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Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 10:06:52 PM   
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In superficially profile surfing I've come across "Fire Play" as a limit at least a few times and maybe as a likes/wants/needs.

Forgive my naivette but are we literally talking about burning a submissive/slave with an open flame?

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 10:19:12 PM   
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ever seen a fire-dancer raking a burning wand across their body? as i'm learning, Y/you needn't burn Y/your skin when playing with fire. hehe, Y/you have to practise and not be afraid of the possibility of being burned... the sencation is such a rush, give me flames over ice any day. in reguard to more than one person playing, there has to be a great deal of trust,,, i may put flames to my flesh, my Mate may put flame to my flesh,,, and well, that's it. O/others may have a different take on this activity, but i've wrote of what i know of the matter. hope it helps-  Phoenix

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 10:26:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: smcontrol
In superficially profile surfing I've come across "Fire Play" as a limit at least a few times and maybe as a likes/wants/needs.

Forgive my naivette but are we literally talking about burning a submissive/slave with an open flame?

Fire Cupping - using open flame to heat the air in a glass cup, then placing the cup on the skin. As the air cools, it contracts, causing suctions. Where you put the flame varies, and I normally burn a cotton ball on top of a circle of leather then put the cup on top of it to put the flame out. But it is open flame.
Devil's Fire - heat a metal probe to white hot, then touch the pointed tip to the flesh. It raises a tiny red bump, which can go on to itch like a fire ant bite, and if done very lightly will last anywhere from 3 days to a week. The harder you touch with the metal probe the more damage done to the skin, the longer the marks last (and more likely they will scar).

And then there are the actual placements of open flame on flesh. Oh my. Please, yes, more, thank you, I'll take it any day.

Especially my toes. I REALLY love to have my toes on fire. MMMM yum.

Yes, we are talking about open flame on skin. It does not necessarily "burn" the bottom. Most of the time it heats the skin in a delicious way, hotter than most might ever try on their own, but not enough to cause 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree burns in a medical sense.

I love fire play. Yum yum yum.
Wanna see pictures of flames on skin? ~grins~

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 10:30:23 PM   
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A book on fire play:
http://www.amazon.com/Flames-Passion-Handbook-Erotic-Fire/dp/1425934358/ref=sr_1_8/103-6566472-4101413?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177651701&sr=8-8
This was originally intended to be a book/DVD combination, and I was one of the bottoms used in filming. I'm not sure why the publishers chose not to include the DVD with publication, but I know both of the authors and they are both very skilled at many forms of fire play. However, as the book will emphasize, fire play isn't something to learn from the internet or a book. You really should have someone show you in person, and learn hands on.

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 10:42:23 PM   
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It feels like a hot massage..its such a rush..I also play with flash cotton..which magicians use in their magic acts..place delicate strands of the flash cotton in elaborate designs on the skin, lighting one end and then watching and feelign the flame travel to ohh such yummy places.....thrilling!

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 11:01:55 PM   
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i've seen fire play a few times and am very interested in it....*side question is there any certian way to approch your Master about trying something new?...or is a simple ...Master how do You feel about fire play ?..sufficient?

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/26/2007 11:06:22 PM   
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i've seen fire play a few times and am very interested in it....*side question is there any certian way to approch your Master about trying something new?...or is a simple ...Master how do You feel about fire play ?..sufficient?

There is no "one" way to do anything in the lifestyle. However, my advice to subs is to always let your dominant make the decision. That means give the dom the information and then accept the dom's choice.
Why not "Sir, I've been reading about fire play and I'm very interested in it. Do you have any experience in fire play? I would like to try it."
Then let him decide if he wants to learn more, find a mentor, let you feel it under someone else's more experienced hands, or if fire is just a hard limit for him and he says "no, we won't do fire play."
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RE: Fire Play? - 4/27/2007 12:39:41 AM   
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oh cool, i never thought i'd hear of cupping again after my one job, lol, but should i be so surprized that the one place it would surface was CM? and wow, mixing fire-dancing with play was so much fun, but Elorin's expiriences sound amaxing-              Phoenix

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RE: Fire Play? - 4/27/2007 12:51:00 AM   
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A description of a fireplay scene with M from the 2005 GWNN Bash play party.

I found a platform, and WW said we were going to do fire play. YUM! I love fire so much! So of course, off comes everything I so painstakingly put on. Corset, skirt, panties, stockings, boots. Nothing but me, and he began to play with the violet wand. My breasts, my nipples (tender still from the attention of the wand the night before), my belly button, my nose (he's sadistic), my scalp (he knows I hate that), my arms, my legs and hips, and my feet. Ooh my feet. He turns the intensity all the way up and I squirm and wiggle in delight. Then he turned it down again and headed for my inner thighs and mound. I was determined to take whatever he could give, and I fought and wiggled and whimpered and cried but I took the sparks to my skin until he relented. Then he went for the flaming liquid. I hopped down and headed for my bag to get a clip to put my hair up, and laid down.

We have so much fun with fire.. We had gathered a little group of onlookers because the table was so close to the edge of the play floor, but I was mostly able to tune them out. Flaming nipples, a circle around my belly button, fire down my legs. He put the liquid in my belly button and lit it. I squealed, I squirmed, I moaned as the licks of hot flame flashed across my flesh. Then my feet. Oh delight of delights. Flaming toes. I love fire and the violet wand on my feet. I wiggled and delighted and he blew them out. I heard someone behind me just a gigglin. Apparently she was enjoying watching.

I flipped onto my stomach and the flames licked across my back. M pushes me harder on my back because I can't try to put stuff out. I arch and squirm, and it is like a symphony of motion and sound and flame and the zap of the wand. And his hand, wiping out the flame, or slapping it out, or calming my body. And the giggle moments. Fire on my feet makes me feel like I'm five sometimes, and my voice reflects it, and I giggle and say "Do it again Daddy!" Fire down my legs is hot and erotic and makes me arch and moan. Liquid on my ass that won't light takes me out of space and we talk and laugh softly to one another. Then back to flame that makes me moan and drives me back into my headspace.

Back onto my back and he has an evil glint in his eyes. I spread my legs at his direction, and he lays the fuel down along my outer labia. I flick one finger onto the landing strip of hair I have there, and he lights my pussy. Both sides, a warmth that is hot and scary and overwhelming and not enough, all at the same time. An order to orgasm. He does a few more flames on my belly, and then we are done he says.

I have no idea how long we played. I know at some point I lifted my head to two men who were talking loudly and said "Do you mind? We're trying to play here, thank you!" At some point some gal tried to talk to Sir, and he said "Feel free to ask me questions when we are done, we are playing right now."

But I puddle onto my knees on the floor and try to help as best as I'm able. While Sir packs up and puts away toys, I spray the table down with bleachwater and wipe it down, because I can lean on it. I crawl around it and spray it, and then I pick my things up and Sir and I walk back to our table, him supporting me. I find my fishnet pants and pull them on, and Sir sends me after a drink for him. I spill the Coke, and mindlessly find napkins to mop it up. I'm not sure who helped. Someone tried to talk to me. I don't know who. I was in that floating glowy state and Sir wanted Coke durn it! I brought it back to him and we headed to the smoking room where he had a cigarette and I just purrred my way through coming down from my headspace in his company.


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RE: Fire Play? - 4/27/2007 7:09:38 AM   
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Actually burning is only supposed to happen when you're branding someone or such- not supposed to happen during actual fire play interestingly enough.

I love it as a top, not really into it as a bottom.  I'm usually just cold most of the time since I'm naked, and the firedoesn't really do anything for me mentally as a bottom and when I DO feel anything it jsut feels itchy and over the top- even cupping.

But as a top, I love playing with the fire- whether it's flogging, or with my hands, connecting with a bottom through fire is extremely intense for me.

It's also a type of play I would discourage someone from doing unless they had a few hours of serious training and practice and not something to do solo for the most part.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_677255/mpage_1/key_fire/tm.htm#678610
Fireplay for the first time

http://www.collarchat.com/m_377899/mpage_1/key_fire/tm.htm#377937
Fireplay?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_217676/mpage_1/key_fire%252Cplay/tm.htm#217752
Fire play instructions?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_172482/mpage_1/key_fire%252Cplay/tm.htm#174573
Fire play



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RE: Fire Play? - 4/27/2007 8:52:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Actually burning is only supposed to happen when you're branding someone or such- not supposed to happen during actual fire play interestingly enough.




Actually, Devil's Fire, which more people are experiencing as a part of fireplay is a micro-branding. In addition, burning can be a part of fireplay if that is what is desired. Master has deliberatly touch burned me during fireplay but this is not a technique we include in our workshops or demos.


Some techniques we enjoy (I top and bottom for fireplay..he tops): sparklers, fire cupping, fire cupping with needle balls, fire spanking (using a special glove), body transfers, flash cotton, forced fire eating, spritz fire balls, ..we often experiment with new techniques.

As stated by others..not a skill set to learn on your own.


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RE: Fire Play? - 4/27/2007 11:31:07 AM   
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I personally love fire play weather it be actual setting me on fire, fire batons, fire cupping or fire flogging. I have to say for me the fire flogging is the most intense and enjoyable.

aurora

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RE: Fire Play? - 5/4/2007 6:00:09 PM   
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Obviously I'm still learning some about fire play but I love the ol' "Master please don't ___insert kink here____ me."

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