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BondageTopJere -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/20/2007 5:42:28 PM)

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, I have left my urban setting to live in deepest darkest suburbia, I 


I'll burn before I ever live in a cookie cutter suburb.  There be sumthin awful strange about them folks.  The rural area where I live has got its downsides, but at least I can't see my neighbor through the identical window in our identical house *Shudders*

As for the OP, suprisingly a lot.  I know that I've got a bunch of bad habits, smoking for instance, that I would give up if it improved our lives together. Shared happiness is more important than individual happiness, and while I know with a certainty that I could continue some of them if I so desired, what would be the point if it decreased our shared happiness and satisfaction with life?  Subs opinions are important, for me in paticular, its how I get feedback in order to improve myself, and by improving myself, I can continue to improve the quality of our relationship.



HutchGarahl -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/21/2007 7:35:16 AM)

Good question op....so far the only thing i've ever given up for a slave/sub was smoking. Although I have restarted since I am alone once again. However....the slave I am in the proccess of trying to obtain now is highly allergic to cats. I have 2....so as opposed to him having to take medication the rest of his life should I collar him....I have told him the cats will remain with my girlfriend.



LaTigresse -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/21/2007 8:16:13 AM)

What an odd thought. What would I give up? Nothing.

I would perhaps make changes in my life depending on the importance to either her or I.

Example: I considered moving to another country for someone once. I didn't view it as giving up anything but as a chance to enrich my life. Or, the same woman was vegetarian. I certainly would not have given up eating a good rare steak but I would refrain from eating it in front of her knowing it would have turned her stomach to watch. I don't hate vegetarian type meals, in fact I often go for days without eating meat, but I won't give it up.

I would never give up anything that mattered to me but I will be considerate of her needs.



TheManInCharge -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/21/2007 5:52:52 PM)

xBullX, Hats off to you. Couldn't have said it better.



blushingflower -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/21/2007 6:26:44 PM)

I'm intrigued by the people who say they don't give up anything.  We always give up something, that's part of being in a relationship.  It's called opportunity cost- everything comes at a price, even the things that are free.  Now, sometimes, what we sacrifice is so miniscule compared to what we gain that it doesn't feel like a sacrifice.  And maybe the things that we give up are things we don't really want.
If you consider that submission is a gift that is given freely, it changes the question slightly. Sometimes, though, we still have to do something to make the gift work. To maintain the relationship, you do occasionally give things up, because you make decisions based on what is best for the relationship, not necessarily what you want for yourself alone.  Maybe you don't go out with your friends after work because you promised your girl a good flogging.  Maybe you enjoy flogging your girl more than going out with your friends, but it still cost you something. 
Having your girl sleep beside you every night means you give up having the whole bed to yourself.
The money you spend buying toys for the two of you, food for the two of you, gifts for her, etc. could have been spent on something else.  Maybe instead of buying a gigantic plasma screen you bought a corset, some cuffs and a pretty day collar for your girl.  The latter might please you more in the long run, but there's still an opportunity cost involved. 
It doesn't mean you're giving something up in the sense that you're losing out, it just means you're making choices.



fingerman075 -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 7:22:04 AM)

we all give up thing with its for a sub or not,now ive got a few,none of them collar as you would haveit ,here on this list,but ill tell you thing a give up are given freely,some days i want too play but they have other thing they must do like pay there bills,or go shoping yes i will take them shoping,too the doctors,or go the the school and act like there kids father,when they dont have one.when we do find time or the place,im the top dog,they the ones listing too what i want them too do.i gave up a days pay,to have our fun



MrDiscipline44 -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 8:12:57 AM)

In order for something to be considered a sacrifice, it has to have some value to the person in question. If that thing has no value to that person, then it is not a sacrifice.



jaunty1 -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 8:43:21 AM)

Hello
 
I have given up nothing to own her. She's the property, not me.
 
Live well
 
Alex



MasterGremlin -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 10:40:36 AM)

Master gave up peace and quiet.....then He bought a ball gag [sm=crop.gif]

But seriously, I don't think Master "gave up" anything.  He did have to "incorporate" me into His life, which made goals and objectives change, especially since I came with 2 "tag-alongs" and a dog. 

Sincerely,
minxy [:)]



Padriag -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 10:43:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Greetings,

Set down the bong and slowly step away. If you are giving up things to own, you are owned, you surrendered your freedom to exist as the master, so enough said on that. If you have the girl for you, she will enhance your life and not detract from it, stop using the threads to troll for chickies and advertise yourself.

Bull

Ditto

I will not give up anything to own a slave.



myobedience -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 10:52:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Greetings,

Set down the bong and slowly step away. If you are giving up things to own, you are owned, you surrendered your freedom to exist as the master, so enough said on that. If you have the girl for you, she will enhance your life and not detract from it, stop using the threads to troll for chickies and advertise yourself.

Bull

Ditto

I will not give up anything to own a slave.

BRAVO  !!
THERE ARE INCREDIBLE MEN IN THIS WORLD BESIDES MY SIR !! 



myobedience -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 11:01:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kinkypupper

(While I do like XbullX's reply...)
One should NOT give up anything to own a slave.
The slave however does give up "self".
And Why do they do this:
a. The inner desire to be controlled and to submit.
b. To want more in a relationship then just a marriage.
c. To trust and be trusted without reservation.
d. To not have to worry or make choices.
e. To serve

anything else is just "stuff"



a-e are NOT the self of any woman !!
Personally, I retain self, for that is the woman I am, the woman He chose and the submissive I am.
I choose a-e because of my strong sense of self ~ a submissive woman, who is not submissive to anyone but Him.



ErusUxor -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 11:15:24 AM)

While I can agree with the concept (theoretically)...the way it is presented in a case or two  leaves a bit to be desired.

My Master "gives up" nothing in owning me. To give up something indicates an undesirable  loss.

Example: He has choosen to forgo being with other women sexually or in any form of play because He wants monogamy from me and I from him... Is this "giving up"? Or simply deciding that he does not want to see the look of anguish on my face, were he to be intimate with others. He knows it would destroy me emotionally and therefor "giving up" (in the context it seems to be used by xBullx ) is a simple matter of Master  having the choice to not pursue certain "freedoms".  This does not make him "owned" in the D/s sense...as he has the power to do what he pleases....but in this cause it pleases him to give all of his sexuality to me , his slave. I do not demand this...there is no need....I don't even ask for his fidelity...he "gives up" his ability to have others because he does not want them and because he chooses not to do something he knows would cause me heartache.

He knows I am posting this and is offended by the notion that this "giving up" makes him any less the Master....and anything that smacks of an insult to my Master...I will stand against.



ErusUxor -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 11:38:50 AM)

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Master gave up peace and quiet.....then He bought a ball gag [sm=crop.gif]

But seriously, I don't think Master "gave up" anything.  He did have to "incorporate" me into His life, which made goals and objectives change, especially since I came with 2 "tag-alongs" and a dog. 



From Erus:  I'll toss in my 2 cents worth here as well.  I think "give up" here is more a matter of semantics.  When one has more than one path presented before you, you're making a choice on which path will make you most happy, fulfilled, etc.  I don't see that as having to "give up" the other path, just as choosing the one I decide is best for me.  I chose the path of ownership of my slave, and of both marital and D/s monogamy because I just absolutely have no wish whatever to share her with anyone, nor to share what I give her with anyone.  To me, that makes "us" both of our life's priority, and I just can't see that as giving up anything at all.  While there are a lot of good people out there one might chose to play with, this one is mine, in life and love.  I've walked the other path in my life and condemn no one who makes that choice, but now I have made a concious choice to walk this path.  All that she gives to me is mine and mine alone, just as all I give to her is hers, and that takes it to a wonderful and supremely fulfilling new level. 



RavenMuse -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 12:00:32 PM)

Give up to Own her? Nothing

Give up because it would cause her harm for Me to continue.... I am Poly, My girl is Mono.... acting on being poly would currently harm her... I don't HARM My possessions so I CHOOSE to not act on being Poly for now. If we ever get to where it wouldn't cause her harm then I shall reconsider.



MadRabbit -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 5:43:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

Give up to Own her? Nothing

Give up because it would cause her harm for Me to continue.... I am Poly, My girl is Mono.... acting on being poly would currently harm her... I don't HARM My possessions so I CHOOSE to not act on being Poly for now. If we ever get to where it wouldn't cause her harm then I shall reconsider.



This is kind of what I was getting at.

I wont give up anything to have a slave in the context of "Well, if you want to be with me, you have to change X, Y, and Z in your lifestyle."

Sorry, doesnt work like that.

However, if I had to, lets say, work longer hours to ensure I had the money to pay for the cost of living of having another person under my roof, then that would be a sacrifice I would have to make to meet my responsibility as the dominant.

There is a difference between giving things up to own a slave and sacrificing things to take care of your responsibilities of having one.




MstrssPassion -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/29/2007 5:58:44 PM)

I shouldn't, wouldn't & refuse to give up a damn thing.

I didn't & I now have the best submissive ever.

**oh, I take that back... I gave up on settling for anything less than best. Does that count?



Stranger1 -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/30/2007 6:57:50 AM)

I'd probably have to give up being alone.

As for the rest, why have a slave who won't work with your happiness?



MasterSohun -> RE: What would you give up to own your sub/slave?? (4/30/2007 8:16:24 AM)

ill begin my reply with what i gave Up for a slave!i gave up normalicy,although i was leaving that shore behind when i met my first slave girl,i also gave up fear of the unknown to be with her,that was a lesson learned.i had never been in a real master slave realation before her.now i had been a Dom but this was a long term situation with her,so the day yo day might have made me dtop but i went into the great unknown.what i would give up now,i live free in the world ,travel alot and meet interesting persons,now im always hunting for my next slave girl.my last went to bussiness college 5 years ago,i havent taken another since!i would give up the travel,the best case scenario is though she goes with me.but i would give it up to be with  the right one.



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