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Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:06:05 AM   
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You'd think this would be a reasonably well represented niche in the BDSM community. Since subs of all stripes are primarily interested in a Dom that is naturally aggressive, assertive, "Alpha Male", I expected that there would be a dozen communities for white subs throwing themselves at the feet of Black Doms.

Alas, I've been doing some extensive searches and can't find any. I've read several sites refrencing "Obeah" in Chicago, which would be great as I'm in the burbs, but I can't find them directly. Does anyone know where I can find this or other such communities?

Thanks.


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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:17:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dgrade

You'd think this would be a reasonably well represented niche in the BDSM community. Since subs of all stripes are primarily interested in a Dom that is naturally aggressive, assertive, "Alpha Male", I expected that there would be a dozen communities for white subs throwing themselves at the feet of Black Doms.

Alas, I've been doing some extensive searches and can't find any. I've read several sites refrencing "Obeah" in Chicago, which would be great as I'm in the burbs, but I can't find them directly. Does anyone know where I can find this or other such communities?

Thanks.





Just out of curiosity, how would people react if one was to put a title up saying
Any Pansexual White Supremacy Communities?


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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:22:08 AM   
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One of the better known groups along those lines....


http://www.brotherhoodofthecircle.com/

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:22:58 AM   
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Seems that in black culture, it's the women who are the more dominant ones, sure don't see very many black men involved in the lifestyle. Last FLOG I attended wasn't even one.......

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:29:21 AM   
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Just out of curiosity, how would people react if one was to put a title up saying
Any Pansexual White Supremacy Communities?

You should try it and find out. LOL And in the OP, you should say that you expect to find hundreds communities where _________(insert race here) subs are throwing themselves at the feet of white masters.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:33:10 AM   
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hmmm, i'm nt sure if i am offended or not....i'm going to go with yes

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 6:51:53 AM   
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There are lots of groups that consist of white women with a fetish for black men.  Went to one by accident once, had an interesting time.  I think that most of this kink is served this way rather than a dedicated group but in SF there is some group that has Mahogany in their title, you might try that as a search term.

I personally find the concept offensive but hey, it isn't the only one.  As for the jerks who have nasty things to say about black men, perhaps they don't need a group to attract women or a forum to expose their ignorance?

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 7:16:37 AM   
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The Washington, DC area and surrounding suburbs are some of the most diverse communities in the world.
We indeed have a large portion of the community that are POC.
In Addition to the Brotherhood of the Circle, There's also a Multicultural munch group, Black Beat, and about 4 other munches that attract many POC to their events.
In defense of the OP I'd like to say many of my black friends here in the community have stated they are the only black person in attendance at many events of 100 or more in other areas.
I wouldn't knock this guy for trying to associate with his peers too much.
Now the whole white sub at a black Dom's feet, I'd say a good sub regardless of color may be the avenue to pursue instead of being color blindered and painting yourself into a white box.
suzanne

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 7:21:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MellowSir

Seems that in black culture, it's the women who are the more dominant ones, sure don't see very many black men involved in the lifestyle. Last FLOG I attended wasn't even one.......

There are roughly 150 Black Doms here in th DC public community that participate in events at least twice a month.
There are only about 4 black male subs I've seen in this area.
I have also seen a good average of women, more leaning to the sub side in numbers over all, but a good show in both as well.
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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 8:44:21 PM   
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If you take a look at Alt.com, its quite easy to find a number of "white cock for black Dommes" and "white pussy for black Doms" communities. How many of these people actually play in real life, I don't know. However, you may be able to find one or two leads over there.

I've certainly gotten hit up a few times by people who want to get their rocks off online from the idea of subbing to a Dominant Black Goddess Queen ... person. However, I've yet to see this as an organized sub group in Seattle, and actually haven't heard of it elsewhere. It's cool to know that there are enough kinky POC to rate munches with their peers in certain cities, though.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/24/2007 11:09:46 PM   
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I have known MANY black male doms and one is my mentor. Most that I know/have known personally don't engage in community lifestyle involvement other than parties or clubbing. I can't speak for black male doms, but personally I completely understand why. I have a low tolerance for bullshit and drama, and most lifestyle communities that I've experience are rife with both.

Also, another turnoff in underrepresented lifestyle communities is that every time you rear your head at a munch or light play event, too much of the initial reaction is "I've always wanted to be dominated by a black woman". And then they go ooon and oooon making sure to insert "strong black woman", etc. with everything they say.  Race play seems to be the FIRST and often only thing on their minds when they see you. Of course that often goes away with time and as the group gets to know you, but this seriously gets OLD as fuck, and often gets in the way of enjoying said munches and gatherings. Sad as it is to say, as many organizations and groups as I'm involved with, throughout my life, in my interaction with the BDSM community groups, race is pretty much *always* brought up by random persons.

I was introduced to Black Beat by my little sister who's not a lifestyler (but oh how she loves my stories!) but knew an active member. Though in Houston where I was brought into the lifestyle we did have regular meetings of black BDSM friends, we didn't bother to formalize the organization or even the parties.  I know as far as the gay scene there are tons of amazing black male doms, and I think that the gay community is better at embracing and involving them. 

The number of black doms represented at a BDSM event is absolutely NO indication on  how many practicing black doms there are.  When you think about advertising events, organization and clubs, very little is done to advertise certain lifestyle bdsm communities towards blacks in general. I think it's naive to say that "well we put it on, they didn't come... so there just aren't any".  There are a few black clubs that have the occasional, VERY hot fetish nights, and though most are as with any fetish night, amateurs playing dress-up, you can spot many serious hard-core lifestylers.  You might want to investigate in your area.

If you identify mainly as a black male dom searching for a white sub, go ahead and advertise yourself as such. As a black domme I leave race out of my selection and it isn't a center of focus in my play, but be vocal about it and they will flock. There are lots of you out there. I'm totally laughing at all of these people saying that black male domming is not represented in the black community. They've obviously not been around us much. As far as in the lifestyle sense, I think we are just now being included in the BDSM community as a whole. Of course, for women its a bit be accepting (hell, with so many communities having to restrict membership against single males, I kinda feel sorry for lifestyle guys anyway.. hahah).  You should browse on the main site, there really are some wonderful and insiteful black male doms on here to network with.  Best of luck, dear. Wish I was in Chi-town to point you in the right direction or go out on a black dom/me recruitment mission with ya. heh.  

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 2:20:38 AM   
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Interesting topic .. basically I agree with MariaB.. and I really dont see why black / white labels have to be put on everything .. traditionally Black men have always been strong and naturally dominate.. and at the same time black women have not allowed themselves to be dominated.. That black woman in general has a strength within herself as well... Whereas white society, in general, has become bored with the vanilla and traditional lifestyles they lead and explored other alternatives to give excitement to their lives.. White women have, in general, traditionally been subserviant and dominated but her white man.. however everyone sooner realizes the weakness and ignorance of lies.. as the lies of prejudice began to become realized, the segment of society that perpetuated these lies of prejudiced were seen as being weak and insecure. They were seen as weak men .. whereas the black man was seen as a strong man, certainly in a physical sense...  This only fed into the desire to break away from tradition and have new exciting experiences by white women, in general...therefore, there is a growing number of white women wanting the black experience.  Which in reality is only the human experience, a diversified human experience. In short, this lifestyle has never been a part of black culture so there was no cultureal transition to attract black people into this lifestyle in significant numbers.  At least this is my synopsis of the situation.. Interesting topic.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 4:04:49 AM   
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greeting

i do know of one that had inivted me to join but at last i like white subs just do so it is not for me anything like that that does not allow others of fdifferent races in is will ok but no it not right

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 5:32:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dgrade

Since subs of all stripes are primarily interested in a Dom that is naturally aggressive, assertive, "Alpha Male",


i disagree with this statement. Daddy is a naturally dominate who isn't the typical "Alpha Male".  "Alpha Male" (and i have met many) don't last long around me because i fight back (military child).


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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 5:39:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: acquiesce93

I have known MANY black male doms and one is my mentor. Most that I know/have known personally don't engage in community lifestyle involvement other than parties or clubbing. I can't speak for black male doms, but personally I completely understand why. I have a low tolerance for bullshit and drama, and most lifestyle communities that I've experience are rife with both.

Also, another turnoff in underrepresented lifestyle communities is that every time you rear your head at a munch or light play event, too much of the initial reaction is "I've always wanted to be dominated by a black woman". And then they go ooon and oooon making sure to insert "strong black woman", etc. with everything they say.  Race play seems to be the FIRST and often only thing on their minds when they see you. Of course that often goes away with time and as the group gets to know you, but this seriously gets OLD as fuck, and often gets in the way of enjoying said munches and gatherings. Sad as it is to say, as many organizations and groups as I'm involved with, throughout my life, in my interaction with the BDSM community groups, race is pretty much *always* brought up by random persons.

I was introduced to Black Beat by my little sister who's not a lifestyler (but oh how she loves my stories!) but knew an active member. Though in Houston where I was brought into the lifestyle we did have regular meetings of black BDSM friends, we didn't bother to formalize the organization or even the parties.  I know as far as the gay scene there are tons of amazing black male doms, and I think that the gay community is better at embracing and involving them. 

The number of black doms represented at a BDSM event is absolutely NO indication on  how many practicing black doms there are.  When you think about advertising events, organization and clubs, very little is done to advertise certain lifestyle bdsm communities towards blacks in general. I think it's naive to say that "well we put it on, they didn't come... so there just aren't any".  There are a few black clubs that have the occasional, VERY hot fetish nights, and though most are as with any fetish night, amateurs playing dress-up, you can spot many serious hard-core lifestylers.  You might want to investigate in your area.

If you identify mainly as a black male dom searching for a white sub, go ahead and advertise yourself as such. As a black domme I leave race out of my selection and it isn't a center of focus in my play, but be vocal about it and they will flock. There are lots of you out there. I'm totally laughing at all of these people saying that black male domming is not represented in the black community. They've obviously not been around us much. As far as in the lifestyle sense, I think we are just now being included in the BDSM community as a whole. Of course, for women its a bit be accepting (hell, with so many communities having to restrict membership against single males, I kinda feel sorry for lifestyle guys anyway.. hahah).  You should browse on the main site, there really are some wonderful and insiteful black male doms on here to network with.  Best of luck, dear. Wish I was in Chi-town to point you in the right direction or go out on a black dom/me recruitment mission with ya. heh.  



acquiesce,

Thank you thank you for such an accurate post!! Rather than cut and paste all over the place, I put in bold print the stuff I was saying "AMEN" to as I read.

"they will flock".. OMG...While it doesn't happen so much in the bdsm communities we're involved with, it happens all the time when we go other places. We walk in the door, he sits me down at a table and steps away for a minute, and the women practically run toward him.. "ooh, I've always wanted to be with a black man!!!" He just laughs. It IS humorous, but it's also downright embarrassing all at the same time for me to be watching this. I keep thinking about these women, "have a little pride!!" but pride rarely enters into things when it comes to lust and possible stereotypes being true.

I am also, quite frankly, offended that to these women, he's just the oddity, the piece of meat to try that's new and different. To me, he's a man, the best man I know, regardless of the color of his skin and silly me for just wishing that others would see how great he is without skin color, stereotypes and all that entering into things.

He, like you said, has a very low bs tolerance factor and to him, when entering into groups on a consistent basis, everyone is, in fact, agreeing to abide by the rules of that group (not a bad thing), and in fact, the rules of whoever is running that group. However, to him, while he'll visit every once in a while, staying apart from that group means that he's living his life without the expectations of others entering into it. As he puts it, he "travels through groups, not with them." And that's how he likes things. Drama is not something we enjoy at all, and when it gets too deep, I steer clear. On the other hand, he doesn't even get close. 

Thanks again for your post.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 3:54:25 PM   
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Thank you very much to those with contributions to my question and positive wishes.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 5:52:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dgrade

You'd think this would be a reasonably well represented niche in the BDSM community. Since subs of all stripes are primarily interested in a Dom that is naturally aggressive, assertive, "Alpha Male", I expected that there would be a dozen communities for white subs throwing themselves at the feet of Black Doms.

Alas, I've been doing some extensive searches and can't find any. I've read several sites refrencing "Obeah" in Chicago, which would be great as I'm in the burbs, but I can't find them directly. Does anyone know where I can find this or other such communities?

Thanks.


You know....I was going to respond but I do not want to get caught up in that whole racial thread again. 


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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 6:52:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

The Washington, DC area and surrounding suburbs are some of the most diverse communities in the world.
We indeed have a large portion of the community that are POC.

Feeling clueless. POC stands for what?

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 7:06:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elorin
Feeling clueless. POC stands for what?

"People of Color."

A cheat for finding out definitions for certain things is to type "What is POC" or whatever into Google picking the most likely quote from the web page snippets offered.

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RE: Any Pansexual Black Supremacy communities? - 4/25/2007 7:11:18 PM   
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Thank you lovely, you rock. I didn't think of googling it...feeling rather lazy I guess. I was trying to equate with black/african america, not all ethnic origins or I'd probably have guessed it.

Answer and how to find my own answers in future both greatly appreciated!!

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