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Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:30:08 AM   
Musicmystery


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I'm increasingly concerned about the zest with which fundamentalists ban books, even seemingly innocuous selections. Give 'er a read...

http://writingtrue.blogspot.com/2007/04/harry-potter-and-banning-of-books.html

Enjoy,

Tim

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:35:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		While they're banned, anyone can get them.

Why try

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:40:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		in this age of computers, dvds, and gaming systems, it amazes me that someone would critize anything that has children putting down technology and picking up a book. the harry potter series has made reading popular again. when was there ever a time that a 9 year old attempted to read a 500 page book of their own free will? this popular work of fiction has increased and improved upon the literacy skills of our children. i'd put them on every doorstep like the phone book.
although i do know quite a few people who use the banned book list to choose  reading selections. any way you look at it, these books get read.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 9:03:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		     Ahhhhh.  They're always trying to ban something.  It mostly backfires.  I'm reminded of a Mike Royko column where he begged Jerry Falwell etc. to denounce his book, try to block the release, burn it in the streets.  He needed the money a best-seller would generate and the publisher was going cheap on the ad campaign.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 9:28:14 AM   
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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 11:35:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I once heard it said somewhere that if we allow them to burn books today, they will burn people tomorrow.  Anyone else ever heard this analogy?  Make sense to you, too?

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 12:29:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		When will the religious zealots (any religion) learn the correct way to keep control of the masses? You distract them with things like shock jocks saying shocking things, bratty movies stars over dosing, and getting them to watch only religious news casts.

Psshhhh. You would think they would learn by now.

Seriously though, our freedoms and liberties are being attacked from all sides in the US, and the enemy is not foreign. Will the American people stand together and fight, or will they faction out and pretend they are cheerleaders in a football game?


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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 2:46:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Hi folks,
I'm increasingly concerned about the zest with which fundamentalists ban books, even seemingly innocuous selections.
Tim

Those who call for any book to be banned always amaze me.  Just because they choose not to read it seems to indicate to them that no one should be permitted to.  i always loved this quote about censorship:
 
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it" - Mark Twain
 
Seems to sum it up quite well, i think...........luci

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:05:42 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Believe me even in Georgia this woman is considered a nutjob by almost everyone I know.
She lives in the next county and has lost the case 3 times now as I recall
Schoolboard, county court and State court all ruled against her.


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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:08:57 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Oooppsss I thought the news of the case here in GEorgia had made a bigger splash and was on the other side of the link, LOL
Well our local case was a woman who has lost 3 or 4 times.
Glad the folks making the decissions had a brain.


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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:17:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: goodlittlegirl28

in this age of computers, dvds, and gaming systems, it amazes me that someone would critize anything that has children putting down technology and picking up a book. the harry potter series has made reading popular again. when was there ever a time that a 9 year old attempted to read a 500 page book of their own free will? this popular work of fiction has increased and improved upon the literacy skills of our children. i'd put them on every doorstep like the phone book.
although i do know quite a few people who use the banned book list to choose  reading selections. any way you look at it, these books get read.


I agree exactly.

Edited to add:  That goes for you, too, Arpig.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:20:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Years ago, the New York Times Book Review did a piece on banned books and published a list of frequently targeted works. I was hugely amused to see that almost all of them has been assigned reading at my Catholic high school!

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 8:44:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		"this popular work of fiction has increased and improved upon the literacy skills of our children."

Of course it has -- that's part of why it is seen as a threat.  The idea that good could come from something they don't agree with is odious to pro-censorship folks. 

I've also heard it suggested that promoting skills like literacy and critical thinking are not really on the top of the agenda for folks who would rather tell others what to think.

My 2 cents. 

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 10:01:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where exactly are these books banned?  Not in America.  Some books with unpopular poltiical/historical views are banned in much of the EU.  Basically some people are saying to not read these books, other people are saying they are great, who cares. They are not banned.  Iran on the other hand pays bounties to kill blasphemous authors.  Lets try to keep a little perspective here.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 10:03:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		And lets not forget that a segment of the left tries to get books pulled from schools and libraies here in America.  Huck Finn is usually at the top of that list.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/21/2007 10:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Where exactly are these books banned? "

Um, I didn't say any books were banned anywhere.  I made mention of pro-censorship folks (people who would *like* to ban books) and people who would prefer to tell others what to think. 

However, books are sometimes "banned," or effectively banned, by being removed from school libraries, curricula and reading lists either officially or unofficially.  Unofficial "bans" also can and do occur by the power of boycott or threatened boycott, such as the ones rumored to have occurred against major booksellers by certain churches in regards to everything from Playboy and Green Egg magazines to books on sex or other controversial topics.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/22/2007 12:19:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Where exactly are these books banned?  Not in America.  Some books with unpopular poltiical/historical views are banned in much of the EU.  Basically some people are saying to not read these books, other people are saying they are great, who cares. They are not banned.  Iran on the other hand pays bounties to kill blasphemous authors.  Lets try to keep a little perspective here.


What are these banned books? The only banned book I have heard about in the EU is Mein Kampf in Germany. I don't agree with it but given their history I can understand it.

I'm waiting to be enlightened.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/22/2007 1:09:42 AM   
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RE: Banning Books - 4/22/2007 1:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		At one time in the UK someone tried to get the Famous Five books by Enid Blyton banned as they encouraged children to run off on adventures without telling their parents and encouraged them to speak to strangers!! Thankfully sense won over. I for one read all of them when I was growing up and they did me no harm....... hm or did they

So now we just have to put up with the madness of those that banned the "Ba Ba Black Sheep" nursery rhymme in case it upset black people and all the other politically correct nonsense that comes up regularly.

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RE: Banning Books - 4/22/2007 1:58:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah Meat, that and Neo Nazi stuff.  One just got convicted for his writings on holocoust denial.  Isn't it more than just Germany?  I stand corrected if wrong.  If there was ever a candidate for an idea to ban, it would be that, but I philosophically disagree with the idea of banning ideas.  Not being in a library or elementary school is not banning.

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