't have the means to do that.
 
The group rules are what I'm having a problem writing. I'm not that great at wording some of them
 
Thank you for your advice.

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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 4/10/2007 8:54:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

If this is an informal group that is to remain an informal gathering of like-minded individuals then there really isn't a need for a lengthy list of rules & such

A munch is simply a gathering for people to come together in a very vanilla atmosphere. If you plan to hold these in public locations then you can always meet as the "computer group". Ive seen these held in banquet rooms at buffet style eateries & even in food courts at a mall. The location really depends on how much privacy you feel you require & most restaurants have small rooms or sections available for private parties.

As to the drama or possible conflicts between two groups. You might as well get use to the idea that there will always be drama. You can have 20 groups & still have drama. One group can say that another group is pulling THEIR members away... one group can say that they weren't welcome at another group thus creating a rumor of elitism. Drama doesn't get better when people branch off.... in fact, it gets much worse. (I've been faced with this whole scenario where fences were put up & everyone in the community had to pick a side & if you didn't, others placed you in one... it wasn't pretty)

If it isn't drama then it is grievances that the group is stagnant & too predictable or there aren't enough people my age attending, or as a recent post about munches mentioned-- there isn't a diversity of races-- the list could go on.

I have a question: are the issues with the first group so bad that they can't be resolved? The best way to resolve conflict is to address it. Drama is like a wildfire, you have to put out the flames before they get out of control. If you start spreading out the area where the flames were then all you end up doing is creating new wildfires that were stoked by the flames of the original fire.


We attempted to resolve the problems and were dismissed by board members, or the conversation went in circles. I don't have any problems with members of the group, or the idea of the group, I just highly disagree with the way the group is run and feel that I, as well as a few other friends, would be more comfortable with a more informal group.
 
As for the rules, we all agreed that we wanted a simple document for what was appropriate and what was not, one of the examples I think I gave was not treating a submissive like they are your submissive unless they are or it has been agreed upon. We want things like that set for when we do start bringing in new members.

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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 5/16/2007 11:08:01 PM   
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Two words: Constructive Criticism.

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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 5/17/2007 3:08:53 PM   
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omg don't do it.

Running two different groups killed BDSM community for me in California.  Seriously.  I no longer belong to any community because it burnt me out so bad.

I know you're trying to get away from drama, and you might for awhile, but I can almost guarentee it'll pop up in your new group, too.  It always does. 

I find that sad.  But it's my experience.  /shrug


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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 5/17/2007 3:17:42 PM   
katzschen


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ORIGINAL: ScreamerGirl

omg don't do it.

Running two different groups killed BDSM community for me in California.  Seriously.  I no longer belong to any community because it burnt me out so bad.

I know you're trying to get away from drama, and you might for awhile, but I can almost guarentee it'll pop up in your new group, too.  It always does. 

I find that sad.  But it's my experience.  /shrug



There are already two local groups. And there appeared to be drama between the two of them as well, but it seemed to be with the same people causing the individual drama. But so far, our group has gone really, really well. We had seven people at our first munch, which is a lot in this area, and we have 10 members in the group. People seem a lot more relaxed with our group, and happier. It's great! Our second munch has been put on hold because my fiance and I just went through a move and two of the other members are in the process of purchasing a house, but I have invited all the members to my housewarming. We'll probably be having another munch soon, too. I'm so happy with how things are going!
 
Hey, if anyone's in Greenville or close enough to do so, you're more than welcome to join us! =^-^=

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RE: Advice on a BDSM group - 5/17/2007 4:08:34 PM   
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i belong to a small local group (about 45 members). it is a benevolent dictatorship. the members are asked for their input about everything the group does, from whether or not we meet at a restraunt or have a potluck at a private home, to what kind of activities/information/demonstrations the group is interested in exploring. our group is very diverse, so there are many different interest. but the Mod has the final word. everyone in the group is supportive and helpful. i am fairly new and they have been a god-send to me.

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