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Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 4/29/2005 9:48:59 AM   
yournicholas


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Status: offline 		I'm interested in sites that provide feedback on introducing female supremacy into an otherwise vanilla relationship. Aroundherfinger.com and Elise Sutton's female supremacy site are two examples that come to mind. Does anyone have any other suggestions? No ads, please, just real feedback.
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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 4/29/2005 9:56:05 AM   
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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 3:33:34 AM   
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Which is" Women Don't Do Housework"


Clean the home for yout vanilla partner, cook her favourite dinner, do the laundry. Watch her rection when you show her the web site that SHE would in control of you.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 4:34:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Elise Sutton is a man.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 4:56:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: masmiss

Elise Sutton is a man.



I was just going to say that.

It's interesting that most men I've spoken to that advocate Elise Sutton's "teachings" are both unaware that he is a man and that as a Domme, I am truly NOT interested in having a man tell me how I'm supposed to "be" in my personal relationships.

As for the "female supremecy" philosophy....does that also make me wrong that my primary relationship is with a lovely female slave?

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 7:02:16 AM   
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As for the "female supremecy" philosophy....does that also make me wrong that my primary relationship is with a lovely female slave?

Probably as it defeats the end game of getting their dick wet...though you probably would have a number of takers for poly just so they can watch

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 7:40:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: onceburned

What do you mean by feedback?


That's exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to help, but I don't understand the question. "Feedback"?


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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 7:59:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: yournicholas
I'm interested in sites that provide feedback on introducing female supremacy into an otherwise vanilla relationship. Aroundherfinger.com and Elise Sutton's female supremacy site are two examples that come to mind. Does anyone have any other suggestions? No ads, please, just real feedback.

Read this thread:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1990013/mpage_1/tm.htm

Also, read and share with your vanilla gf Akasha's Good Girl's Guide to Domination:
http://www.akashaweb.com/updates/GoodGirlsFreePreview.html

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Not with envy, not with a twisted heart, shall you feel superior, or go about boasting. Rather in goodness by action make true your song and your word. Thus you shall be highly regarded, and able to live in peace with all others.
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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 8:03:31 AM   
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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 9:31:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Feedback: Your partner is not superior because she has a vagina. Your partner may not be superior to you at all. If you want to introduce her to Kink and D/s and M/s, don't insult her by implying that you want her to control your relationship because she had the fortune of being born female. Give her that power because she is an awesome person. And only if she, upon review of the concept, agrees that it is something she would like to try with you.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 10:04:21 AM   
RumpusParable


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Status: offline 		Many of us who are female dominants of whatever type, such as me, don't like the Elise Sutton view/approach to owning a male.

I shouldn't have to, essentially, keep him horny and hot by every little thing I want him to do or get done.

Chael kisses my ass, buys me things, does housework, and shares my life with me because he thinks I'm awesome and does all these things without them getting his dick hard. He finds me sexy and we enjoy a very nice sex life, but I don't have to cater to some sexual fantasy of his to own him and have him serve me.

Now, I'm not saying such an approach is wrong for others if that rocks their worlds. I'm saying it's not actively embraced by all (or even anywhere near a majority, IME) female owners. Again IME, that tends to be much more a male fantasy style that gets shoved at females much more often.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 3:30:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onceburned

What do you mean by feedback?


He's looking for links...it's a fairly gawdamn basic question.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 3:32:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masmiss

Elise Sutton is a man.


Seriously?

Because I've had some major sex with her in my mind.

(And by the way....while I was having this fantasy...she told me I was damn good).

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 3:39:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
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ORIGINAL: masmiss
Elise Sutton is a man.

Seriously?

I've seen this rumored for years, and suspected it myself, because Sutton's material is so wanktastic, but I've never seen any hard proof. If one of the the other posters could produce some, I'd be much obliged.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 4:00:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masmiss

Elise Sutton is a man.


Okay. Everyone has to admit that is pretty funny. Seriously. So this is a man writing as a female Dominant claiming to know the female Dominant's mind? And people who follow his advice don't realize she is a he? Can he not write this from the perspective of a male submissive? Or is he not that either?



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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 4:14:34 PM   
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Okay. Everyone has to admit that is pretty funny. Seriously. So this is a man writing as a female Dominant claiming to know the female Dominant's mind?

It's more along the line of they're writing fiction that hits all the "female supremacy" loving submissive men's wank fantasies.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/7/2012 4:26:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who is Elise Sutton and why does it matter?

...No one seems to know if she's a real person, much less whether she is what she claims to be. She presents herself as a vastly experienced lifestyler, and renders seemingly authoritative opinions on what it takes to structure a successful D&S relationship. She has a large following, particularly among submissive men trying to coach and encourage into wives and girlfriends into taking on dominant roles. And, of course, she has a ton of material that she sells directly from her site.

...6. Good SM models are hard to find. Bad ones abound. I'll go back to Ms. Sutton: her site is called "Elise Sutton's Female Superiority Page." Yep, she's a female supremacist. Big surprise. And what kind of people are likely to believe that any one group of people is innately superior to another? Uhhh...fascists! Nazis! Racists! Sexists! And, pardon me...IDIOTS! Female supremacy isn't the answer to patriarchy. It IS patriarchy, with a cunt instead of a cock. It caters to malesubs' horny fantasies. Indeed, IMO, that's what most of the so-called on-line female supremacy is indeed about: male sex fantasies. Seriously. When I've met people, in real life, who've said, "Oh yes, I believe all men are inferior to all women" (or vice versa) I just assumed they were nuts and tried to get as far away from them as possible.

Read more: http://gloriabrame.typepad.com/inside_the_mind_of_gloria/2007/10/who-is-elise-su.html

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/8/2012 5:49:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Female supremacy isn't the answer to patriarchy. It IS patriarchy, with a cunt instead of a cock.


and it is just as fuckin' ridiculous.........luci

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/8/2012 6:46:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lot's of great answers here. I found myself agreeing with most of them.

Being the dominant I am, doesn't include catering to a cock to get his adoration or anything else. Even when I was in vanilla relationships, I didn't cater.. okay maybe I did a few times, but that was special.

Superior... shit... until lightening flies from my fingertips and strikes ya on the ass... I am just a bossy woman that knows my place and yours and I don't even need to sell a book, make money on a web site or convince anyone else of how they ought to be doing it.

Hell, I am just a bossy nobody with no lighten. Maybe I should be sad. Naw... I think I'm good without a man that wants to patronize me, play kinky in trying to get me to do what he wants by calling it worship or service to a superior being and that needs to convince me that I really ought to play his way and call it all for me.

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RE: Aroundherfinger and Elise Sutton - 12/8/2012 8:10:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Who is Elise Sutton and why does it matter?

...No one seems to know if she's a real person, much less whether she is what she claims to be. She presents herself as a vastly experienced lifestyler, and renders seemingly authoritative opinions on what it takes to structure a successful D&S relationship. She has a large following, particularly among submissive men trying to coach and encourage into wives and girlfriends into taking on dominant roles. And, of course, she has a ton of material that she sells directly from her site.

...6. Good SM models are hard to find. Bad ones abound. I'll go back to Ms. Sutton: her site is called "Elise Sutton's Female Superiority Page." Yep, she's a female supremacist. Big surprise. And what kind of people are likely to believe that any one group of people is innately superior to another? Uhhh...fascists! Nazis! Racists! Sexists! And, pardon me...IDIOTS! Female supremacy isn't the answer to patriarchy. It IS patriarchy, with a cunt instead of a cock. It caters to malesubs' horny fantasies. Indeed, IMO, that's what most of the so-called on-line female supremacy is indeed about: male sex fantasies. Seriously. When I've met people, in real life, who've said, "Oh yes, I believe all men are inferior to all women" (or vice versa) I just assumed they were nuts and tried to get as far away from them as possible.

Read more: http://gloriabrame.typepad.com/inside_the_mind_of_gloria/2007/10/who-is-elise-su.html


Kali, my dear, that is absolutely brilliant in its own way. My only caveat is my definition of either partriarchy or matriarchy is neither negative nor positive, but neutral until the power is used one way of the other.

I do not think either is bad in and of itself, but is only so when used to pathologically help oneself at the expense and hurt of another. THAT I'm not for.

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