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Squeakers -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 10:28:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

So it didn't work for you...find someone that will and that you can top from the bottom.


*blinks*  Excuse me?  Since when is finding someone compatible, topping from the bottom?

I was wondering that same thing.   




misspage -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 10:29:28 AM)

I was also.




aldompdx -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 11:29:01 AM)

The greater your wisdom of surrender within yourself, then resonance with a partner requires greater awareness of their inward control.

You asserted your hard limits. He did not like it. "This is my way, and it works for me." "If you don't do this I will leave."

This is the ultimate result of incompatible limits and boundaries. Look forward to one who has enough inner fulfillment that they need not take from you on day one. If you have a limit against being objectified, then immediate and ongoing "use" of your body with little regard for your heart and soul is certainly incompatible for you.

Ironically for many, dominance is a coping mechanism for lack of inner self control. Masterism is too often a manifestation of narcissism, which is completely invisible to the narcissist.

As Miguel Ruiz discusses in "The Four Agreements," you did your best by honoring and respecting yourself, you lived with your truth and integrity and honor, you acted with confidence from experience rather than trust and faith and assumption -- so, don't take it personally.




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 2:11:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi

Hi to all you masters,

I recently meet a man claiming to be a dom. We chatted, I liked him and his personality. Then came the big moment of him wanting to use me the moment we meet. My instinct and reaction was not to agree to this. As a newbie this is quite a hurdle for me, and as soon as any dom suggest this my barriers go up. I just feel I'm going to be used and discarded.

I didn't agree, and in fact we fell out. He said he wants nothing to do with me. Fair enough, I respect that. What I don't respect are phrases like. "This is my way, and it works for me." "If you don't do this I will leave."


He didn't want to talk anymore about it, he couldn't see why this was an issue for me. In fact he made me feel like it was a one way relationship. No being open and no communicating about issues or problems. I do what he wants or nothing happens.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm.  Sounds awfully like "If you loved me you would do it."  Not to be outdone by "but I just want to make you feel good baby"
BLECH!

[QUOTE]I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong answer here, what I'm seeking is to understand what a real dom is. I spoke to a great friend who said " A dom should be like a boyfriend, but naturally likes to take control because he can make the right decisons, a sub should be like a girlfriend who trust her boyfriend to make the right decisions for her. Find someone whos nice to you, who treats you well, gives you time and if they are a dom hang onto them."
I know this is long winded, I've meet a few 'doms' like I describe above, and I just feel that as a newbie I was close to falling into their trap.

[/QUOTE]
Sounds like good advice. 

I met a Dom on this site and I am pleasantly surprised at what it is turning into.  We talk every day for hours because we live far away from each other and pretty much intend to rip each others clothes off as soon as we set eyes on each other.. But thats what WE decided, not HIM.


My two cents?  If you want to scene, scene.  If you don't want to, don't.  Don't ever let anyone talk you into something you are truly not ready for.   




Quivver -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 3:53:42 PM)

A few more cents to add to all the great replies so far. 
I wont say he is no Dom either.  But then again I'm looking for what Michael is calling a blend.
What I want to add is while looking for that ~blend~ I've ran into a few who demanded play
on the first meet also.  When I did go along even partically nothing came of it.  When I held
my ground if nothing else good friendships were formed.  Do what you need to do for YOU!




lorddividian -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 4:01:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi

Hi to all you masters,

I recently meet a man claiming to be a dom. We chatted, I liked him and his personality. Then came the big moment of him wanting to use me the moment we meet. My instinct and reaction was not to agree to this. As a newbie this is quite a hurdle for me, and as soon as any dom suggest this my barriers go up. I just feel I'm going to be used and discarded.

I didn't agree, and in fact we fell out. He said he wants nothing to do with me. Fair enough, I respect that. What I don't respect are phrases like. "This is my way, and it works for me." "If you don't do this I will leave."

He didn't want to talk anymore about it, he couldn't see why this was an issue for me. In fact he made me feel like it was a one way relationship. No being open and no communicating about issues or problems. I do what he wants or nothing happens.

I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong answer here, what I'm seeking is to understand what a real dom is. I spoke to a great friend who said " A dom should be like a boyfriend, but naturally likes to take control because he can make the right decisons, a sub should be like a girlfriend who trust her boyfriend to make the right decisions for her. Find someone whos nice to you, who treats you well, gives you time and if they are a dom hang onto them."

So what I'm struggling to understand is should a d/s relationship be similar to a vanilla boyfriend/girlfriend. When you look for a dom should they be similar to a vanilla boyfriend, in the way that they treat you?

I know this is long winded, I've meet a few 'doms' like I describe above, and I just feel that as a newbie I was close to falling into their trap.

Any words of wisdom would be gratefully recieved, thanking you for taking the time to help guide a newbie.

Fiestyfi x


Anyone who claims to be a Dominant and tried to top you before ever discussing or negotiating things is an idiot. Its guys like this that give all Dominans a bad name. It was smart of you to tell him no.

The fact that he tried to justify his actions with "This is how i do things or ill leave" shows even more he has no idea what hes doing. Some would say this is Dangerous, It can be, but i like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say, mabe hes just uneducated.




AquaticSub -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 4:01:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

No such thing as a real dom.

A real person with real intentions that you did not agree to and he was unwilling to budge on.

I have been there.

Same intentions but more direct than the ones that will smooze you online instead of working.

So it didn't work for you...find someone that will and that you can top from the bottom.

No biggie.

Ross
©º°¨¨°º©



Wow. A woman doesn't want to be used at the first meeting so she's topping from the bottom.

I guess I better march my lily-white tail to domme school cause I rarely put out on the first date. [:D]




lorddividian -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 4:06:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

So it didn't work for you...find someone that will and that you can top from the bottom.


*blinks*  Excuse me?  Since when is finding someone compatible, topping from the bottom?


I agree with lost.

Its not, anyone who knows anything know the Sub is really in control anyway. If they dont like to do something you dont do it, or you discuss how it may become an options. One is always topping from the bottom until a repport is established.

The comment was out of contxt really, Looks as if someone doesnt understan the topping from the bottom context.




juliaoceania -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 4:27:46 PM)

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Don't do anything beyond talking in a public place on the first meeting.
Don't go anywhere else with that person on the first meeting, no matter how much you seem to click.
Do meet in person several times minimum, to just sit and talk about both your and his wants and needs from the relationship.
Don't ever go against you gut instincts. If it feels wrong, don't do it.


I agree with some of this. Such as I agree that if one does not want to play on the first meet they should not do it. I would also disagree that if one feels a click with someone they need to wait until they have met with that person on several occasions before they play.

I admit to playing with my Daddy on first meet, I took precautions also, but I did play with him, it was my intuitive self that made me want to, and I trusted my gut instinct... we met a year ago May 11th and we are still moving forward at a steady clip to a permanent relationship.

But if he demanded anything from me I would not have met him in the first place.




BlindDescent -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 5:32:29 PM)

There really seems to be so much struggle and frustration over finding the right charismatic and functional ingrediants from both sides of the equation. What makes it even worse are the stories of those fortunate enough to have found the magical pairing on first meeting. It does tend to put some type of self induced internal pressure on those who can't seem to connect in a reasonable amount of time with a reasonable facsimile of the 'one' of their quest.  Life and relationships, regardless of their origin and destiny are evolutions of self growth and understanding. We learn (or should) with every meeting. Each of us; regardless of where we meet, bring our own agendas of the moment with us. Those could be positive and hopeful. or manipulative and destructive. Add all the other cues that are likely to be misinterpreted in this realm and it's amazing that as many of us are actually able to connect; let alone maintain a bond. The only one's who should dwell in self doubt, are those who don't understand why they draw the same inappropriate people to them, or make the same mistakes over and over.
   I look at meetings and potentials as a series of invitations. I   invite you to have the opportunity to manifest who you wish to be. Should you accept that invitation, then things have the opportunity to procede based on the ingrediants we both bring to the table.  Your ingrediants should bring mine out to their best performance as should mine to you. Is this real dominance? Is this my interpretation of how my strengths operate best?  We should play to our strengths and allow room for growth. In other words; there are many paths to reach the same destination. To the OP...clarify your objectives while never ignoring your intuition. Safe sane and consensual has a broad range of interpretation; know what your definitions are. 




kieth -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 5:33:00 PM)

The comment....... "Don't do anything you aren't comfortable with, especially on a first meet".......is the best a newbie could receive.





lorddividian -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 6:24:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kieth

The comment....... "Don't do anything you aren't comfortable with, especially on a first meet".......is the best a newbie could receive.




I TOTALLY AGREE WITH KEITH ON THIS ONE !!




susie -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 6:39:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Don't do anything beyond talking in a public place on the first meeting.
Don't go anywhere else with that person on the first meeting, no matter how much you seem to click.
Do meet in person several times minimum, to just sit and talk about both your and his wants and needs from the relationship.
Don't ever go against you gut instincts. If it feels wrong, don't do it.

Namaste, Sir Dominic


The only part of this I agree with is the last one. I am one of those that played on a first meet with my Master. We had talked about all sorts of things and had agreed exactly what would happen on that first meeting. There were of course safe calls etc in place (for him as well as me), this was something he was very clear about. We met in a hotel, had dinner and played. 3 years later we are happier than ever. This was all down to gut instinct on both our parts.

Obviously this would not work for everyone and I am not saying it should. I would have missed out on a fantastic experience had I followed your rules. 




ownedgirlie -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 6:43:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: susie

The only part of this I agree with is the last one. I am one of those that played on a first meet with my Master. We had talked about all sorts of things and had agreed exactly what would happen on that first meeting. There were of course safe calls etc in place (for him as well as me), this was something he was very clear about. We met in a hotel, had dinner and played. 3 years later we are happier than ever. This was all down to gut instinct on both our parts.

Obviously this would not work for everyone and I am not saying it should. I would have missed out on a fantastic experience had I followed your rules. 


I can "Ditto" almost all of this.  But we didn't have dinner.  He took me to breakfast the next morning, lol.  That was almost three years ago and the beginning of a changed life for me.




aSlavesLife -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 6:43:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi



I didn't agree, and in fact we fell out. He said he wants nothing to do with me. Fair enough, I respect that. What I don't respect are phrases like. "This is my way, and it works for me." "If you don't do this I will leave."

Fiestyfi x


The man laid his cards on the table, and you chose not to play the game. This makes him no less a real dominant in that regard. It is a variance of " My way or the highway. " and you decided on the highway. He went too fast for you. You went too slow for him. But neither of those events makes dominance or submission any less real. You might have two pieces of different puzzles that will not fit together, but both of them are still puzzle pieces.




LadyHugs -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 7:00:27 PM)

Dear FiestyFi, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
First, I tend to shy away from dispatching words freely like 'true' or 'real' as individuals are measured by a person's perception of what 'true' or 'real' is to them; as well as their experience against other measures of what real/true is in the lifestyle and or BDSM.
 
What is of a concern to me though, is that to honor one's own gut feelings is coming into question.  Findings have been, that gut feelings have an extremely high accuracy level.  What happens when those feelings are ignore--real trouble is courted.
 
That said--Dominants come in all types, shapes, ages, genders and styles of their dominating arts.  The same can be said for submissive and or slave types.  Nobody is a 'one size fits all.'
 
It is a sad fact, that there are many who call themselves Master, Mistress, Dominant and the like and are nothing shy of controlling, manipulating and evil in mind, spirit and deeds.  By the nature of D/s or M/s; submission creates vunerability and that invites abuse.  So, it is very rewarding for men who pose as Dominant, in order to have a one sided quicky and or other uses without taking into consideration what injuries a submissive/slave will suffer in the long run.  Immediate gratification and not see you as a long term investment as a beautiful individual who is worth the respect due.
 
This is not restricted to female slave/submissive/servant types.  Male slave/submissive/servant types are prone to abuse via the guise of a M/s and or D/s and or BDSM relationship.
 
IF and I repeat "IF" you aren't left in a better place mentally, emotionally, spiritually and or physically--its not the pattern of good mastery in a dominant-submissive relationship.
 
Unfortunately, so many people do not have patience to foster a good level of communication to build a level of trust as well as comfort.  People seem that D/s or M/s due to fiction is easy, quick and suddenly appears like ordering through Burger King at a drive through.
 
Please do not fall for the lines--"You aren't a slave if you....insert the don't do this or do this menu of excuses" as to have you change your original gut instincts or change your safe position.  Trust yourself and your gut instincts.  If that person is worth their salt, they will show respect always.  They will be patient and they will help you research and find support and education that will help make a proper decision for you--not for me, not for others--but--for you.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,

Lady Hugs




Celeste43 -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 7:29:13 PM)

I'm not touching the real or fake part. But you need someone who will slow down to a pace you can handle. Which is fine, but you need to tell possible candidates this. You need to be clear that you move slowly and need to build trust before you can take another step.

Some people don't need to do this, they go with the energy flow. They might play on a first meet, or have a one night stand. Doesn't mean they're real or unreal, just very different from me.

But not being willing to move faster than you're comfortable isn't topping from the bottom in my relationship. It just means he's hit an emotional wall within me. He doesn't keep pushing at it, instead he switches to something else and we discuss the problem without any sense of urgency over the next few months. So far, they've always been solvable, sometimes pretty quickly and sometimes real slow. He knows he'll get me where he wants me eventually and he also wants me to be happy to be there so he's smart enough to use techniques that work for me instead of whining that I'm not a real sub and that I'm tftb.




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 7:37:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

So it didn't work for you...find someone that will and that you can top from the bottom.


*blinks*  Excuse me?  Since when is finding someone compatible, topping from the bottom?

Double blink...Ok now that I agree that I find this statement somewhat distasteful and seek clarification as to why it was stated..I went back to the OP's question..The only thing that I can see is her reference to how she has been told how a Dominant type should behave, she is seeking understanding from the only perspective she can relate to at this time which is vanilla boyfriends..What I think that Discipliner may have not understood is that she is coming from naivete and is seeking answers not making demands.Possibly Discipliner has no patience for instructing, informing,the newbie...and that is fine..he does not have to..however..he could of just not responded at all....Tempting




DominantsMF -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 7:41:38 PM)

As a former Domina (I now submit to Him), I do not know that there is much room for 'open lines of communication' within the D/s relationship, outside of the initial topic of limitations.  Certainly there are limitations that arise during the course of a relationship and those should be worked out, however it is of my opinion that what He (or She, depending on whom you are serving) wants for you to do is what you should do as a submissive, or leave.  you always have the right to leave, there should be safe words, and it is very thoughtful of Masters/Mistresses to instruct within the boundaries His or Her submissive/slave requires, but if you are not interested in doing something He requests and you have already taken Him as a Dominant, then perhaps you are not interested in submitting.

That being said, if He met you for the first time wanting to use you for 'play', that may not be appropriate either, but the fact is all Dominants are different.  I never used someone right away and in my earlier days [not submitting to anyone] as a Domina, I would communicate with the perspective submissive/slave well before I would even consider meeting them, then take awhile to pick the appropriate perspective submissive.  For me it was a 'process' which for many the D/s relationship probably isn't (either way is fine of course; We will be whomever We are, right?).

Anyway, feel free to contact me if you would like to talk more.  There ARE a lot of people out there, that neither understand the D/s-lifestyle, nor do they equate it as anything other than a game or a type of 'sex'. 

Take care.

Mistress S




ihavesomemagic4u -> RE: Is this a real dom.. (4/10/2007 7:50:32 PM)

Dear FiestyFi-
Here are some comments I found helpful and hopefully will help you answer your two main questions:
1. What is a dom or a "good dom"?
2. What is a D/s relationship?


What is a dom?
These are some of the Traits of a Good Dominant you should be looking for:
Acceptance: 
Acceptance of self, what is within yourself, what your wants needs and desires are. Acceptance of your limitations and those of your submissive. The ability to accept another human being for the person they are, including their shortcomings and especially to accept your own. Accepting what being a dominant is to the individual and not being ashamed or intimidated by the needs within, but happy in ones mind set. 

Communication: 
This is the ability to talk and discuss things. It is an integral part of any relationship, but an absolute necessity within a D/s one. A dominant should have the skills to communicate their needs, wants, desires, fears, thoughts, limits or whatever else comes along. The ability to talk also calls into play the honesty and truthfulness of the dominant. Once communication is open it should remain that way, and will do so provided the dominant does not stop communicating honestly. To not communicate is to endanger yourself physically (by not telling the submissive your experience and other necessities) and emotionally. 
Compassion: 
The ability to see and at least attempt to understand the emotional aspects of your submissive's psyche. To understand and be aware of the multitude of things within reality that can affect a submissive physically, emotionally and mentally. To be able to apply that understanding to the many situations that arise within daily life that may prevent your submissive from serving to the best of their abilities. Using compassion wisely to allow you to aide your submissive, support him/her during times of stress shows that you are truly a well rounded dominant. One who realizes that a dominant and a submissive are people too. Without compassion you are not a dominant, only a sadist. 
Courtesy: 
This one is fairly self explanatory but many people have asked me for specifics on courtesy. It is the ability to show proper manners, pleases and thank yous. To address someone with a respectful tone of voice. A dominant should show courtesy to his/her submissive and other submissives around them. Just because you are a dominant does not give you the right to be rude or cruel. This includes courtesy to your peers. 
 
Grace: 
Elegance in the manner a dominant presents themselves is an important and desirable personality trait that many submissives say they prefer. The way a dominant carries themselves, their style of play, no matter how graphic should still flow with style and grace. Their actions should not be overly hesitant, stilted or confused. If this is lacking as an inherent ability, the dominant should be willing to learn and grow in this area. 
Dominance: 
This is the most important trait in a dominant. It is the inherent natural ability to lead. To exert control in a respectful, intelligent and humble manner. The strength of character which allows you to exert the control necessary in a power exchange relationship. The ability to care for another person's entire well being. 
Honesty: 
There are far too many people who lack honesty so it has to be said. Honesty is the ability to speak up, be open and truthful about what you say. Don't hide your emotions, fears, limits, fantasies, ideas and thoughts. Don't tell the submissive what you think he/she wants to hear. Honesty is the basis of trust, without it there is no trust. And without the trust, there is no true relationship. A successful dominant is an honest one, one who does not lie or attempt to deceive. One who is truthful when he/she speaks. Most important is to be honest about your level of experience, to lie is to endanger the very life of a submissive. 
Humility: 
This is basically the ability to see yourself as fallible. To see yourself as a person, not just a dominant. To see that sometimes in reality your needs must be set aside for the better of the relationship. (possibly to settle a disagreement, set limits or things of that nature) A successful dominant knows they will make mistakes, that they are no perfect. Sure they have pride in their abilities but they also know that everyone grows constantly and they are secure enough within themselves not to need to be the center of attention at all times. This allows the dominant to be open to learning new things and not have a know it all attitude. This brings into play bullying. Bullying is using your status as a dominant to push around submissives without any thought for their well being at all. Bullying is a completely selfish action. A dominant who consistently bullies will turn submissives away from them and lose the respect of their peers. It shows a lack of humility and can also mask a poor sense of self esteem or a possible abusive person using the lifestyle to hide their abusive nature. 
Intelligence: 
By intelligence I don't mean book smart, the ability to do long involved mathematical equations or pull apart and rebuild a computer. As it applies to a successful dominant intelligence is the ability to learn the proper way of playing with the toys inherent in the lifestyle before using them on a person. The willingness and ability to research and learn about the lifestyle itself. The ability to make informed decisions about what their needs are and how to attain them and just how far their domination goes. The ability to take the time to learn their partner outside the roles of dominant and submissive, to learn him/her as the person they are, their likes and dislikes. The ability to learn what pleases their submissive and remember those things. The dominant should not only take the time and intelligence to know the physical tools, but also the psychological tools of dominance. Along with some basic psychological aspects of their submissive. (Knowledge should grow as people change constantly) There is nothing uglier than seeing an ignorant dominant trying to use humiliation as a tool of dominance. Humiliation is a difficult tool that requires maturity, intelligence, and skill 
Loyalty: 
This is a very important trait in a dominant. It is the ability to uphold your personal honor and remain true to the agreement between you and your submissive should the agreement be one of monogamy or whatever. Fickleness is very unattractive in a dominant and dangerous to the emotional well being of the submissives who serve you. 
Patience: 
A good dominant has patience. The ability to wait for things. Being pushy is aggravating and not being dominant. This does not mean you have to be lax or soft, but to learn the proper time to push and the proper time not to. It is also the ability to wait for those things which take time to develop and to learn, especially within yourself. To realize that it takes time for a submissive to learn all the intricacies of serving you and have the patience to teach the submissive what you prefer. 
Pride: 
This is the ability to know your capacities and realize you are not only a good person but a good dominant. The ability to recognize your own strengths. This does not mean you should be closed minded to new ideas. Nor does it mean you should be unaware of your faults or keep an inflated ego. Pride in your dominance is a beautiful thing, arrogance or false pride are deadly. False pride usually masks insecurities which can be life threatening to the submissive. 
Respect: 
A successful dominant will show respect at all times, until such time as the submissive proves he/she is unworthy of such respect. A disrespectful dominant does not earn the respect of his/her peers or the submissives around them. By giving respect to others, you earn it for yourself. 
Responsibility 
A good dominant should have a sense of responsibility and be aware that they are the ones who are in control of a scene. They should take this responsibility seriously and act in such a manner that will keep themselves and their submissive as safe as possible. A good dominant should take responsibility for his/her own actions, even so far as admitting a mistake when one is made and not push the blame onto someone else. A good dominant should use this sense of responsibility to learn before acting.  
Self Control 
A good dominant must be in control of themselves first before they can even hope to control another safely. A good dominant is not one who is prone to fits of out of control behavior, raging fits and other actions which show a lack of self control. A dominant should be able to keep his physical needs in check in order to maintain a scene safely for the submissive. A good Dom should also have the self control needed to stick to his/her guns when they are faced with a begging sub for something new that they know is dangerous and that they know they have no experience in.  
Self Respect: 
A good dominant values themselves, and respects their own limits. A bully does not thrill a submissive. A solid sense of self worth is a necessity for a dominant or they can cause serious damage to the submissive's psyche. This does not mean act like you are the universe's gift to domination. 
Service: 
This is applicable to dominants but not in the same way as a submissive. A dominant serves their submissive by and through their dominance. By intelligently applying their dominant nature, and meeting the physical and emotional needs of the submissive, the dominant mutually serves the submissive. A successful dominant remembers that without a submissive, there is no such thing as a dominant. And that to receive the submission of a person is a gift. The dominant will therefore cherish that gift, and do their best to uphold it and not abuse it. This is the key to an exchange of power relationship. 

Those are the traits which I have repeatedly heard make a successful dominant. Many of them overlap and refer to other traits within them. And most of them are applicable to every relationship not just those within D/s. These are the traits I have heard many submissives speak of as what they are looking for in a dominant. Not everyone will have all of those traits bred into them, and some of them can be learned. But those traits do reflect what is within a true dominant. This list is meant as an informational aide only and not as a hard core end all and be all ruling of what makes a dominant. 

Second,
2. What is a D/s relationship?
D/s stands for Domination and submission. It is a relationship between two people that includes what is known as a power exchange. The submissive consensually grants the dominant the authority to exert control over him/her. It is a mutual relationship. It is based on trust and commitment. The necessities of such a relationship are communication, trust, respect, knowledge, awareness of self, and ideally love. It is a very complex and varied lifestyle, with each relationship differing from another.

Communication is a major key in a successful D/s relationship. The people involved must be able to talk with each other openly and share their thoughts, feelings, ideas and fantasies. This type of communication is difficult to achieve and requires work to maintain. But without it, the relationship will not survive. The goals of both participants is the pleasure of the other. Neither participant can meet that goal if they do not know what pleases the other participant. Communication can take many forms, bedtime snuggle talk, notes, letters, even stories can relate your needs, and emotions to your partner. The important thing is to talk with each other, honestly and in an open manner.

Trust is another major key in a successful D/s relationship. Trust is earned, not forced. And it must go both ways. The submissive must trust the dominant with their very life. Trust is earned by the behavior of both participants. Open communication and honesty help to build the trust within the relationship. Respecting the limits of your partner will build trust. Accepting all aspects of your partner’s personality will also build the trust. Within life trust is a tenuous thing, within D/s it is even more so. It is easy to break the trust in a D/s relationship, and very hard to repair it.

The participants within a D/s relationship need to respect each other. Their partner's needs, wants, fears, doubts, achievements and abilities should all be respected. Respect is another earned aspect of D/s. Your actions will dictate whether or not you are deserving of the respect given within a D/s relationship.

The participants in a D/s relationship should have at least a basic knowledge of what they are doing. Of what the outcomes of their actions could be. How to use the various toys and equipment associated with the lifestyle. A basic knowledge of the emotional needs within the relationship, and a good working knowledge of each other. It takes time to know that much about D/s, and each other. Take the time to learn as much as you can and your relationship will work better.

Those within D/s should have at least a basic awareness of themselves. By this I mean a person should know what is in themselves. Know their own personal needs and limits before they can make the informed choice of whether or not to submit, or whether or not they have what it takes to be a dominant. This is a long process and takes some time to accomplish, though it never is finished. They should also be aware that despite the close bond which forms in such a relationship, that they are in fact individuals also. The people in the relationship should never forget that they are indeed people, and should give room for human error. Everyone is human and no human is perfect. Expecting perfection is the easiest way to be disappointed.

Ideally a D/s relationship should include love. Though this is not a necessity for a satisfying relationship, it does strengthen the bond between the two people. From experience, I have learned just how close a D/s relationship becomes. With enough time, patience and communication, there is literally no secrets left. Love itself is hard to define and each person has their own definition, to me it is an emotional bond between two people. There are varying degrees of love, my opinion is such that ideally in D/s, unconditional love should be present. It makes the relationship so much more emotionally satisfying when love is present.

Such a relationship is indeed a very complex one. The exchange of power from one person to another can be a frightening thing to think about. There are varying levels of such exchange of power… ranging from those who play every once in a while, to those who mutually consent to a slave arrangement and give total control to another. What each person, no matter their level of involvement, should also remember is to respect their partner’s limits. Those within the lifestyle should be tolerant of the differences between their relationship and another's. There are no set rules for what constitutes a "proper" D/s relationship. And those of us who are within the lifestyle should accept this fact. I believe that so long as the participants are happy and each person's needs are met consensually, then the particulars do not matter.


Hope this helps.





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