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KatyLied -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 8:41:57 AM)

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I think I always beleived it should be the submissive that relocates. Just wondering is all.


Why would you think that?  Many submissives own homes and have jobs and aren't willing/able to relocate.  Especially if they have um's and are court-ordered not to leave their state of residence.




justheather -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 8:49:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Intertwined

greetings everyone,

I am curious as to why so mant Doms on collarme are willing to relocate. I think I always beleived it should be the submissive that relocates. Just wondering is all.

sincerely Intertwined's slave


Some people always believed the man should work outside the home.
Some people "always believed" the woman should do all the housework.
Some people "always believed" the man should do anything involving lifting or power tools.
But we know these things are not what works for everyone.

As for my situation, he owns a house and land, and I dont, he has shared custody of his offspring and I have full custody with no other parental unit to consider and we both enjoy the lifestyle offered by his rural community. It was a no-brainer for us, but not because he is the Dom and Im the sub, but because it was the best all-around option for everyone involved.




mstrjx -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 8:51:57 AM)

I can answer this for myself.....

I work in an industry where I can get a job anywhere, anytime I want.  It's Friday as I write this.  I could be working on Monday, Tuesday at the latest.  While it is true that I am established where I am, and do pretty well, I might be able to do as well or better in other circumstances.

I have had any number of people live with me.  Sure, I'm comfortable with that.  But if the circumstances of a partner and I warranted that I make the move, and I feel the relationship is solid enough for me to uproot, then why not?

(Maybe I should start packing.)

Jeff




MasterBRD -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 9:49:54 AM)

As a Dom who moved to be with his slave I can say it was simply a matter of logic in our case. My beloved had family ties in and around the city she lived in, and I had nothing to speak of that kept me where I was.




domiguy -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 9:53:02 AM)

I often say that I'm willing to relocate for a sub....And by that I mean sometimes I'll get off the couch to take a dump...Ot maybe even now and again take out the garbage...Whew! All of this relocation has me pooped!




Celeste43 -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 2:52:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

that may be true RavenMuse...i'm no legal eagle, so perhaps there are things that can be done, ways a Master can come in and take over (not just in the relationship but financially, physically, legally, etc.) in such a way that leaves the sub/slave truly powerless. i actually would be fairly impressed with a Master who was able to accomplish such.


Shows how different we all are.

I'd be totally contemptuous of a man so insecure he had to steal a woman's assets in order to feel that she would stay with him.

But I'm with a man who celebrates the fact that I submit to him because I choose to, not because I have to.




cjenny -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 3:07:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

that may be true RavenMuse...i'm no legal eagle, so perhaps there are things that can be done, ways a Master can come in and take over (not just in the relationship but financially, physically, legally, etc.) in such a way that leaves the sub/slave truly powerless. i actually would be fairly impressed with a Master who was able to accomplish such.


Shows how different we all are.

I'd be totally contemptuous of a man so insecure he had to steal a woman's assets in order to feel that she would stay with him.

But I'm with a man who celebrates the fact that I submit to him because I choose to, not because I have to.


I don't see it as 'stealing' the submissives assets, I see it as just a different way to shift the power.
Admittedly I cannot imagine myself handing over my financial assets but I do understand it. Hmm.. it would be nice to have that actually..a lot of trust involved..





AquaticSub -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 3:16:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

that may be true RavenMuse...i'm no legal eagle, so perhaps there are things that can be done, ways a Master can come in and take over (not just in the relationship but financially, physically, legally, etc.) in such a way that leaves the sub/slave truly powerless. i actually would be fairly impressed with a Master who was able to accomplish such.


Shows how different we all are.

I'd be totally contemptuous of a man so insecure he had to steal a woman's assets in order to feel that she would stay with him.

But I'm with a man who celebrates the fact that I submit to him because I choose to, not because I have to.


You don't steal what is given, but I certainly wouldn't hold a man's worth as much if he was so insecure that say, he made her live in the cramped apartment he could afford rather then the nice family home she owns simply because she won't sign it over. It's not logical. Ever since this thread started I've been thinking about a friend I have whose family home is gorgous. Worth several million dollars and she definately would never, ever, ever sign it over, simply because she wants to ensure that it will remain in the family no matter what happened, come death or betrayal. I can't imagine someone not willing to respect the desires of her family to ensure that something that has been handed down for generations (it was built in the colonial days) will stay in the family. Of course, that may be classifed as extenuating circumstances.

I've also got to say that your last statement is spot on for me and mine. We don't feel that my submission would be worth much if it were secured with threats or helplessness.




Casie -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 4:28:17 PM)

I really don't think it matters. The person that has less responsiblity where they are and the person that it is easier for should be the one to move there orientation should not matter.




Griswold -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 5:01:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Intertwined

greetings everyone,

I am curious as to why so mant Doms on collarme are willing to relocate. I think I always beleived it should be the submissive that relocates. Just wondering is all.

sincerely Intertwined's slave


What the fuck does it matter who relocates?

That isn't a Dom or sub thing...it's a locational thing.

Dirt is a place to build or contain your dwelling.

Heart is everything else.

(Heart don't give a fuck where the dirt is).




daddysliloneds -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/27/2007 5:48:33 PM)

if anyone relocates, it's based upon their own personal desires/abilities/choice, not their defined position in a realtionship.




mons -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 2:31:25 AM)

greeting

they do this because if you find the love of your life, and it takes time to know someone. so if that person is the one why not move.

mons




eyesopened -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 4:20:36 AM)

i think the OP is reading way too much into the 'willing to relocate' option on the profiles.  For example, i had one Dom tell me i should have not listed that unless i was willing to relocate anywhere, including halfway around the globe.  There isn't an option to choose  'willing to relocate within xxx miles' or 'not opposed to relocating if the situation made that the better choice'.  i am not willing to relocate just for a whim or to see if a relationship might maybe could work out.  However, as much as it would be difficult to re-establish myself career-wise and as much as i would hate to live too far away from my grandchild, i AM willing to relocate and not let miles hinder being with the One for whom i am intended.  i should think that is what most people mean when they choose the 'willing to relocate' option regardless of orientation. 

Are there Dominants who are maybe thinking of using the sub for financial gain, to move into her house and have her support him and think this is going to be acceptable because she is the slave and has to do whatever he wants?  Of course.  And there are some submissives/slaves who are looking for a Dominant or Master for the same reason to use Him finacially?  Of course.  And there are some who get off on being the financial provider whether submissive or Dominant.  There's a lid for every pot.




WhiplashSmile -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 4:21:07 AM)

I'm actually one of the relocatable Doms.  About 8-9 months ago when a 5 year relationship ended, I was the one that packed up and left.  Did I take the dinning room furniture and things like that, hell no.   I suppose some people get the impression that us Doms are heartless in nature and would simply be ejecting the women out the door without a damn thing.  Perhaps call this old school of thinking but it's often easier for us men to work at obtaining material things all over again.  Compared to a woman working with Kids. 

Just because I'm relocatable does not mean I'm seeking to move in the same place a sub/slave either is currently living.  It does mean however I can move to a city and get a place for both her and I to live in.  Relocatable means just that, I actually dispise the fact that people jump to false conclusions at times.  This is why I have this on my profile - "I am open to relocating (This does not mean I am looking to move in with you and have you support me!)".   I already had somebody rudely accuse me of wanting to move in with them.   Relocatable means just that Relocatable.   It does not say DOM wants to move into submissives current residence.

Hell, I'd even be willing to relocate to some place completely different altogether if she can relocate as well.  In terms of work, I work from home and have clients in the US and CA.  No matter where the I go my work will follow me. 

Consider the fact that many times when a relationship ends, often the house gets sold.  Perhaps I'm wrong but I believe more times than not, a man simply ends up leaving the house behind for the woman to live in.  Many times there are children/kids involved, and additional considerations to be made.

Just because I'm a Dom does not mean I'm going to be tossing a submissive along with children out the door helpless with no where to go.   I think you need to step back and rethink the whole bit about your belief that it should be the submissive that has to relocate.




NakedGirlScout -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 4:30:07 AM)

As a woman with kids who HAS been kicked out of the Dom's house with no money or possession and forced to go to a womens' shelter, I've gone from being "relocateable" to preferring that the Dom moves in with me... then I'd still have a home if he didn't work out, at least. It's all in one's point of view and experience.




WhiplashSmile -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 5:17:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NakedGirlScout
As a woman with kids who HAS been kicked out of the Dom's house with no money or possession and forced to go to a womens' shelter, I've gone from being "relocateable" to preferring that the Dom moves in with me... then I'd still have a home if he didn't work out, at least. It's all in one's point of view and experience.

I can totally understand your point of view on this, because it protects both you and your kids. Call it an exit plan.  Sure nobody intentionally plans for a relationship to fail, however it's always wise to have a general plan in place should it fail.  Even more so with kids involved.   




yenlui -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 5:57:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Intertwined

I am curious as to why so mant Doms on collarme are willing to relocate. I think I always beleived it should be the submissive that relocates. Just wondering is all.

Why? The only reason I wouldn't even dream of asking Him to relocate is that He has a child. If He hadn't, there's no way I would have accepted it if He took it for granted that I'd be the one who relocated




AquaticSub -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 6:23:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NakedGirlScout

As a woman with kids who HAS been kicked out of the Dom's house with no money or possession and forced to go to a womens' shelter, I've gone from being "relocateable" to preferring that the Dom moves in with me... then I'd still have a home if he didn't work out, at least. It's all in one's point of view and experience.


Ouch... my heart goes out to you.




subtoheart -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 6:40:28 AM)

as far as being relocatable I agree with all this I am now in the situation of finding my own place.  Because he isnt happy with me.  I moved hundreds of miles away from my kids and family to be with him.  (stupid girl) so live and learn.




KMsAngel -> RE: Am curious as to why... (4/28/2007 6:57:50 AM)

oh dear. for someone who's just learning the ropes, how do we get on this super secret list to get the real deal manual?




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