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NorthernGent -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 1:13:18 PM)
You seem certain about this: quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Sure, some immigration is actually good for a country but what is going on in Europe is obviously not good. What immigration is good, and what immigration is bad? quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 In one of those articles I read about Sweden there was a picture (police photographer) of two women who were nearly beaten to death and raped by African immigrants. Is rape the preserve of African immigrants? Doesn't the US have the highest rate of rape in the developed world - no white rapists in the US? quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Also one of the new things that muslims do is to rob elderly people in cemeteries as they visit the graves of their loved ones. Christian cemetaries mean nothing to them. The article also stated that "crime by immigrants has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years." You're making some fairly strong claims, here. Can you post your link, so I can see the source and the evidence? quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 I would think that all the news articles and crime rates would be proof that these immigration scemes from Africa and muslim countries just aren't working out the way they were "supposed" to. Doesn't the US have the highest rates of murder and rape in the developed world? What does that mean then - things aren't working out like they're supposed to? quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 The problem with these types of "feel good" programs is that they are started by a small group of people with no care about what The People think but of course they want to involve everyone else in their grandiose schemes and have everyone else PAY for them. To be taken seriously, you need to state: 1) What is a feel good programme? 2) Who are the small group of people and how do they start these programmes? 3) Who are the people? 4) Aren't you big on personal responsibility? By extension, you are saying that the people are dominated by a small group of "feel gooders" - best "the people" take responsbility then. quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 It's one thing to be liberal but it's quite another thing to be stupid. That is about the size of this conversation.

popeye1250 -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 2:18:36 PM)
Gent, how does this work, I have to answer your questions but you don't have to answer mine?

NorthernGent -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 2:32:55 PM)
Popeye, the accusations in your post are based on these articles, so I can't really answer until I see what you're talking about. Seems like a fair deal to me. Put the link up for your articles and I'll give you my opinion.

seeksfemslave -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 2:41:32 PM)
quote: popeye Here's an idea, why don't you import a bunch of immigrants from Haiti where 1 out of 2 is infected with the Aids virus edited. Thats just whats occuring in the UK except they are coming from Africa.

popeye1250 -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 2:56:10 PM)
Here you go Gent, here's just an appetiser for you. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938 I just yahoo'd that up. There's about 500 articles on this problem in Europe.

BrutalDemon -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 2:57:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent By the way, there were 50 gun murders in England and Wales in 2006. Now, I know at least 2 of them were white kids shooting white kids because they happened 'round the corner from me. Let's say 10 are white kids, a conservative estimate. This means 40 members of the black community were murdered from a community of say, 1 to 2 million people at a rough guess. 40 people out of 1 to 2 million is not representative of black culture. How the fuck did we not realise that Blair is a conservative? But if you look at it another way... 10 gun murders out of 20 million whites... 40 gun murders out of 2 million blacks... That means you're 40 times more likely to be shot and killed if you're black instead of white... that's a startling "statistic". It also indicates that there might just be some truth in the idea that young, black, "ghetto gangstaz" are intentionally trying to emulate some sort of fantasy sub-culture, and the only examples of role models they have, is the sensationalist stories reported in the media.

popeye1250 -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:02:54 PM)
Gent, go to Yahoo search, type in Sweden, Malmo, rapes, immigrants. There are tens of PAGES of articles!

NorthernGent -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:10:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Here you go Gent, here's just an appetiser for you. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938 I just yahoo'd that up. There's about 500 articles on this problem in Europe. Popeye, isn't that just a blog? Any credible links?

NorthernGent -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:12:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BrutalDemon But if you look at it another way... 10 gun murders out of 20 million whites... 40 gun murders out of 2 million blacks... That means you're 40 times more likely to be shot and killed if you're black instead of white... that's a startling "statistic". It also indicates that there might just be some truth in the idea that young, black, "ghetto gangstaz" are intentionally trying to emulate some sort of fantasy sub-culture, and the only examples of role models they have, is the sensationalist stories reported in the media. My point was 40 people are not representative of 1 to 2 million people. Could you look at that another way?

BrutalDemon -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:12:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Gent, go to Yahoo search, type in Sweden, Malmo, rapes, immigrants. There are tens of PAGES of articles! I did just that... and here's a direct quote from one of the "articles" thrown up... quote: The BBC pulled a documentary scheduled for screening in 2004, after police in Britain warned it could increase racial tension. “In these exceptional circumstances... Channel 4 as a responsible broadcaster has agreed to the police’s request...” The documentary was to show how Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abused young, white English girls as young as 11. This is a complete lie, and isn't even consistent. The BBC and Channel 4 are completely different companies... no documentary was pulled, or even produced, that purported to perpetuate some myth about racially motivated child abuse. I guess I should have known it was utter propoganda when I saw the slogan at the top of the page "Email this to your E-Brigades". Just more neo-Nazi bollocks claiming to tell "the truth" about immigrants without citing a single piece of real eveidence to support their lies.

BrutalDemon -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:18:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Could you look at that another way? Sure... I'm not disagreeing. Whatever the real statistics are, they're hardly any kind of reflection on the population AS A WHOLE. I long for the day when the UFO's land... then men of any colour... black, white, yellow, red... can live in complete harmony... and kick the living shit outta those little green bastards! Coming here, taking our women... raping our jobs... loud cooking, smelly music... wouldn't let my daughter marry one.

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:47:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent My point was 40 people are not representative of 1 to 2 million people. Could you look at that another way? Hmmm, how many corporate execs where convicted for wrong doing last year? 10, 20, 30,100,200 versus a Million or 2 worldwide. Obviously there is no problem in the corporate world. Could you look at that another way?

Domspaintoy -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 3:54:23 PM)
Indeed, well said actually. Only ever takes one sensible head to stop a war 'apparently', but it appears to take many to actually start one. shrug

seeksfemslave -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 4:25:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BrutalDemon I long for the day when the UFO's land...edited When they do the black gangstas will start shooting them for invading their turf!!

seeksfemslave -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 4:30:52 PM)
If I were to express my feelings about the total naivety of NG I would get banned. lol Dont forget he's got a degree. and lives off the taxpayer and wants the rest of the under developed world to do likewise Ever stopped to think why 50 years after independance most of Africa is still...underdeveloped Anybody...its no good asking NG lol

DCWoody -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 4:42:05 PM)
sheesh....this thread is going over to immigration as well? some european countries.....notably france....have huge problems with african muslim immigrants.......but this thread is about Blair....and therefore the UK....which doesn't. what the UK has is a growing problem among the young black community....and no-one can (sensibly) blame that on imigration as it is (99%) second generationers.....

DCWoody -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 4:45:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Ever stopped to think why 50 years after independance most of Africa is still...underdeveloped Right.....I mean it only took Europe several thousand years and the second world war to stabilise.........50 years for africa is obviously way too long.....

Jack45 -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 5:43:33 PM)
Imus was fired from CBS and MSNBC because his remarks was so "racist", well what is Blair doing still as PM? Shouldn't he be groveling and resign or be kicked out as Imus was ---IMMEDIATELY?

BrutalDemon -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/13/2007 7:29:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave <edited> I <edited> live <edited> under <edited> Anybody <edited> You said it... it must be true... or am I taking your words out of context to suit my own agenda? [:D][:D][:D][:D]

Real0ne -> RE: Blair blames spate of murders on black culture (4/14/2007 12:03:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Probably the same as the people in the US - black, white, asian - generally from the poorest socio economic groups in society. cough cough... errm... or the richest :)

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