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BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/24/2007 6:13:20 PM)

How about dodging cars on a busy highway smiles,self punishment doesn"t work in my book leaves it in the hand of the submissive..bounty



BeltHerr -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 5:56:08 AM)

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you are to be punished for 'guilt-ridden consciousness' and 'shame for aberrant desires'.

So we know you have exhibited 'guilt' and 'shame' and your Master feels this behavior, or attitude, must be corrected.

The most apt punishments would be exercises that make you wallow in the regions that cause you guilt and shame. ... do the things that elicit that response in you, prolonged, perhaps public. Or if public behavior of the sort is so extreme as to bring out the cops, than do it privately, longer than you can stand, then confess what you did and how you felt publicly, in humiliating detail.

I don't know what activities bring forth your shame, your guilt, but you do and should be able to devise exercises that make you burn with guilt and shame. If you have no ideas, message Me what things brought forth the shame and guilt your master wants to punish, and I will prescribe what you must do.



m0rgan -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 6:11:38 AM)

difficult, but not impossible, for self-punishment to be effective, but i will offer a small pain one;

it requires only privacy, hot water and a spoon. sit in a comfy chair as if in stirrups with the hollow along your thigh below your labia prominent, take the spoon from the cup and with a quick shake to remove the water hold the spoon against your hollow for a count of three (do not hold the cup of water in your hand but rest it next to you on a table, a lapfull is not fun) while you are concentrating on the minor pain easing, place the spoon back in the hot water, then make yourself do the other thigh for a count of four. the second one is the hard one to do!



MagiksSlave -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 5:54:47 PM)

Ok what is sub zero??

BESIDES... the scientific definition of the coldest something can get as Im sure she wasnt refering to that


Magik's slave



frezi -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 7:18:20 PM)

The planet Cryon... remember where the Superman came from?

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

Ok what is sub zero??

BESIDES... the scientific definition of the coldest something can get as Im sure she wasnt refering to that


Magik's slave



Invictus754 -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 7:27:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: frezi

I am to cum up with a list of psychological self-punishments for the Master to consider. The crime was: guilt-ridden consciousness and shame for aberrant sexual desires. All of a sudden my masochistic imagination is blank... Please, help me with ideas!


It sounds like he wants you to get over your guilt and shame for your desires for "aberrant" sex. 
 
In this case, the solution is: hair of the dog.  What would be more humiliating than acting out the desire you find "aberrent"?[:D]
 
You can thank me later.



leili -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 7:33:27 PM)

uh..............((also confused))



MagiksSlave -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/25/2007 9:09:33 PM)

huh???


Magik's slave



RavenMuse -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/26/2007 3:11:29 PM)

How to ask the Doms? Given I'm sure I'm not the only one to cast an eye over other forums than the ones specificaly aimed at us..... you just DID sweetie *g*

OK so you feel guilty for having "Aberant sexual thoughts", the goal is something designed to give you a feeling of 'penance' whilst also pushing you toward acceptance of those as not being 'aberant' and guilt making'......

I know how *I* woul tackle such and whist a forum such as this one would be useful, I wouldn't need the girl to ask for ideas. The answer is pretty obvious.... but them maybe only because I know how people here react to 'aberant' sexual acts and fantasys *g*

Write them out and post them on these forums asking if other subs share such fantasys or have actualy tried such things for real.... Oh gosh, you are SO outed as being a 'dirty, aborant, nasty little slut'.... or so your guilt will be telling you as you hit the send button..... till you start getting the chorus line of  "Me too", "Been there, done that" and "Thats nothing, not compaired to what my Master did to ME last weekend".... which should help you realise there is NOTHING wrong with kinky desires after all.

Just how I'd approach it.... genericaly of course, I might take a diffrent approach once I got to know the girl, modifying it to suit their nature. But thats the general thing I'd be looking for.



mynded -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/26/2007 3:56:44 PM)

1. Wink at the next sleazy guy you pass by. Safely of course as in a public place or going the other way in traffic...

2. Flirt with a younger man till he blushes.

3. Write a short story erotic enuf to roast his marshmallows.

Thats my ideas. Good luck.



WhiplashSmile -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 6:44:24 AM)

Oh Hell...  Close yourself up in a closet for a few hours repeating "I will not (insert offense here) again, to please my master!"  Do this for say 3 hours straight.  Set an alarm clock..  must be dark confined space you can squeeze your naked body into..  After you are done.. take out some lined paper!  Write the same phrase down again and again.   One line for every month of your life.. give it to your Master.   If that's not enough.   Buy a BOX of fruit loops..  open it up.. repeat phrase as you did in the closet.  At the end of ever phrase take out one fruit loop and one alone and eat it.  After you swallow take a sip from a glass of milk.  Repeat process until the box is empty or you can't take it anymore! LOL.....



slaveofdarkhold -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 8:29:13 AM)

Am I the only one who thought 'psychological self punishment' sounds like a really bad idea for someone who admits they're feeling guilt and shame?
It seems to me that this is just going to make the situation worse. What's wrong with good old fashioned help and support? Maybe once you and your Master have worked through the issues you're struggling with, you could have some kind of symbolic punishment if you still felt you needed it.

In my understanding of the world, humiliating a person is NOT the best way to stop them feeling ashamed.



tade -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 9:54:57 AM)

I can think of 100's of things but the sadist in me just can't help keep you out of "sub-zero space".



NControlofU -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 10:06:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
Write them out and post them on these forums asking if other subs share such fantasys or have actualy tried such things for real.... Oh gosh, you are SO outed as being a 'dirty, aborant, nasty little slut'.... or so your guilt will be telling you as you hit the send button..... till you start getting the chorus line of  "Me too", "Been there, done that" and "Thats nothing, not compaired to what my Master did to ME last weekend".... which should help you realise there is NOTHING wrong with kinky desires after all.


This is the BEST idea yet!  I'm voting for this "punishment."  Who else agrees?  Can we get a consensus?



santalia -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 10:16:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NControlofU

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
Write them out and post them on these forums asking if other subs share such fantasys or have actualy tried such things for real.... Oh gosh, you are SO outed as being a 'dirty, aborant, nasty little slut'.... or so your guilt will be telling you as you hit the send button..... till you start getting the chorus line of  "Me too", "Been there, done that" and "Thats nothing, not compaired to what my Master did to ME last weekend".... which should help you realise there is NOTHING wrong with kinky desires after all.


This is the BEST idea yet!  I'm voting for this "punishment."  Who else agrees?  Can we get a consensus?


i agree...probably exactly what is needed, with the information we were given. :)

As an aside note to the OP....i live in the Central Valley too...about 45 minutes South of Fresno. Bass Lake is definitely a beautiful one :)    Have you ever been to Mineral King though? If you like Bass Lake and like hiking, there are several lakes you can get to up in Mineral King. They are much smaller than Bass Lake but absolutely gorgeous.

Well wishes

-santalia{JR}t



Celeste43 -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/28/2007 8:09:47 PM)

How about go find a dominant who can lead you to enjoy your sexuality instead of one who seeks to make your guilt worse. Sorry, punishing you is just foolish here. What he needs to do is encourage you to share your desires and your fantasies so that you feel safe confiding in him. Instead of feeling more guilt.



mistoferin -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/29/2007 6:28:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveofdarkhold

Am I the only one who thought 'psychological self punishment' sounds like a really bad idea for someone who admits they're feeling guilt and shame?
It seems to me that this is just going to make the situation worse. What's wrong with good old fashioned help and support? Maybe once you and your Master have worked through the issues you're struggling with, you could have some kind of symbolic punishment if you still felt you needed it.

In my understanding of the world, humiliating a person is NOT the best way to stop them feeling ashamed.



If you read my first post to this thread you will see that I approached it from an angle that would actually help her to understand why she has such feelings, would explain those feelings to her and possibly help her to get beyond them.

I am all for "fantasy punishment" as in "Oh you've been such a bad girl, now drop your pants and come over here and let me _____". It can be pretty hot. But I don't have much use for the notion that "kink" is going to solve many real life issues though. I would personally not be able to put much trust into a partner who really believed that such issues could be affected or solved by kink.

If putting clothespins on your nipples, sticking a beer can up your twat and spanking your clit with a wooden spoon on web cam was an effective method of resolving issues or changing thought patterns or behaviors......mental health professionals would be prescribing it. There is a reason they're not.



whipingherfeet -> RE: please, help with ideas for self-punishment (4/30/2007 5:12:18 AM)

have your master removed your shoes and socks .and have you stand barefooted on a bed of  un cook rice for a couple of hours 



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