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Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 12:50:09 PM

szobras

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Certainly I would consider that the importance and range of a partner’s spiritual path, beliefs, and outlook will vary depending on the nature of the relationship we are in or seeking.

How important is it to you? What aspects are important to you?
Is it in the basic principles, the integrity to follow their beliefs? The openness to perhaps, realize those beliefs may change over time? Or even so much that you may feel that you must practice the same path. Does it even matter?

I have felt strong spiritual connections with some that were not practicing the same path as I. I do not find that a spiritual journey cannot be shared even by walking two different paths. For me it is that they are open to share it. Open to learn about mine. Basic beliefs may change. I seek similar spiritual principles practiced. I find importance in that there is a desire to seek their spiritual self.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 12:53:11 PM

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It's important that their beliefs and practices will not cause a conflict with mine and that they will not try to change mine.

Otherwise, not really any big deal to me.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 12:57:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

It's important that their beliefs and practices will not cause a conflict with mine and that they will not try to change mine.

Otherwise, not really any big deal to me.

I'm finding that more and more this is true for me. I'd thought I needed someone to be spiritual in order for me to feel connected to them spiritually or for the relationship to be powerful for me. I should have known better. So, already I'm changing the manual. LOL

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 12:59:17 PM

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Not at all important to me, so long as there is good, ethical conduct. I'm not even sure I care which brand of ethics... all the classics will do.

Oh, and don't preach at me. You can tell me about your views, and I'll tell you about mine, but no preaching...

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 1:01:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

It's important that their beliefs and practices will not cause a conflict with mine and that they will not try to change mine.

Otherwise, not really any big deal to me.

I think this fits my feelings perfectly.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 1:05:53 PM

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Ha @ MasterFireMaam.

I have found with my partners that I tend to want to learn and celebrate their faith and practices as a way of coming closer to them and knowing where they come from better. But that's more just one more thing for us to share and enjoy together. I wouldn't be upset if they didn't want me to participate due to some need for "purity" or felt weird about it.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 1:10:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Ha @ MasterFireMaam.

I have found with my partners that I tend to want to learn and celebrate their faith and practices as a way of coming closer to them and knowing where they come from better. But that's more just one more thing for us to share and enjoy together. I wouldn't be upset if they didn't want me to participate due to some need for "purity" or felt weird about it.

Right. I've never required that their spirituality match mine. But, I have required that they have SOME kind of spirituality. However, I have two subs/slaves with whom I've connected who aren't spiritual, in their minds. So...I gotta revise. Fortunately, I had the foresight to push the idea that the manual isn't written in stone and will be a fluid document. *chuckle*

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 3:08:19 PM

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My lack of spirituality and religion shape a big portion of my caracter, my outlook and my way of thinking. So although I wouldn't dismiss a partner because of their faith, my experience tells me that I am less likely to "click" with that person. So of course I do think of this when choosing a partner.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 6:12:48 PM

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I see Spiritually and Religion as only one form of a Spiritual connection.
I fully believe it transends even the Atheist when the energy is right.
It isnt something easily ignored and something I cherish.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 6:35:59 PM

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for me, it's the opposite of la and masterfire...in my previous relationship, i had the experience of being fine with spiritual differences as long as my previous dominant could accept them as well. in my relationship now, our spiritual connection and shared belief is perhaps the most important aspect of our relationship and provides the ground for everything else. we do not have the exact same spiritual path, but the things we do share are a major part of our spirituality and our relationship. however...this wasn't something i consciously thought about when first getting involved with Him; it's something that has evolved over time and it's a process of growth for both of us. it has, though, led me to a place where i wouldn't seek a d/s relationship without the shared spiritual aspect, although i can't imagine finding another dominant with whom it's as fundamental as it is to us.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 6:56:24 PM

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I would like to be a really big person and say that as long as they aren't preaching the religion doesn't really matter, but if I were looking I would be looking for a nonchristian at this point in my life. I'm not saying it would be completely impossible, but I feel strongly about not having that influence with young UMs in the house. There is a lot of guilt involved with the religion, especially where I live, and I don't want my UMs having the same experiences that I did as a child. If I had someone that I couldn't discuss my spiritual life with, it would be a major issue for me, and I can't see getting involved with someone who I wouldn't want to hear from in that way. It really wouldn't be fair to them.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 7:08:05 PM

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My Daddy and I do not have the same beliefs. At times we talk and we have a connection about our spirituality, but I do not think we believe the same thing exactly. The important thing is the utmost respect we have for each other's beliefs. We have some very key things in common when it comes to spirituality that were deal breakers for me. He is not a zealot, he is tolerant of other beliefs, he is not a "Christian" like most people think of that term. He does not have a religion. I am repelled by people who think they have the one true way when it comes to anything, most especially to religion. I may respect their belief, I just do not want to be intimate with them...

So yes, spirituality can be a deal breaker for me, but I am tolerant of people who are tolerant to me.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 8:27:34 PM

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szobras,

i agree with everything you stated in your OP. It is extremely important to me...

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/23/2007 10:08:03 PM

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My gratitude to those who have shared thier views, and in advance to those that still may.
Regardless of which path we are on. Whatever thier faith and beliefs, I believe it is the commonality of the principles that people choose to practice in thier lives that gives us a common ground with certain people that we desire to share our lives with.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/24/2007 4:57:07 AM

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Sir and i are not the same spiritually. i have my beliefs, and He has His. where W/we do overlap nicely is in sense of Honor, respect for one another's beliefs, and deep affection.

having a healthy communication between one another helps, too.

kitten, who either needs to wake up fully or develop a taste for coffee.....

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/24/2007 5:02:37 AM

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Love is Roman Catholic (disagrees with parts of the current theological out look) and is very spiritual. Well there’s me; I’m non-religious (in an organized religion sense), along with non-spiritual (in a traditional sense). I have my own ethical-philosophical belief system, which works pretty darn well. So for us it isn’t important, all he wants for us to get married in the Catholic Church; which I really have no problem with. I guess you could say that we share a lot of similar ethical system.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/24/2007 6:51:50 AM

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Master and I do not share the same spiritual beliefs, nor do my beliefs match my slave sister's beliefs. We still have a good connection, a solid foundation, because we share the commonality of trust and affection. It can make for interesting conversation.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/26/2007 11:05:41 PM

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As was mentioned, as long as the "other's" beliefs in no way sacrificed or jeopardized my own personal freedoms... quote: It's important that their beliefs and practices will not cause a conflict with mine and that they will not try to change mine. However, I am in a state of flux, growing, changing, and becoming, through successive lives, so... I must be willing to thoroughly investigate and analyze new ideas if I wish to continue growing, changing, and becoming... think about it

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/27/2007 5:48:44 AM

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As long as they arent out sacrificing humans, conjuring up demons and doing other negative/evil/demonic things...... i dun really care.

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RE: Spiritual Compatibility - 4/27/2007 7:19:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: szobras
How important is it to you? What aspects are important to you?
Is it in the basic principles, the integrity to follow their beliefs? The openness to perhaps, realize those beliefs may change over time? Or even so much that you may feel that you must practice the same path. Does it even matter?

I believe in the "philosopher's God", or, rather, that "God" is the universe itself and that the universe is "God".
Truth, logic, reason, and thoughtful intereptation of nature are "holy" to me.
These are all very important.

The basic principles? They're fine enough, but merely a start. To be able to say "this is what I believe" is one thing. To be able to demonstrate it is another.

I harbor a hatred for religion, proper.
It was fine enough when man stared up the at the stars and wondered, "What are those?" It was still well enough when he considered, "Might these be able to think and feel?"
It was questionable when he started naming the specks of light.
It was a show of delusion when he claimed to know of the personalities, histories, and nature of these stars.
Willful submission to ignorance when he bowed before the stars, giving up something he valued to them.
Absurd ego, when he thought that these supposedly-omnipotent beings gave a damn about something as meaningless as him.
Pettiness, when he told others the stars favored him, or that he understood their ways.
It was indiginity when his neighbor claimed another, more powerful star favored him.
Alikened stupidity when a third started praising an animal.
Further, when one claimed his to be invisible.
Maliciousness in the favor of maintaining one's own delusion, when they fought over their "gods".

A lot's happened since these idiots started telling people that the stars spoke to them. The delusion's weaker. Religion's dying in this world despite the incredible increases in population. The remaining are learning that their delusion can no longer be "pure".. that they can't force it on others. Rather, they have to support one another in eachothers' delusions to keep any of them alive.

All of this shit about "feeling" something and "believing", having "faith".. words that fools are using to cover up their inability to actually show any effect of their supposed gods..

Great things have been proven in this world. The computer you're on is reading this. If you seek God- if you seek truth- if anyone does- seek to understand the miracle infront of you and not the delusions of some bastard telling you to follow the manical fantascies of egos fearing their own mortality.

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