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stormysoul -> humiliation (4/11/2007 8:16:02 AM)
Hello, I know what I get from humiliation, but what does a Master get from it? Is it sexual, a sense of power or something else? stormy x

mnottertail -> RE: humiliation (4/11/2007 8:19:19 AM)
It is a chasmic subject, you have given three of the infinite number of answers. Ron

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: humiliation (4/11/2007 8:20:01 AM)
Same as any kink- it scratches an itch, it feels good, for some it's the control, for some it's the authority. For me it's knowing I'm putting them where I want them and making sure they know it. Huge high for me.

Faramir -> RE: humiliation (4/11/2007 2:48:03 PM)
"Humiliate," in an etymological sense, is to lower, to make close to the earth (hummus). When I humiliate a women, I hear her showing me with her actions, with her body, her words, her obedience, her fervor, that she is below me, low, crawling in physical/meatphysical ways. it "D/s" made flesh for me.

SimplyMichael -> RE: humiliation (4/11/2007 3:01:57 PM)
To see a glorious powerful woman, one whom other men lust for, cater to, and in general defer to, set all that aside for the mere chance to offer herself as a mere hole for your use and pleasure is at times mildly diverting...

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 6:38:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael To see a glorious powerful woman, one whom other men lust for, cater to, and in general defer to, set all that aside for the mere chance to offer herself as a mere hole for your use and pleasure is at times mildly diverting... But is that actually humiliating that woman or is it Dominating her?

SimplyMichael -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 10:14:31 AM)
I would hope getting on her knees before me would not be humiliating. Seriously, it would be devastating to find out she was serving me because she found that degrading. The humiliation and degradation I enjoy playing with come from a place of such a woman offering herself up to me for any use I desire. That submission should be because she craves the embrace of my power and never because she feels she has no choice. Anyone can dominate a dog and the most careless scratching will get it to wag its tail. That holds no interest to me, I want to tame a tiger.

aldompdx -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 10:54:35 AM)
Humuliation by breaking down the ego, induces surrender. Through surrender, one gains access to greater emotional intimacy. The mind and ego no longer impede the heart to clearly shine through. It is a form of psychological sadism. When the sadist cannot reciprocate the same level of emotional intimacy, then it is just one way taking. The sadist seeks to extract the light of another's heart, because they cannot see their own. The ultimate sadist takes the greatest intimacy in sharing another's last breath of life. Be careful to make a critical distinction when engaging in humiliation. Is it giving, taking, or sharing emotional intimacy?

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 1:03:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I would hope getting on her knees before me would not be humiliating. Seriously, it would be devastating to find out she was serving me because she found that degrading. The humiliation and degradation I enjoy playing with come from a place of such a woman offering herself up to me for any use I desire. That submission should be because she craves the embrace of my power and never because she feels she has no choice. Anyone can dominate a dog and the most careless scratching will get it to wag its tail. That holds no interest to me, I want to tame a tiger. From what I know of you, I figured those were your views. I was just wondering what your post had to do with humiliation?

SimplyMichael -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 1:10:21 PM)
BSM, Your post was too subtle for me to clue in on. In other words, no matter what how degrading the act she did for me, it would be something for her to be proud of, not ashamed?

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 1:16:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael BSM, Your post was too subtle for me to clue in on. In other words, no matter what how degrading the act she did for me, it would be something for her to be proud of, not ashamed? Understood Michael... Subtle, huh?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m26.gif[/image]

Pulpsmack -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 6:17:04 PM)
Humiliation (unless in the form of punishment -a completely different animal) is something that complements arrousal. Imagine the object of your desire and all the feelings and sensations that accompany your vision of this one. Now, imagine recrprocal attraction (s)he gazes upon you with longing. Immediately the sensation of your desire is enhanced. NOW put that person in a compromising position that distracts or challenges desire and watch the person walk through this fire with the same, no... MORE passionate reception to your touch and command. It is a leap of faith I have her perform, and when she lands in my arms on the other side, a stronger sort of intimacy is formed. That and watching the little slut debase herself for me really makes the rod rigid.

N4SDChastity -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 7:43:56 PM)
I get a stiffie!

facinated -> RE: humiliation (4/12/2007 7:46:32 PM)
In your case as your profile says you live for it, perhaps he gets satisfaction from knowing that it is increasing your pleasure in your submissive experience.

Elorin -> RE: humiliation (4/14/2007 7:45:40 PM)
As a top, when I am doing a humiliation scene I am most often amused by the lengths to which a submissive will go "just because I said so." I often look for activities that do nothing other than amuse me (even more humiliating to the sub) and then chuckle and enjoy the power rush that someone would do this just for my amusement. Sometimes humiliation feeds my inner darkness, the desire to do all of the bad, nasty, evil things that society says we shouldn't and that are wrong. And again, it is a power rush that someone will accept these things from me, accept me without despising me, and that later we will be able to sit and have a meal like civilized human beings without repugnance or an inner hatred. Sometimes humiliation is simply about a difference of values, and although my sub finds it humiliating, I just like it. And it can be about teaching my sub that it doesn't have to be humiliating to, for instance, be pissed on, or kiss someone's feet, or be silenced with a look. ~E

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: humiliation (4/15/2007 7:51:21 AM)
In part it is the power, but its more than that to me. Typically, the sub likes to be humilated, and that it excites her excites me and makes me want to do it. That seems to be a problem of mine, kinks become alot more interesting if it pushes a girls buttons in all the right ways. In way i feel like im the one doing the pleasing because im doing something to her that she enjoys. But at the same time,it excites me that she enjoys what im doing to her, so she is excited she is pleasing me. In which case everyone involved is really excited and pleasing everyone else and getting pleased at the same time. Ahhhh its like winning the lottery everyday. Yep im weird.

firsttimesissy -> RE: humiliation (4/15/2007 9:15:14 AM)
for me- I hope the Master gets the enjoyment of being able to degrade me in any way he chooses- he can push his imagination to the most degrading depths, and know that his pig will humiliate itself for his amusement and enjoyment.

BondageTopJere -> RE: humiliation (4/15/2007 10:29:16 AM)
quote: Sometimes humiliation feeds my inner darkness, the desire to do all of the bad, nasty, evil things that society says we shouldn't and that are wrong. And again, it is a power rush that someone will accept these things from me, accept me without despising me, and that later we will be able to sit and have a meal like civilized human beings without repugnance or an inner hatred. Spot on for me, plus theres also a couple of other distinctions. If a sub finds a paticular behavior humiliating and enjoyable, I'm just as likely not to do it. I much prefer finding those things in between hard limit and toleration and using those as humiliation tools. For a lot of subs, watersports typically falls into that gray area, ageplay is another. Humliation's probably THE most encompassing and unique to the person type of play to engage in and ones persons triggers are entirely too much for another and not enough for yet another.

dznutzx69 -> RE: humiliation (4/15/2007 10:31:32 AM)
for me its sexual.

Stranger1 -> RE: humiliation (4/15/2007 4:24:54 PM)
It's what you get out of it-or don't.

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