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viglione -> attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 12:32:02 AM)

i am new to the site i found this chick who is fierce looking she demanded that i pay her right away to even talk to her! she furnished proof that she was who she says she is. so i agreed to pay her then i google her email address it says she's in this pro ana nation...  my question is does this mean this chick is unstable? does it mean she is not a dominant?




GrizzlyBear -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 12:35:12 AM)

It means all she wants is your money.  Do you get off by throwing money at abusive women, and getting nothing but scorn in return?  If so, you might be in luck.




littlesarbonn -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 12:40:32 AM)

My understanding is that if she's pro ana nation, she's part of an anorexic community. Not sure what that has to do with anything else.




CuriousLord -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 12:59:11 AM)

"Normal" individuals in this community may walk one another around on dog leashes, cut eachother and drink the blood, tie eachother up and beat them, and love all of it. It would be the general consensus of the world at large that she is unstable. This community, however, is phobic of passing judgment so readily to what may simply be a controlled and harmless kink.




StellaByStarlite -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 4:56:22 AM)

"Ana Nation" is pro-anorexic. Since these kinds of groups are *actively* involved in teaching our young female children to starve themselves, I'm going to say that yes, that would make her unstable.

Girls with eating disorders operate from a place of self-loathing. They're stuck in a vicious cycle of self-hatred/narcissism. Ask yourself... would a woman who feels *that* out of control with her life make a healthy dominant.

Go ahead and research anorexia and see what it's about. That'll answer your question, I'm sure. Urge her to seek therapy, take a stand for our children, and run.




StellaByStarlite -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 5:01:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

"Normal" individuals in this community may walk one another around on dog leashes, cut eachother and drink the blood, tie eachother up and beat them, and love all of it. It would be the general consensus of the world at large that she is unstable. This community, however, is phobic of passing judgment so readily to what may simply be a controlled and harmless kink.



Hello, CuriousLord. =)

Eating disorders are not harmless kinks, pro-eating disorder groups actively reach out to our daughter to teach them how to hide their disease from everybody else.




CuriousLord -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 5:38:26 AM)

To be blunt with you, I'm quite into the D/s dynamic, to the point of it being M/s.  However, I haven't adopted the s/m dynamic, nor do I think I'll ever, as it does not appeal to me.
However, I must reconize that this community supports the s/m dynamic, despite whatever reservations I may have in seeing it as potentially unhealthy with regards to edge play and breath play, despite the typical and, at times, considerable precautions taken.

Haven personally known some ana's before, I'm well aware of the potential dangers and apparent mental illness of the community.  Back when I was sixteen, one of my first and former subs was hospitalized due to numerous starvation-related issues (she dropped from about 155lbs to less than 77lbs).  She was on online communities, particularly from LiveJournal, where those who starved themselves took pictures of themselves, empathizing the "beauty" in seeing one's bones clearly through the skin and the 'utterly-disgusting' nature of seeing anything that resembled flab, even if that flab wasn't fat, such as an organ.  She was hospitalized for the better part of a year, having complications with keeping food down, blood sugar, blood pressure, maintaining consciousness, etc.  To some degree, the starvation drove her to madness.

This said, I can understand that it's considered an eatting disorder, and it can be distructive.  My point is simply that this community remains phobic of passing judgement when there may be a valid case.  And, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that some ana's just may a somewhat balanced life with the condition for reasons I can not hope to understand at this time.

Now, the whole promoting-it-to children thing, I would find objectionable.  Still, I place my faith in balanced inputs allowing for intelligent decisions, hoping that parents would educate their children well enough that a distant community would be unable to win over the family's influence.  Then again, I do realize this is idealistic and neglects the fact that such a community, even if it should be manevolent in  intent, would be able to target girls in broken and unloving homes; this would have to be addressed.




StellaByStarlite -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 6:02:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

To be blunt with you, I'm quite into the D/s dynamic, to the point of it being M/s.  However, I haven't adopted the s/m dynamic, nor do I think I'll ever, as it does not appeal to me.
However, I must reconize that this community supports the s/m dynamic, despite whatever reservations I may have in seeing it as potentially unhealthy with regards to edge play and breath play, despite the typical and, at times, considerable precautions taken.
There's a huge difference between the edge play in the bdsm community and the ana girls. For the most part, safety during edge play is a big consideration. There are outreach groups, books, lectures. I mean the safety information is right there for anybody who wants to reasearch it.
Compare that with ana groups, whose main objective is hiding an unsafe lifestyle. ( yes, anorexia and bulimia are lifestyles in that they take over your whole existence. )  Ana groups promote secrecy. They encourage the unstable mindset that drew these Ums to eating disorders in the first place.
Haven personally known some ana's before, I'm well aware of the potential dangers and apparent mental illness of the community.  Back when I was sixteen, one of my first and former subs was hospitalized due to numerous starvation-related issues (she dropped from about 155lbs to less than 77lbs).  She was on online communities, particularly from LiveJournal, where those who starved themselves took pictures of themselves, empathizing the "beauty" in seeing one's bones clearly through the skin and the 'utterly-disgusting' nature of seeing anything that resembled flab, even if that flab wasn't fat, such as an organ.  She was hospitalized for the better part of a year, having complications with keeping food down, blood sugar, blood pressure, maintaining consciousness, etc.  To some degree, the starvation drove her to madness.

This said, I can understand that it's considered an eatting disorder, and it can be distructive.  My point is simply that this community remains phobic of passing judgement when there may be a valid case.  And, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that some ana's just may a somewhat balanced life with the condition for reasons I can not hope to understand at this time.
How could there be a valid case for advocating anorexia? I think the OP's question was whether or not this chick was stable enough to be a domme. If she's part of an ana-group, then quite truthfully, no.. she's not stable enough.
Unless the OP can give us more information, I'll stand by answer. =)
Now, the whole promoting-it-to children thing, I would find objectionable.  Still, I place my faith in balanced inputs allowing for intelligent decisions, hoping that parents would educate their children well enough that a distant community would be unable to win over the family's influence.  Then again, I do realize this is idealistic and neglects the fact that such a community, even if it should be manevolent in  intent, would be able to target girls in broken and unloving homes; this would have to be addressed.
If this girl is really into ana, then her parents have initially lost the battle. Or she could be over 18, but that doesn't make a difference as to how mentally or emotionally stable she is. When all is said and done.. she's still part of a group that supports eating disorders.




MstrssPassion -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 6:10:06 AM)

I think the only thing it proves is that old saying is still valid in modern times.... Aesop was so wise

A fool & his money are soon parted




onestandingstill -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 7:10:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: viglione

i am new to the site i found this chick who is fierce looking she demanded that i pay her right away to even talk to her! she furnished proof that she was who she says she is. so i agreed to pay her then i google her email address it says she's in this pro ana nation...  my question is does this mean this chick is unstable? does it mean she is not a dominant?

Sounds like Jessica Power's back to me.
I'd run for the hills if I were you.




MariaB -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 7:20:08 AM)

Wow, I have never heard of this sort of group. I think I must have been living in the woodshed for too long!
This thread is a real eye opener to me.




AquaticSub -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 7:24:06 AM)

Eating disorders are not fetishes or harmless kinks. It's a kink of the mind that needs to be treated. She may indeed be a great pro-dominant, but I wouldn't get involved with anyone that claimed to be "pro anna". Considering that depriving the body of food dimishes brain capacity and hence makes it harder for the person to see why they should eat, even causing permant damage... I'd say "Fuck yes. She's unstable."




Casie -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 12:34:43 PM)

Having suffered from anorexia I can tell you from personal experince that yes she is unstable.  And I have to strongly disagree with this statement " Girls with eating disorders operate from a place of self-loathing. They're stuck in a vicious cycle of self-hatred/narcissism" Because that is not always the case, despite popular believe it isn't always because you think you are "fat" or you want to be skinny it is much more pyscholoigical than that. Often times it is a matter of control. For me it wasn't at all about being thin. It was feeling like my life was completely out of control and there was nothing I could do about (which at the time was true I couldn't do anything to fix it), So I latched on to the control and stabilty that I got from controling what went into to my, and the numbers on the scale. And being able to go long periods without food made me feel strong. I looked sick and gross because I was so thin and I knew it, it had nothing to do with vanity.Yes it all sounds very sick and it is. And if it weren't for meeting my master and him getting me into a rehablitation programn I probably wouldn't be alive today.  Ana Nation, is a proanorexic group, that promotes eating disorders, gives tips, and encourage young girls to have eating disorders, in my opion that group is a desease to young women and men everywhere. 




onestandingstill -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 1:04:56 PM)

Casie,
Thanks for sharing that, and Thank God your Master came along when he did.
I'm very happy to hear you have put that past you now and are flourishing.
suzanne




Casie -> RE: attractive overrides possible psycho? (4/17/2007 1:12:25 PM)

suzanne
No problem I just felt this was a subject that I had experince with and could elaborate on. :) !




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