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RE: Is it submission - 4/21/2007 12:17:22 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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Service does not necessarily equal submission.

Authority is what is key for me. If you are doing those things because you are under anothers authority and it has been decided you will do those things as part of being under their authority, then it's submission.

Master serve and clean all the time- that doesn't mean they are being submissive.

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RE: Is it submission - 4/24/2007 11:48:32 PM

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Sorry... cancel this. i think it deserves it's own thread...

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RE: Is it submission - 4/25/2007 4:19:51 AM

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Once you have submitted it takes on a diffrent meaning. you are no longer doing it just for you, but for Him, wether it meets your standards or not is irrelivant, you should be doing as good a job of it as you can manage in the time so it will not only meet His standards and expectations but that He will notice the extra effort you put in, how hard you try even on the little everyday things.... it is not so much what the chore IS but the amount of effort and attitude toward doing so in service that makes the big diffrence to Me.

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RE: Is it submission - 4/25/2007 7:01:44 AM

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The difference for me is who i do it for. When Master isnt here........... i do it for me. When i make the bed, i do it because i want my bed made.... and i dont always want the bed made.

Yet when Master is coming or is here - i do it all for him. i look at everything with HIS eyes. "Is the bed just perfect, would he like it?" The dishes i see in the sink are no longer dishes..... they are a blemish that HE will see...... the folded clothes on my couch waiting patiently to be put away are no longer a nuisance i need to motivate to put away - but a blemish and an obsticle to a couch he might want to sit on....

The bathroom may be clean....... but if there is a strand from the bath mat on the tile......... its a blemish HE will see. I dont do his laundry anymore (or rarely) but when i do mine and hang it up, i still think about how he specifically likes his laundry done and i do mine that way, because i can be a dweeb.

What will he think and see when he walks through here? Will his eyes land on a mess (and he doesnt like a mess), will his eyes land on something dirty, or will his eyes land on everything being neat, ship shape clean perfect and absolutetly comfie for him?

i think its who you think about when you are doing "chores". Who are you doing them for? Why are you doing them?

IMO - this isnt really submission to me either. Its not submission when i fix a dinner i know he likes and its not submission when i get a wild hair up my bottom and steam clean his car seats. i am not really asked to do any of it. i do it becuse i enjoy it, because i know it makes him happy.

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RE: Is it submission - 4/25/2007 7:34:32 AM

slavegirljoy

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Just ask yourself these questions to decide if what you are doing is an act of submission or not.

1) WHO is it i am doing this for? Am i doing this for my Master or for myself? Would i be doing this if my Master didn't want me to do it? Am i doing this because this is what my Master wants me to do or is it because i want to do it? (Note: If you want to do it primarily because you know that your Master wants you to do it, it is still being submissive, even though you might want to do it anyway.)

2) WHY am i doing this? Is it for my satisfaction or is it for my Master's satisfaction? (Note: The activity can satisfy both but, the way i see it, if the primary goal of the activity is for your own satisfaction then it isn't an act of submission, and if the primary goal is in order to please your Master then it is an expression of submissiveness to Him.)

For me it really doesn't matter what it is i am actually doing. It is my state of mind and my attitude of being submissive to my Master all the time that really matters.

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RE: Is it submission - 4/25/2007 9:21:38 AM

bliss1

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When cleaning a home for a Dom I find that simple things change versus when I am alone.

He may like the towels folded differently than I would normally. Or prefer one brand over another. When doing things around the house, I always keep in mind how would he like it done - therefore it becomes more than just a household thing, but a way to show him I am serving him in his home.

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