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Aine -> ring vs collar (4/24/2007 9:56:19 AM)

Well, it's been a while since I've spelunked in here.

And something has come up to make me wonder.

I've just gotten engaged.  (Sunday)

I've always seen people making comments about the similarities between getting collared and getting married.

Now that I am engaged, I see and feel some of the similarities, but I'm also now noticing the differences as well, and what they mean to me.

I'm curious to see what other people think, and their own personal experiences with the two.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:00:10 AM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_291301/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#291301
Collar vs Wedding Ring

http://www.collarchat.com/m_247668/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#247668
ring or collar, what's the difference?




MasterFireMaam -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:06:42 AM)

There's a bunch of legal differences...there can also be spiritual differences.

Master Fire




SimplyMichael -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:32:56 AM)

Congratulations.




KatyLied -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:35:18 AM)

Congratulations and best wishes for a wonderful future.

To me, a collar and an engagement ring have very little in common.  An engagement ring is a symbol of the promise for a legally-binding union.





imthatacheyouhav -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:35:47 AM)

Congratulations. i wish you much happiness ....




Suleiman -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:45:56 AM)

There were only a few long-term dominants in my life, and the one that I tried to mantain a TPE with was kind of an abusive jerk. My wife isn't very dominant, though she subs beautifully - well, in the bedroom, any way. As a household, she's always been the primary breadwinner and the head of household. I mostly cook and clean and odd-job on the side to make ends meet. Any way, The first, knee-jerk response that flashed through my mind on the differences is that having the ring means having someone who really is there for the long haul, and who won't decide to dismiss me simply because we've had a disagreement. That's not really fair, though, since I had a bad experience in a TPE and I'm having a fricking wonderful experience as a married man. Of course, your mileage may, can, and in fact will vary.

Congratulations, by the way! I wish you both the best!




Aine -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:48:44 AM)

Fast Reply

Aside from the obvious legal implications.

The emotion and the love behind an engagement ring or a marriage  and the similarities and the differences to a collaring, which goes without saying more often than not has some sort of emotional reasoning behind it.




Aine -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 10:50:44 AM)

Fast Reply


Thanks for the congrats btw!

lol




Devilslilsister -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 11:13:28 AM)

Congratulations!




slavegirljoy -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 11:20:04 AM)

Congratulations on your engagement and best wishes for a happy life with your husband. 
 
The obvious difference, in practical terms, is that it's legally much easier and cheaper to remove a collar than a wedding ring.  There are, of course, lots of other legal and financial differences involved in being married that don't apply to being a slave or submissive.  But, for me, the happiness and commitment i felt being given a collar from my Master declaring His ownership over me was even more special than when i was given an engagement ring from my fiancé declaring his wish to marry me. 
 
It really depends on how the two of you feel about each other and how you see your future together.  The ring (or collar) is just a symbol of those feelings you have for each other and what you want to have with each other.  Of course, there are also other uses for a collar that aren't possible with a ring, such as attaching a leash or chain to it, for example.[:)]
 
slave joy
Owned property of Master David


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aine

Well, it's been a while since I've spelunked in here.

And something has come up to make me wonder.

I've just gotten engaged.  (Sunday)

I've always seen people making comments about the similarities between getting collared and getting married.

Now that I am engaged, I see and feel some of the similarities, but I'm also now noticing the differences as well, and what they mean to me.

I'm curious to see what other people think, and their own personal experiences with the two.





szobras -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 11:27:09 AM)

Congratulations Aine,
My wife is a switch, and we were married as equals. The view point  that I may offer is that our "ring" symbolizes all the elements. Devotion, honesty, loyalty, ect... though based on an equal balance of authority.




Casie -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 1:04:42 PM)

Many congrats. The biggest differnence is obviously legal, and spirtual (for some). 




SunNMoon -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 3:40:03 PM)

Congratulations!

I'm not collared or married so I'm not sure how I would feel.

Again congratulations, wishing you years of happiness. [:D]

Kat





windchymes -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 4:33:25 PM)

Congratulations on your engagement!




WhiplashSmile -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 4:43:34 PM)

Giving somebody a ring or collar them is relationship commitment.
Even more so when it's an engagement or wedding ring.  All in all a
band is a band with a meaning.      

Congratulations! 





daddysliloneds -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 4:54:57 PM)

they're the same in spirit, kind of, but not really...

in my opinion, if you get divorced, you can at least sell the ring; the only thing you can do with the collar is put it on your dog!

i'll take the ring thanks! besides, that's something i would wear
in public and actually feel like my dom thought i was worth something, in leiu of something he bought from the pet store, said some fancy words, then put on my neck; but that's just me.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aine

Well, it's been a while since I've spelunked in here.

And something has come up to make me wonder.

I've just gotten engaged.  (Sunday)

I've always seen people making comments about the similarities between getting collared and getting married.

Now that I am engaged, I see and feel some of the similarities, but I'm also now noticing the differences as well, and what they mean to me.

I'm curious to see what other people think, and their own personal experiences with the two.






outlier -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 6:10:54 PM)

Hello Witty Lady and CONGRADULATIONS!

The engagement and marriage mean what you two, the law
your church etc. says it means.  The collar is up to you two.

I would suggest that you talk this over with the lucky fellow.

Obviously, since there is no outside law or authority involved
it will mean what the two of you make it mean.  Trite but true,
and therefore worth some serious talk between the two of you.

Have a grand life together.
Outlier




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 6:43:11 PM)

Is it just me, or are most of the people posting to this thread (well intentioned as they are) not really getting the OP's question?
It's funny that you would ask this question because I have been thinking about this same question.
The answer I decided I like is that being collared is much the same as declaring a commitment (ie: going steady) to each other. 
An engagement ring means what it has always meant.  A promise of a future legal and/or religious ceremony sanctioned by church(temple, mosque whatever) and state AND most likely, your family.
Of course, I may have totally missed the point of the question as well, but this is how I interpreted it.




slave2MasterD -> RE: ring vs collar (4/24/2007 6:58:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aine

Well, it's been a while since I've spelunked in here.

And something has come up to make me wonder.

I've just gotten engaged.  (Sunday)

I've always seen people making comments about the similarities between getting collared and getting married.

Now that I am engaged, I see and feel some of the similarities, but I'm also now noticing the differences as well, and what they mean to me.

I'm curious to see what other people think, and their own personal experiences with the two.



Hello Aine and congratulations!
 
i've never been married - was engaged once many MANY moons ago.  i haven't been formally collared but have been with the same Master for 3 years and we have an understanding while working toward the formal collaring.
 
That history now being related i will say that for me, Master's collar would mean possibly even a bit more to me than that engagement did years ago.  i say that because i've come to know the differences in a relationship between equals (marriage) and one between Master/slave or Dominant/submissive.
 
i realize that there are many out there who scene or negotiate for single times or short term relationships.  Some even get collared for a specific time-frame and if that's what they want, fine.  But for me, a collar is a long-term (read lifetime) commitment.  Trusting someone that completely, giving up all i am and can be to them is too important (for lack of a better word at the moment) to consider a temporary arrangement.  Again, i say this is MY take and what works for me.
 
slave t




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