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SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 6:48:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile Mmmm.. what about all the people role playing out Rape Fantasies for BDSM scenes? Or would you view them as Rapist as well? Of course not. But you don't actually have to molest a kid to be a pedophile. Having sexual fantasies about children is enough to make you a pedophile.

CuriousLord -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 6:50:04 AM)
Agreed. The point you're not getting across is why it's wrong to be a pedophile who doesn't rape, molest, or in any way harm children.

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 6:58:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord Agreed. The point you're not getting across is why it's wrong to be a pedophile who doesn't rape, molest, or in any way harm children. Pedophiles clearly need help, perhaps counselling. Firstly, they need to realize they can never act out on their fantasies. Are you seriously suggesting that we don't try to help pedophiles?

marylynn -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 6:59:51 AM)
Age play, I think, has to be the most controversial topic of any community. Gods, I wish I could get into this conversation (and I guess, in a way, I am..).. but I would piss off way too many people with my opinions ... not to mention that I'm new and not really into ticking that many people off. I agree with the original post, though, in saying "age play under the age of 18" is utterly disgusting.

CuriousLord -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:08:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 Pedophiles clearly need help, perhaps counselling. Why? If one is able to carry out his sexual preference with other consenting, satisfied adults, where's the problem?

CuriousLord -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:10:53 AM)
Good. Because I think knife play, which your profile says you live for, is disgusting. However, I'm not going to for a moment shove that in the faces of those who enjoy it. They're consenting adults . If it works for them, fine by me. I don't want any part of it- I don't want to be around when you're being cut up, or cutting someone up- and playing with blood, but I'm not going to start insulting you for your kink.

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:11:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 Pedophiles clearly need help, perhaps counselling. Why? If one is able to carry out his sexual preference with other consenting, satisfied adults, where's the problem? How can you possibly know a pedophile is safe without some form of counselling?

CuriousLord -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:18:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 How can you possibly know a pedophile is safe without some form of counselling? I'm a heterosexual. You're a woman. How do you know I'm safe without some form of counselling?

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:18:34 AM)
Megan, can you explain why rape fantasies are ok but fantasies about a younger person are not? Can you explain why acting out a sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be raped is ok, but acting out an sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be underage is not?

StellaByStarlite -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:21:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 How can you possibly know a pedophile is safe without some form of counselling? It's actually pretty simple. =) If an adult is living a reasonably decent life, and is able to function well enough without intent to harm, then that adult can go witout counseling.

onestandingstill -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:27:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord Agreed. The point you're not getting across is why it's wrong to be a pedophile who doesn't rape, molest, or in any way harm children. Pedophiles clearly need help, perhaps counseling. Firstly, they need to realize they can never act out on their fantasies. Are you seriously suggesting that we don't try to help pedophiles? I'd like to interject here that I think most are relating this conversation to the same like minded conversations they'd have about someone being gay. It's not these people intentionally are interested or attracted, it's more an instinctual thing much like being gay is. A person does not just wake up and say, hmmmm I'm going to get hot looking at an unmentionables panties, or when I see a baby at the park changed. It just Happens to them. I think recognizing they are drawn to this behavior and sexuality and turning it into an avenue where it benefits both adults is a sort of therapy. If you've ever not had a partner for a long time and have been so horny it's upset your balance and peace imagine that when it comes to these people and their urges. Sometimes you can't change your base urges, that's where we all fight our bad or negative habits. I could talk to someone about the fact I'm a nymph and run around cross eyed and horny as I'm not just plowing people all I want. It won't take away the desire, nor curb the impulses to think those thoughts. I indeed am impulsive in my mind, and have learned to not let that flow into my life unless it's a healthy choice for me. I feel these people are not promoting abuse, but rather expressing this part of them in the most emotionally undamaged way they know how. Don't judge those who use tremendous self restraint and live honorably as evil just because they are drawn to things you don't understand. suzanne

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:41:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 How can you possibly know a pedophile is safe without some form of counselling? I'm a heterosexual. You're a woman. How do you know I'm safe without some form of counselling? Your arguments are completely ridiculous. A pedophile is, by definition, mentally ill.

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:43:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Megan, can you explain why rape fantasies are ok but fantasies about a younger person are not? Can you explain why acting out a sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be raped is ok, but acting out an sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be underage is not? Because a person that has sexual fantasies about children is a pedophile.

WhiplashSmile -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:46:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Megan, can you explain why rape fantasies are ok but fantasies about a younger person are not? Can you explain why acting out a sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be raped is ok, but acting out an sex fantasy with an informed adult partner pretending to be underage is not? Because a person that has sexual fantasies about children is a pedophile. So a person that has sexual fantasties about raping somebody would not be a rapist in your book?

CuriousLord -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:49:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 How can you possibly know a pedophile is safe without some form of counselling? I'm a heterosexual. You're a woman. How do you know I'm safe without some form of counselling? Your arguments are completely ridiculous. A pedophile is, by definition, mentally ill. No, you just can't answer a second question. Also, while I haven't yet read a reputable journal refer to pedophilia as "mentally ill", I can assure you that most psycologists wouldn't speak quite highly of your liking to be cut open and bleed, hun. Should I, as a moral citizen, see that you get help for your strange mental illness? You so clearly need help.

WhiplashSmile -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:51:37 AM)
I can see it now.. a grown man walks in for therapy. Sits down and explains that he's a pedophile though he's never touched a child in that manner, and explains that he acts out age play scenes with his Girl that 28 years old. And his Girl has a fantasy for pretending to be a 13 year old girl it makes her feel really naughty and turns her on! Both the Man and his Girl enjoy doing this and have great sex. No childred are harmed at all.. So the Man goes into therapy, gets treated and his wonderful sex life goes with his GIRL goes to HELL..

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:53:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile So a person that has sexual fantasties about raping somebody would not be a rapist in your book? Of course not. A pedophile has sexual fantasies about children and does not actually have to carry out the act of child abuse to become a pedophile. A rapist is only a rapist once he has raped someone.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:57:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 A pedophile has sexual fantasies about children and does not actually have to carry out the act of child abuse to become a pedophile. A rapist is only a rapist once he has raped someone. So what makes one set of fantasies bad and one set of fantasies ok? Both are fantasies of violating anothers rights and bodies. Both are considered socially abhorrent. Both, when actually done, are legally punishable.

WhiplashSmile -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 7:59:46 AM)
Look in terms of BDSM stuff... Slavery is outlawed.. yet there a Slaves and Slave owners.. There people acting out Rape scenes.. There are people acting out Torture... There are people acting out Age Play scenes.. Student/Teacher and etc.. There are people acting out Doctor/Patient scenes.. Hell none of this if done in reality is legal. Now the only one the seems to hang up is you. Because when this is all done by concenting adults No crimes are happening!. I guess if you really stop and think about it... if you apply the standards of thinking you are trying to apply... Everybody in BDSM should seek out therapy for thier criminal fantasies/ This is all Fantasy! Dugh!... I can clearly see from reading the OPs profile, she even admits she is not experienced in this lifestyle even. Honey, there are people that think or had a fantasy about Killing somebody! Does this make them a danger to society. It's perfectly natural for everybody to have dark thoughts at times and have Dark Fantasies. Hell any Shrink will explain this to you!.. It's only a problem when somebody carries out these fantasies for Real and cause somebody harm. Now people in BDSM act these things out with one another... Really Simple concept to grasp!

SweetMegan20 -> RE: Age play - what do you think? (4/19/2007 8:02:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: SweetMegan20 A pedophile has sexual fantasies about children and does not actually have to carry out the act of child abuse to become a pedophile. A rapist is only a rapist once he has raped someone. So what makes one set of fantasies bad and one set of fantasies ok? Both are fantasies of violating anothers rights and bodies. Both are considered socially abhorrent. Both, when actually done, are legally punishable. Fantasizing about rape and fantasizing about sex with CHILDREN are two completely different things! Pedophiles need help, and quite frankly I am fed up with these ridiculous comparisons to other, perfectly healthy fantasies. Pedophiles are mentally ILL!! How many times do I have to repeat this? How many times are you going to repeat the same arguments?

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