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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 8:50:56 AM

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I agree with some of the previous posters, it is what you both agree on. If both are happy with the situation, it is all good, but if one is unhappy, it would seem destined for failure. For me at least, the more I care about her, the more I am willing to submit to, or do without. So a male wife could possible still experience a TPE. if that is what you both seek. It would seem a slave would be the best, since then you could make him what ever you pleased. I think you women just want to have your cake, and eat too. But isn't that what many subs wish to provide you with! I know it is my fantasy.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 10:05:51 AM

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I'm still looking for our male wife ... and after working about 63 hours in 5 days, good lord I need one ...

I think I'll be passing out soon ...

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 12:04:31 PM

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quote:

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For me at least, the more I care about her, the more I am willing to submit to, or do without. So a male wife could possible still experience a TPE. if that is what you both seek. It would seem a slave would be the best, since then you could make him what ever you pleased. I think you women just want to have your cake, and eat too. But isn't that what many subs wish to provide you with! I know it is my fantasy.

LOL I dunno, liks2, I see an awful lot of guys who are only in this for the kinky sex…not TPE and certainly not to be a ‘male wife’. Of course, that’s not a bad thing…just not what I want in my guy!
I don’t know that I want my cake and to eat it too, anymore than I’d want to ensure my partner got his, as well. I want TPE…to some degree. And I always choke on that phrase ‘make him do what ever…’ I don’t want to make someone do something; I want to whisper something in his ear and have him just do it. I want to mention I’d like something and just have him …make it so.
It is, however, a two way street. Of course things aren’t gonna work if both people are not happily getting their needs met. I think relationships are worth celebrating…and when people are so enjoying their partners…they do celebrate them. And in so many ways: including kinky sex, but also more…loving sex, fantasy, play, whatever turns them on. Both of them!
I was recently chatting with a friend who blushes like crazy when I mention something about his kink. He so wants to be ‘forced’ so…even merely whispering things that begin “You know you want….,” sends him. It is always a two-way street; when a partner is turned on, it’s always enjoyable to me, too.
When women have male wives as serious partners…I would bet most of the time they love them, too. Who wouldn’t want to see the ones they love happy? That’s why it’s good to know the one you’re with….at least in my book.
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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 5:31:06 PM

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Hi Miss B
It would be great if a sub could provide everything his Domme wanted. Not likely to find perfection. I only speak for myself, but when I say made to do something, require might be more appropriate. The more humiliating things I would at least like to feel as though I was made, even though I might actually desire it. Most things I would do willingly, but some of the more kinky things I probably would not suggest or volunteer for, but would obey, and maybe even enjoy. Don't know if it is this site or my computer, but if I try to move the prompt back to change, or correct something, I can't get back into the reply box! A TPE being almost the same as being a slave, makes me cautious of what I wish for, but still believe possible with the right women. It is certainly appealing to me so far.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 6:22:56 PM

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liks2, I like how you think…I just want you to remember there is more to pleasing and blind obedience. There is also joy and compromise (for the impossibilities), there is fun and delight in trying but also love in failure and the attempt.

I like that you include ‘maybe even enjoy’; there is so much that some have not tried, nor considered or even looked at with knowledge and insight. Sometimes we say no to something because the thought of it is just too scary. Again, everything is relative and nobody wants to break their toys. Keep that in mind (as you remember; you, likes2, could be the toy!)

Fantasy is delightful, but ‘NO’ is always a choice in real life. Sure, we all want to live happily ever after…and that is why really good communication and a slow road to commitment is a good idea.

That’s how I think things should be done,
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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 8:50:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsBearlee

quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

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For me at least, the more I care about her, the more I am willing to submit to, or do without. So a male wife could possible still experience a TPE. if that is what you both seek. It would seem a slave would be the best, since then you could make him what ever you pleased. I think you women just want to have your cake, and eat too. But isn't that what many subs wish to provide you with! I know it is my fantasy.

LOL I dunno, liks2, I see an awful lot of guys who are only in this for the kinky sex…not TPE and certainly not to be a ‘male wife’. Of course, that’s not a bad thing…just not what I want in my guy!
I don’t know that I want my cake and to eat it too, anymore than I’d want to ensure my partner got his, as well. I want TPE…to some degree. And I always choke on that phrase ‘make him do what ever…’ I don’t want to make someone do something; I want to whisper something in his ear and have him just do it. I want to mention I’d like something and just have him …make it so.
It is, however, a two way street. Of course things aren’t gonna work if both people are not happily getting their needs met. I think relationships are worth celebrating…and when people are so enjoying their partners…they do celebrate them. And in so many ways: including kinky sex, but also more…loving sex, fantasy, play, whatever turns them on. Both of them!
I was recently chatting with a friend who blushes like crazy when I mention something about his kink. He so wants to be ‘forced’ so…even merely whispering things that begin “You know you want….,” sends him. It is always a two-way street; when a partner is turned on, it’s always enjoyable to me, too.
When women have male wives as serious partners…I would bet most of the time they love them, too. Who wouldn’t want to see the ones they love happy? That’s why it’s good to know the one you’re with….at least in my book.
MsB

Great post MsBearlee.
You have hit a nail on the head that many miss.
Being a "wife" is a lot of WORK, look at what many wives actually DO.
Being a male wife is not for the faint of heart, or for those that
get scared having to DO actual WORK, and do it OFTEN.

Any male, {submissive or not} that is willing or WANT'S to perform the DUTIES and hard work, that most wives assume, is a rare treasure.

I assure you, MOST "submissive" men online, DO NOT want to be a male wife.
Even if they say they do, the real test is actually doing the hard work.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/14/2008 10:18:44 PM

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I have to ask what hard work are we talking about here. I can see the extra car to take care of, and now I only have about a third of the laundry to do. But thats is mostly folding, and I could do that while watching football. A few extra dishes to wash! What am I forgetting?

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 12:51:40 AM

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 5:43:32 AM

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quote:

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I have to ask what hard work are we talking about here. I can see the extra car to take care of, and now I only have about a third of the laundry to do. But thats is mostly folding, and I could do that while watching football. A few extra dishes to wash! What am I forgetting?

For us, it would be 3 more cars to take care of; a lot of dishes to wash; all of my laundry - most of which gets hung, not folded - plus helping with the rest of the household laundry; helping to groom my Shih Tzus; helping to take care of all 5 dogs plus any and all puppies that they produce; helping to take care of the rest of the zoo - 2 birds, 3 cats, 4 turtles, a frog, about a dozen rats, I think there are 6 hamsters, and all of the fish and associated aquariums; then there is making sure that the freezers and refridgerator contain food that everyone can eat (which means keeping track of both Holly's and my food allergies); keeping track of medications and refill dates; keeping track of work schedules and making sure that there is portable food to be taken ... in addition to the general housework and pampering.

I don't know about specifics for anyone else's household, but any time you add one or more people to a household, it involves far more than just the extra laundry and dishes and car.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 6:46:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

I have to ask what hard work are we talking about here. I can see the extra car to take care of, and now I only have about a third of the laundry to do. But thats is mostly folding, and I could do that while watching football. A few extra dishes to wash! What am I forgetting?

Perhaps your idea of meal planning, shopping, cooking and clean-up, keeping a lovely yard and housekeeping in general is different than others. Not to mention meeting your Lady at the door with a hot cup of tea and offering it to her on your knees while she drops off her packages, briefcase and coat into your waiting arms. See, a wife would also take care of all that, too!

<nearly falls outta chair at the 'Windows' comment! ROFLMAO>

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 7:18:18 AM

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i do more than my chores i run the house except or the finances she maintains the power of the purse.
as for begging it comes down to once or twice a month

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 7:21:59 AM

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I'd like to have a fleshy robot that makes a lot of money and looks like Angelina Jolie and cooks like Julia Child and handles the finances like Suzie Ormond and likes rough sex.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 7:30:24 AM

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Yeah, good luck with that.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 8:31:22 AM

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quote:

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I have to ask what hard work are we talking about here. I can see the extra car to take care of, and now I only have about a third of the laundry to do. But thats is mostly folding, and I could do that while watching football. A few extra dishes to wash! What am I forgetting?

There's a difference between maintaining a house and maintaining it well, or with quality. A man can "make dinner" by putting something in the microwave and hitting 'start'." The meals my "househusband" prepare are made from scratch with meat and produce from markets that are not on the corner and easy to get to, that take marinating or processes that often involve the better part of the day. He makes his own bread and his own chicken stock. He makes not only dinner, but breakfast and lunch every day. So cooking alone is probably 20% of his time.

Housework, errands, banking, screening calls, maintaining the social calendar, buying gifts for birthdays or anniversaries of friends and family, shopping for my essentials - from hosiery to makeup when I need it, yardwork, walking dogs up to 2x a day when I need things especially serene, maintaining my wardrobe (ironing), bedding, bathrooms, etc. He also volunteers 15 - 20 hours a week depending on how much time we have.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/15/2008 9:01:44 AM

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YES!!! I do windows Ms Pact. I do everything I always did, and everything my x did or former girl friends did. I admit I don't have that many pets to deal with, all any of my formers had were a dog and 2 cats. I do the shopping and the meal planning, although probably not as elaborate as I might with a woman around. I keep a decent yard, maybe not lovely.Serving her tea or coffee on my knees whenever is not work to me, but something highly desirable that I look forward to. I indicated I expected a 2/3 increase in laundry, but it does not take that long to throw it in a washer, and I can fold while watching the game.
Since I am an old bastard, I assume that I would be most likely involved with a single woman, and I still do not see it increasing my workload by that much. I also assume other single people do all the same things taking care of their house as well, so there shouldn't be that much additional hard work. Correct me if I am wrong, because I am asking here, if I missed anything.?

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/17/2008 9:57:15 AM

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The preceding commercial message was brought to you by the Donna Reed School of Male Wifery.

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In "Ask a Mistress", a related thread has cropped up: "Choreplay" at

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The OP includes a link to a "vanilla" news story which postulates that a vanilla husband might try doing chores around the house as a means for foreplay to get his wife "in the mood".

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/living/stories/2008/02/12/choreplay0212.html

So, do you see "no strings housework" as something that can make the male wife more alluring to his Dominant partner?

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/17/2008 11:15:11 AM

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LOL I sooooooo enjoy you, afly! Thank you, I needed that!

With regard to the book mentioned…it is not a new idea; I remember a funny little comedy, years ago, in which the wife put the practices of how to train your pup-sort of book to how to treat her new husband. He had no idea what she was doing, but I remember she shared the results with her women friends. He even liked being scratched behind the ears! LOL For some reason, I’ve always remembered that little movie… Heh, heh, heh. I wonder if it has anything to do with my regular use of the phrase ‘Good boy’. LOL

As to ‘choreplay’; I like the idea. You see, for the most part, I believe it generally takes both incomes and the energies of both parties (unless one does not work), to keep a house in order. While I expect my man, in a sort of knightly way, to always attempt to please me and make my life easier. Having said that, I’m aware many men who are interested in submission find both service (including housework), and dress-up fantasy as play. Perhaps it is because I am so realistic and not so much into fantasy; or perhaps because I am interested in a LTR…in my mind housework, chores and play are distinctly different unless you intentionally merge them in a game or play-session. And that can be lots of fun, of course!

I know one boy who still remembers being made to vacuum the house in heels, hands behind back and balls tied to the handle of the machine. He fairly glowed telling the story. Reading the interest here, that so many have in the ‘trappings’ of submission…I should probably keep that story in mind and get more creative about play!

I’m so happy we’re back on track,
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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/17/2008 11:59:11 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AFlyInYourWeb

The preceding commercial message was brought to you by the Donna Reed School of Male Wifery.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

In "Ask a Mistress", a related thread has cropped up: "Choreplay" at

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1632907/tm.htm

The OP includes a link to a "vanilla" news story which postulates that a vanilla husband might try doing chores around the house as a means for foreplay to get his wife "in the mood".

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/living/stories/2008/02/12/choreplay0212.html

So, do you see "no strings housework" as something that can make the male wife more alluring to his Dominant partner?

AFIYW, thanks for keeping this thread alive.

"Choreplay" I think that is cute, and if it helps vanilla women, I am all for it.
lol

I would think if a man, really is the male version of a wife, "no strings housework" would not be an issue.

Do normal female wives have chats about "no strings housework"?

Oh, I forgot it is only an issue because we are talking about men doing housework, sorry.

It is just NOT a big issue for most female wives.

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/17/2008 5:39:00 PM

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I think men can do housework about as well as women can drive

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RE: Does anyone else here seek a male wife? - 2/17/2008 5:45:31 PM

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I couldn't help, but read your quote. I wondered if you expect to be sexual with her, as her male wife, & also, do you expect to be kept home & supported. After all, we all know Donna Reed's husband (in the show) supported her. If those two things are to be included in your list, at least for me, I would opt out. I don't have sex with my male submissives, & I certainly won't be supporting them financially, nor providing them with a home.

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