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Vendaval -> "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 2:31:14 AM)
"ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against Iran" April 03, 2007 5:25 PM Brian Ross and Christopher Isham Report: "A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News. The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran." http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html (Format edit)

farglebargle -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 5:46:51 AM)
Hmmm... I don't remember Congress authorizing any money for Bush to "Advise" Pakistani terrorists. I guess he lied again. This time where that money was GOING to be spent.

Sanity -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 6:07:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Hmmm... I don't remember Congress authorizing any money for Bush to "Advise" Pakistani terrorists. I guess he lied again. This time where that money was GOING to be spent. Try again, farglebargle. Right after 9/11 the President said in a televised speech before God, Congress, and everyone else that a part of the war would be secret... just because people have selective hearing doesn't mean that the shit they're so blissfully ignorant of is a lie of some kind, especially when it was broadcast live on every major news channel and reprinted in every major newspaper

luckydog1 -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 10:24:56 AM)
Farg did you even read the article, "U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight." Damn facts are pesky things....

Thorysus -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 11:00:58 AM)
while yer there is a difference in funding and encouraging for sure but hasnt this goverment learned form iran contra and also we did help to trai and arm basicly the same people who are fighting against us now. Top me its this exact two faced dirty double dealing stuff that makes Bush and his policies such a joke. You can never trust a snake in the grass reguardless of what he says or where is from.

Vendaval -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 11:55:07 AM)
"Pakistan Denounces ABC News Report on Backing Iran Radicals" April 05, 2007 3:54 PM Justin Rood and Gretchen Peters Report: " On Thursday, a spokesman for the Pakistani military also disputed the ABC News report in an interview with ABC News. "It is totally untrue to say our intelligence agencies have anything to do with Jundullah," said General Wahid Arshad, Pakistan's chief military spokesman. "We know of the man (Jundullah leader Abd el Malik Regi) quoted in your story, and he is nothing more than a criminal and a drug dealer." But according to ABC News consultant Alexis Debat, who just returned from the region, Pakistani intelligence recently facilitated the payment of $1.3 million by Iran to Jundullah to obtain the release of kidnapped Iranian border guards, "They (the Iranians) are escorted by Pakistani intelligence into Pakistan to meet with Jundullah officials and probably Regi himself to make the exchange to give the money and get the hostages back. So Pakistani intelligence in many ways is involved in that." ABC News stands by its reporting on this story. " http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/pakistan_denoun.html

farglebargle -> RE: "ABC News Exclusvie: The Secret War Against Iran" (4/11/2007 12:06:24 PM)
quote: Try again, farglebargle. Right after 9/11 the President said in a televised speech before God, Congress, and everyone else that a part of the war would be secret... Right. 1) It's not a War. Only Congress can declare War. Congress has not declared War. AND THE AUMF doesn't say Iran, does it? Nope. Says: * Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons inspectors * Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region" * Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population" * Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people" * Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt of former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War * Members of al-Qaeda were "known to be in Iraq" * Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations * Fear that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against the United States * The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight the 9/11 terrorists and those who aided or harbored them * The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism * Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement How could that cover lying about appropriations used to conduct an unlawful, UNDECLARED WAR ON IRAN. If Bush wants a war, he should be a Man, go to Capitol Hill and lay out why he should have an Act of War passed. But we all know he ain't no Man.

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