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MasterMagnus321 -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 6:44:00 PM)

Intellectual stimulation is an absolute requirement for me.  In my mind is where it all begins, exists, ends, and begins again... none of you even exist... I have created all of you and all of this simply to keep myself company...




CuriousLord -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 6:51:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
...this thread has more than run it's course

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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
*edited of spelling - gawd I hate making a spelling error...


Heh.  I love you.  (its*)




Jevousadore -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 6:52:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

In reply to (lol) Jevousadore: hehe

Well I'm deranged cuz Ive spent waaaaay too many hours posting on here :) and the paddles are cuz I look good in black and purple hehe.


laughing......can I get off somewhere between "slightly twisted" and "one-stop-short-of-messed-up"?  And, you can have my paddles if I ever get any!

jevousadore




OedipusRexIt -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 7:03:29 PM)

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Heh.  I love you.  (its*)
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... well, let's just leave it there. 

Ya got me!  My most frequent oops, proving you're the better grammarian, speller, boy scout, whatever.

I love you too, babe.  Keep swinging.




CuriousLord -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 7:19:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
Ya got me!  My most frequent oops, proving you're the better grammarian, speller, boy scout, whatever.

I love you too, babe.  Keep swinging.


Damn straight you do.  Now give meh some lovin' before FukinTroll gets here.




raevnn -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 7:39:44 PM)

I cannot be attracted physically to someone unless I know them in some fashion.

I know this sounds utterly ridiculous, but I honestly feel nothing when say, a coworker points out a guy she thinks is cute.
If I speak to a person, however, and they have sexy (to me) qualities, then I begin to see them as physically attractive. Society, as a whole, might look at said person and say 'ick,' but I'll think they're hot if they can get my brain moving.

I tend to prefer men smarter than myself.
It's more of a turn on.

My Daddy is no exception.




velvetears -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 9:23:15 PM)

There are many qualities in a partner that are as as important, or perhaps more important,  than intelligence.  Intelligence with no sense of humor is boring. Compassion is important as well as having integrity, beaing able to communicate, having intuition, being creative all of which don't necessarily require intelligence.  Intelligence can be a draw back sometimes as well, if the person is so full of themselves they condescend to everyone around them. That is very unappealing to me.  One quality in a dominant man, that's a must for me, is confidence.  Usually intelligence breeds confidence but not always where relationships are concerned.  Some of the most insecure people i have known have  been the brightest people as well. 




juliaoceania -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 10:24:37 PM)

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Education basically means to me that someone has a good memory. I guess thats important..but a piece of paper itself  saying someone has completed a "course" means nothing to me. Ive met yogis sitting on the banks of the Ganges with more intelligence in their little finger than most people with degrees.


Well that is because a Yogi would be a very disciplined person that had been educated, just in a different school of knowledge than a Western university.

I am proud of my education and hope to have a doctorate one day, but I do not think this makes me more intelligent per se than a shaman in a village in the rain forest of Equador, or an Aborigine that knows all about Dream Time. I do think that stating that it is just a piece of paper that I earned is a bit dismissive of the nights I lost sleep, the research I performed, and the scholarship that I managed to accomplish. I spent years of my life invested heavily in learning and excelling, and I have some years left to go. I would never tell anyone that earned a black belt that this accomplishment meant little. I do not know why others tend to treat people that earn their degrees that they do not mean much. I earned mine as a single working mother, and I am the first in my entire family to have done so.




slavejali -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:05:46 PM)

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Well that is because a Yogi would be a very disciplined person that had been educated, just in a different school of knowledge than a Western university.


Intelligence means much more to me than book learning about a "subject". In my way of thinking actual intelligence comes with knowledge of self and the application of that knoweldge integrated into everyday life and all the reading and memorisation in the universe cannot accomplish that.

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 I do think that stating that it is just a piece of paper that I earned is a bit dismissive of the nights I lost sleep, the research I performed, and the scholarship that I managed to accomplish. .....I do not know why others tend to treat people that earn their degrees that they do not mean much. I earned mine as a single working mother, and I am the first in my entire family to have done so.


All of those qualities you used to accomplish what you have and will accomplish have nothing to do with that piece of paper that ends up in your hand or set of letters after your name. You could (and probably do) apply those same qualities to other areas of your life. The degree itself means nothing in my mind.

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I would never tell anyone that earned a black belt that this accomplishment meant little.


I would if after the person received a black-belt all they could do was some fancy moves and footwork.

Saying all that, education is cool, its fun to learn about things, its fun to learn how to do things, to gain skills etc etc etc...but I do not see it as a sign of any actual intelligence living within the consciousness of that individual.




juliaoceania -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:15:45 PM)

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Intelligence means much more to me than book learning about a "subject". In my way of thinking actual intelligence comes with knowledge of self and the application of that knoweldge integrated into everyday life and all the reading and memorisation in the universe cannot accomplish that.


In order to get a graduate degree, one has to be able to do more than memorize another person's work, just as a Yogi has to do more than memorize a few wise sayings... being disciplined does take some intelligence. I have not met many disciplined people without any

Edited for stupid spelling mistakes




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:29:19 PM)

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Every now and then I read a post from a thread that I think of later on.
This was a wonderful post and I thought of you today.
Thank you for sharing, you are a shining example of intellect.
You can have a genius IQ and not go/or delay going to  college for a variety of reasons.
Having a baby, etc.
You can also have a rich daddy, go to an Ivy League school, become President and not be able to spell cat.[;)]
Congratulations on using your mind and doing so well without a degree!
Bravo![;)]

 
Thanks Mia. I appreciate that. I really do.





slavejali -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:34:03 PM)

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In order to get a graduate degree, one has to be able to do more than memorize another person's work, just as a Yogi has to do more than memorize a few wise sayings... being disciplined does take some intelligence. I have not meant many disciplined people without any


Don't sweat it, its all good, we are just on different boats sailing in different directions (in regards to this topic).




ownedgirlie -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:43:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Saying all that, education is cool, its fun to learn about things, its fun to learn how to do things, to gain skills etc etc etc...but I do not see it as a sign of any actual intelligence living within the consciousness of that individual.


I think it depends on the individual.  While I have not yet earned my degree and still run circles around others at work with Master Degrees, I have been ordered to go back to school to finish my Bachelors.  There has been nothing "fun" about writing a paper at 2am on my laptop while sitting next to my Dad's hospital bed...nothing "fun" about missing out on all sorts of excursions with friends, nothing "fun" about staying up until 3am 4 nights in a row yet having to go to work at 8am, just to study for a Stats exam...etc. 

I have a new found respect for those who are dedicated enough to commit to staying the course and doing what it takes to complete a degree.  It will mean far more than "just a piece of paper" for me, particularly when everyone around me keeps encouraging me to quit or "just post-pone it" while I'm dealing with other life stresses.

I understand more than anyone all the hurdles toward NOT earning a degree.  I have faced enough to keep me out of school for the last 20 years.  But I believe earning a degree is much more than simply learning what one learns in each individual class.  There is a bigger picture of staying the course, dedication, learning to research and back up a statement (still learning that one, heh), and expanding one's mind into areas never before ventured (which I understand can be achieved by other means as well).  I will never again knock the dedication it takes to achieve an education.

Now, I will still contend that there are many degreed people whom I can still run circles around.  But I don't diminish what they have been able to accomplish.  For me, I'm finding nothing fun about school, but it is challenging, hard, and rewarding.




slavejali -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/19/2007 11:56:36 PM)

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(which I understand can be achieved by other means as well)


That's my point when saying the "degree itself" means nothing. I'm not knocking people at all who persue an academic path in life..and am fully aware of everything it takes to "go the course"...all I'm saying is "intelligence" to me is more of a "spiritual quality" if you like..a "state of concsiousness or being in the world"..its not academic to me and has nothing to do with if a person can spell or not.

There is no way in hell I'm gonna state, "someone with a degree is more intelligent than someone without one or vice versa"...a degree cannot measure intelligence as I know it.

Hope that makes it clearer.[:D]




ownedgirlie -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 12:09:37 AM)

I think for me the actual degree, as in the piece of paper which displays it, will be a symbol of accomplishment against all odds.  So to me personally it will have meaning.

I also believe there are various levels and degrees of intelligence.  Educational intelligence is but one area.  Then again I respect anyone who has stayed a tough course to achieve a set goal.  While I do not use education as a measuring stick, I am not going to knock someone for it, either (not suggesting you are doing that, btw).  I might, however, think someone with a degree is more educated than someone without, and I'm not going to knock someone who finds value in that (again, not suggesting you are doing that). 

For what it's worth, I know some brilliant people who have never stepped foot on a college campus.  I agree that intelligence is not measured by academia.

I will also say when my Master starts quoting the great poets and referencing eras in history I still know nothing about, I swoon, just swoon, lol. 

But yes, your post was clear...thanks!




slavejali -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 12:17:34 AM)

Well ..I suppose I have to admit, it is relaxing to be able to converse with someone who can put a sentence together too *grin*




darkinshadows -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 2:37:38 AM)

Hello Jeavousadore.
 
Thank you for your kind comment.
Sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday as I went offline.
 
The icecreams / paddles / triskels / handcuffs etc correspond to the amounts of posts also... the paddles for example start off as one and increase as posts increase.
 
The moderators / owners of the site designed it this way but not entirely sure why - it is just a 'fun' thing.
I believe a loooong while back, there was a little playful 'competition' of sorts and some of the regular posters gained other names from suggestions made due to the way they posted or based on remarks from others and I think that occasionally happens still but with the persons consent.
 
Hope this info assisted you.
 
Peace and Rapture




darkinshadows -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 2:44:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
...this thread has more than run it's course

quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
*edited of spelling - gawd I hate making a spelling error...


Heh.  I love you.  (its*)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
Ya got me!  My most frequent oops, proving you're the better grammarian, speller, boy scout, whatever.

I love you too, babe.  Keep swinging.


Damn straight you do.  Now give meh some lovin' before FukinTroll gets here.

I find the intellect of two such beautiful Egos falling in love so romantic.[;)]
Now excuse me whilst you both go get a room and I shall fly away before I someone decides on a punishment...[sm=flying.gif]
 
Peace and Rapture
 
(edit* because my spelling sucks too - often)
 




CuriousLord -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 2:52:16 AM)

You should've run faster.. I've figured out your punishment already.  You get sloopy seconds on him.  [:D]




Jevousadore -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/20/2007 2:52:56 AM)

Thank you, darkinshadows.  Now I can quit wondering and move on to other things! 

jevousadore




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