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jack1966 -> submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 11:37:02 AM)
as a submissive, i believe a submissive to be capable of submiting to either a Mistress or a Master, irrespective of whether the sub thinks of him or herself as straight, bi or gay. has anyone any thoughts on this? for example i consider myself a submissive straight male but am now so curious about being enslaved by a Black Master.

szobras -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 11:53:45 AM)
I do not believe the transfer of authority to be gender specific. The rest will soley depend on personal preferences and the agreement of the relationship.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 11:55:51 AM)
I know an example of every combination of sexual orientation available. I know an example of almost all combinations of gender identity. It might be uncommon in your backyard, but in the national community, it's not at all uncommon. Master Fire

Suleiman -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:06:39 PM)
::rolls eyes, looks up at sky, invokes the heavens:: Bright Goddess! ANOTHER thread about "twue submittives"?!? You'd think these folks would just use the search function or something... ::puts on game face, tries to stay pleasant:: A person submits because it is in them to submit, and they always have the choice to submit. "Submissive" is a convenient catch-all term for any person who prefers to take the passive - i.e. submissive - role in a relationship that uses the dominant/submissive dynamic. It's good that you have taken the time to seriously consider the nature of your own desire to submit, but it is inappropriate to apply your motives to anyone other than yourself. Okay, sweetie? Now run along and start a thread on "finding the One".

imthatacheyouhav -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:16:36 PM)
quote: ::rolls eyes, looks up at sky, invokes the heavens:: Bright Goddess! ANOTHER thread about "twue submittives"?!? if i'm a true submissive and wear a padded bra?...am i a true submissive with falsies?

Suleiman -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:17:55 PM)
No, dear. You're a true submissive with False Threads!

marieToo -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:18:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jack1966 as a submissive, i believe a submissive to be capable of submiting to either a Mistress or a Master, irrespective of whether the sub thinks of him or herself as straight, bi or gay. has anyone any thoughts on this? for example i consider myself a submissive straight male but am now so curious about being enslaved by a Black Master. I understand your sentiments to a great extent. I don't concern myself much with a man's sexuality being compatible to my own when I consider submission, because I don't much care. In fact, as a heterosexual female, I could easily serve a gay man who I knew was never going to want me for sex. The questions would be "do I feel submissive to this person" "do I feel the need to worship and serve this person?" etc. I could easily enter into a relationship as a submissive knowing from the get-go that I would never be used sexually. As long as I felt drawn to that person and felt a particular need and desire to serve them in some way. It doesn't much matter to me if they use me for sexual pleasure, or have me pull the garden weeds. It is rare that I even cross the path of someone that I feel this way for, but it has happened several times and I can honestly say that sex (or lack thereof) did not play a part for me. This is not to suggest that I don't have a sex drive or sexual desires. It just means that I don't have to have those needs or desires met in order to be a good S-type to someone. I doubt race would play a part for me either. I've never been submissive or felt submissive to someone other than my own race, however I think that is more incidental than planned. I think I could submit to a different race if I felt a draw to that person. The same gender would be tough for me though, as I have a very hard time viewing females as authority figures, but even that I would never say 'never' about.

peterK50 -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:43:14 PM)
God Bless you jack1966. This has been my contention from day one. A sub is a sub, a Dom/me is a Dom/me. Preferences are just details not definitions.

igor2003 -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 12:57:24 PM)
I consider myself to be very submissive toward anyone that i decide to submit to. However, i do still date vanilla women. My real desire, though, is to serve a dominant woman. Not all women are dominant, and i don't feel submissive to all women, nor do i feel submissive to ALL dominant women. And i definitely do not have submissive tendencies, needs, or desires toward any man. I suppose that someone is going to come along and say that i'm not a "true" submissive because i do date vanilla, and because i don't submit to every Dom, Dick or Mary that comes along. I don't see it that way. Every individual has his or her own reason for being dominant or submissive. I don't want to marry every vanilla woman that comes along, and i don't feel the need to submit to every Dominant woman that comes along. And since i am hetero i don't want to marry any vanilla man that comes along, and i don't desire to to submit to any dominant man that comes along. That is just me. If your own desire is to submit to any dominant man or woman, or all dominant men and women, that is just you. No right or wrong about it. As far as serving a person of a particular nationality....i definitely have a fondness for Asian women, but of the women that i have served my favorite was a black woman. However, in "searching" i don't look for women of any particular nationality or race.

mp072004 -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/21/2007 1:01:42 PM)
Sure, you can enter into an agreement of inequal authority, service, obedience, whatever you want to call it, with anybody who will make that agreement with you. Sexual compatibility doesn't enable or disable your ability to do d/s. Sexual orientation, like other preferences, might impact your choice of d/s partners. Being bisexual, I don't spend a lot of time checking whether a person is the appropriate gender for me, and too, I mostly approach d/s and SM as nonsexual activities. I suppose that's why I don't see this subject as a big deal. Monica

TheShadows -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/22/2007 12:57:52 PM)
Amen. ~MrsShadows~

Celeste43 -> RE: submission to a Mistress and Master (4/22/2007 7:00:53 PM)
There is no should in the human heart. You can bottom to male and female, great for you. You can sub to male or female, great for you. I can't. I can't even play with someone I'm not strongly attached to, forget about subbing. And I can't separate play from sex either. Luckily I bottom and sub to a man I love who also can't top or dom a woman he doesn't have feelings for. That makes us compatible, it makes you compatible with neither of us. And as long as we all know what's going on, that's all that matters.

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