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MariaB -> Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 5:35:08 AM)

Ok perhaps I shouldn’t be moaning about this but its starting to annoy me. I am not a person that goes into chat on a regular basis. I occasionally slip into a room for a few minutes (maybe I shouldn’t) but sometimes there are good open discussions going on and when that happens its interesting.
I have got to know a few of the people from here and in the very short time I have been on this site I have already met up and had coffee with 2 of them. Both I got talking to in the chat room and both of them did not live very far away from me. To me that’s a real positive.
The negative is the amount of unfriendliness from some of the other Mistresses. I do believe that Im friendly. I would hate to think I had offended or upset someone, I am always polite and yet some of the Mistresses in chat talk down to you like your something on the bottom of their shoe!  
Why would people do that?




NakedGirlScout -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 5:39:49 AM)

Oh, it isn't just Mistresses who do that, and miserable people with piss-poor attitudes come in all flavors, even vanilla.

The reason that a greater proportion of Mistresses would have bad online attitudes could have something to do with a few of the other threads we've been posting on lately: that they're only pretending to be dominant women, and may even really be men posing as women, but in either case they're not who they say they are and their imaginary vision of how to behave as a dominant woman involves being haughty and condescending and plain rude. I'd take common boorishness and inability to get along with others as a red flag with anyone who claimed to be a dominant.




MariaB -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 6:21:01 AM)

Thanks Naked GirlScout I think you have probably touched on a lot of truth there and it was the way I was thinking for two reasons.

in real life I find other Mistresses to be extremely friendly (not all of course but the majority). A bit like a sisterhood really! Occasionally you will get an off one but it is often to do with their own insecurities about being dominant (fear of being found out)
Male dominants (not all but its definitely a male thing) tend to be much more competitive than their female counterparts when it comes to impressing a potential sub. I have often seen one male dominant being off with another when they see a female in the pipeline. I see this a lot in real life as much as I do online.


    I am not going to jump to the conclusion that every female online dominant that is off with another of her own sex is really a man because like you said, some people are just plain rude and the power trip has just gone to their head!, but I certainly see male characteristics in some of them.




    undergroundsea -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 6:45:09 AM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MariaB
    Male dominants (not all but its definitely a male thing) tend to be much more competitive than their female counterparts when it comes to impressing a potential sub.


    Male subs do it too. I was at a munch and this new domme showed up.

    So I walked up to a male sub and said. Hey! Dude! You and me! Thumbwrestling! Right now!

    So as I was having my thumbwrestling match and these two people came and stood between the domme and us! And I won! But she did not see my victory. So then I leaned in and said to the male sub, hey let's move around these people and do it again. And the second time, he won! And now that she had seen him win, the other guy would not go for a best of three!

    So then I went up to the domme and said, I bet you didn't see the first match where I won. Oh. And Hi. My name is Sea.

    She just laughed and said. Yes. You are right, I didn't see that. I only saw you lose.

    I had to leave in shame.

    Cheers,

    Sea




    slaveluci -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 6:55:28 AM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MariaB
    I am always polite and yet some of the Mistresses in chat talk down to you like your something on the bottom of their shoe!  
    Why would people do that?

    Probably because these boards and chat rooms are simply a microcosm of the world at large and there are plenty of rude, condescending people everywhere you look.  Haven't you met people in person who are rude jerks no matter how polite you are to them?  i certainly wouldn't expect any better in the realm of online where people often feel freer to be bigger a-holes than when face-to-face [:D]. 

    As for it being only mistresses, that's certainly not the case.  Masters, mistresses, subs, and slaves are all equally likely to be offensive.  (As a matter of fact, THE most offensive folks i've encountered online have almost all been other subs/slaves).  It simply depends on the person.  When someone - regardless whether it's a mistress or not - talks down to me like i'm worthless, i can give as good as i get.  My Master - who owns me and knows He can treat me in any manner He chooses - does not condescend to me or treat me as having no value.  Some stranger is certainly not going to without an appropriate response.  As to the best response:  for me, it's simply to state my rebuttal and then ignore them.  As my sig line says: "DISMISS what insults your soul" and it insults my soul to be treated as if i'm "less than" by some stranger who doesn't even begin to have a clue as to who i am..........slave luci 




    stockingluvr54 -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 7:40:36 AM)

    Just my opinion.... I don't care who or what anyone is but a little respect and politeness goes along way. I sure as hell can't give it if I don't get some in return......




    MiladyAngelique -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 9:47:20 AM)

    Hi Maria,

    I am a long time chatter both on here, yahoo, msn, chatnet, dalnet etc etc (this is my 10th year of chatting I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed anyway...) You will find rude people everywhere, sometimes you can go into a room and they will all greet you happily as though you are an old friend, and some rooms wait for you to join in the conversation. The room I chat in here on collarme tends to be a mix, we will say hi and then wait for you to join in.

    Something that does annoy myself and many other chatters is fly bys, people who jump say hi then leave. After awhile you get to know the nick and you don't bother to say hi because they won't join in.

    As for the negativity from the other Dommes, all I can say is they are human and you get your nice ones and your not so nice ones. My biggest suggestion don't go to the big rooms you will get lost in the crowd, try smaller boutique rooms and look for ones with interesting topics. Get to know the people in there, and you can make some wonderful friends who can last a lifetime (there are still some people I chat with from when I first joined even though that chat room no longer exists)

    best of luck






    trampledslave1 -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 10:33:37 AM)

    i am somthing on the bottom of their shoe, but i'm a slave and expect to be treated that way by Dommes, but i think most of the time Dommes treat Dommes with mutial respect




    imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 10:49:52 AM)

    as someone fairly new here i can fully appreciate what you are saying MariaB. Some poeple are just buttheads...and some poeple have their own circle they tend it stick with....and some people are warm and welcoming..... i gravitate to the latter and tolerate the others....LOL




    MariaB -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/27/2007 12:39:55 PM)

    Thanks for the replies. Im glad its not just me!
    Im not a flyby in the chat rooms. I like to chat in main (not cyber, I tend to stay away from those rooms) and I have been made very welcome by most of the regulars. It’s a small minority that seem to have this rude attitude and it doesn’t really bother me unless they home in on me.
    It did get to me yesterday or perhaps I would be better using the word ‘baffle’




    LadyPact -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/28/2007 6:32:11 AM)

    For some reason, I've never been able to access chat here.  Been one of My long time questions.




    LadyIce -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/28/2007 3:06:32 PM)

    It is not you at all Maria, I enjoy going to the CM chats and I find the behavior normally strange.
    I tend to observe, there seems to be a lot of drama in the rooms.




    MistressSassy66 -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/28/2007 4:02:30 PM)

    The rudeness of O/others is the reason I dont bother with chat rooms.
    Even though they can be interesting, for Me its just not worth it.

    I have to agree with above posters that there are rude people everywhere.




    LadyHugs -> RE: Is it just me or............... (4/28/2007 4:34:21 PM)

    Dear MariaB, Ladies and Gentlemen;
     
    Respect is earned--not a given.  Unfortunately, some individuals feel entitled to respect due to picking a Dominant title and or have't found their place in the larger scheme of things.  But, I will say as a seasoned and old style Dominant woman, I've paid my dues the long and hard way prior to the Internet Chat rooms and play party mentality and or kinky sex mentality some people bring in with them.
    What plucks my last nerve with other Dominants, are the younger Dominants trying to publicly out Dominate a more seasoned Dominant.
    To me that is rude.  If I did that to a more senior Dominant in my day I would be sitting tenderly on an enlarged area.  Perhaps those days--manners were taught, used and enforced and not such the Political Correctness that nobody knows what is correct anymore, as the standards are lacking of what will be tolerated and won't be tolerated.  I do not know if such youthful Dominants understand how they present themselves and how they behave really affects their reputation more than the people they brow-beat.  Sadly, I have some canes that are older then some of these female Dominants. 
     
    Being a Dominant is not a vehicle for competition.  Unfortunately, some make it into a sport, as to see how much they can entice away from another Dominant or get a stable full of admirers.  I wonder outloud if having titles for this or that within the community, is more of a vote of a popularity contest instead of picking a representative that brings knowledge, skill, good intent and spirit to rally the community and live to the epitome of standards of what the title originally stood for.  Now days, titles seem to be skewed and only a resume` booster.  Yet, occasionally a good representative comes from the drama and represents the title well.
     
    There are those Dominants who need attention and must be the loud noise and full of drama, as to draw attention away from others onto themselves.  These people often are the ones who complain loudly about others and do not stay quiet long enough to hear what they are saying, to which might be the answer to the problems.
     
    Yet, the quiet and unassuming Dominants may have more knowledge, power and inspiration in their pinky then a clutch of Dominants sitting in council and or at a meeting; wearing titles and presenting across the Nation.  Something to think about.
     
    There are many seasoned Dominants about, who don't have anything to prove and have the mileage earned, they have been Final Leather and properly entitled to their status.  Unfortunately, some demand from me and other seasoned dominants; the information, knowledge and or skills which were earned by doing.  Forgotten is my/our right to keep our knowledge, information and or skills to ourselves and, is not subjected to pressure of others who won't walk the journey to be Final Leather.  When unwilling to share, for whatever reason-- its met with ugly attitudes and behaviors as well as attacks on individual's reputations.  To me, I don't need the drama.  People need to start learning for themselves, instead of being book wise--they need to be life wise.  Nobody can ever walk the path I took and nobody can have the advantages I had and or disadvantages.
     
    I disagree with the term of being in a "sisterhood" as that is too close and personal.  And, how some behave -- I would want to divorce from such a 'sisterhood.'  Again, it has to do with respect.  It is lacking in so many areas its disturbing to me.
     
    That said, it will come to be the time when I'm dust and those who currently have youth like my parents complained about my generation and my generation that are parents sound like their parents--its called maturity.  I'm sure it will continue until time ends.
     
    There will always be attention vampires, emotionally bankrupt and mentally wasted who draws the life out of others who have a giving and or gentle nature about them.  One has to draw the line as to how much energy such draws out of your internal stores, emotionally, mentally and or physically.  Drama is always about such individuals.
    If one wishes a peaceful way--its necessary to remove yourself away from such energy vampires. 
     
    Just some thoughts.
     
    Respectfully submitted for consideration with bits of wit,
    Lady Hugs
     
     




    LadyPact -> RE: Is it just me or............... (5/2/2007 11:01:41 AM)

    Lady Hugs,

    This was an excellent piece.  You made a lot of points that I have often thought of but lacked Your ability to put into words.  It seems that in cyber world, anyone can wake up one day, decide they are a Dominant, create themselves a profile, and are suddenly a self proclaimed Master/Mistress.  It doesn't seem to matter that they've never had a sub, owned a slave, done any training, had any mentoring, or a score of other things I could rattle off.  The arrogant attitude that often comes across  too often in this area is mind blowing.  They've named themselves as such, and seem to think they deserve the same level of respect that has been earned after years of experience.

    Now, before anyone gets into a huff, I'm not saying this relates to everyone just getting into the lifestyle.  We were all new once.  But, there is such a HUGE difference between someone who says they are new, admits that they have much to learn, and seeks guidance, rather than the "I am Dom/me, hear Me roar" type.  The word humility comes to mind.  More often than not, I'm less likely to have much to say the louder someone needs to proclaim themselves to be.

    I will disagree with one point.  Books can be a good place to start.  There's something to be said for a minimal attempt to learn something before being the new fish in a big pond.  If nothing else, it's a way to learn a little terminology before heading out into a new experience where knowing the meaning behind a phrase or two might help with a level of understanding.  Might save the embarrassment of having to ask what every little thing is that comes into contact for the first time.  There are plenty of other mistakes to make.  (And, now that I've said that, I can't help but to think of some of My own, and laugh at Myself a bit.)

    Thank you, Lady Hugs, for Your eloquence in this matter.  I hope I didn't hijack the thread, but a good explanation is worth recognizing.




    joyinslavery -> RE: Is it just me or............... (5/2/2007 11:03:48 AM)

    My standard answer is...

    Because chatrooms generally suck.




    Action -> RE: Is it just me or............... (5/2/2007 11:21:49 AM)

    Dear MissHugs,

    As a very young Dominant in this community and trying to reach out for someone to look up to and learn from I have to say your line of thought on the subject really blew me away. I think in a way its really the sort of answer and outlook I've been looking and it really enlightened me deeply. Thank you kindly for your peice of mind here and may I say personaly I will put your thoughts into work in my life and learning as a Mistress. I hope to earn the respect some have though thier hard work, and long time of education under other Dominants, I humbly hope to find such a teacher.

    -Action




    DianeB269 -> RE: Is it just me or............... (5/2/2007 11:41:36 AM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MariaB


    The negative is the amount of unfriendliness from some of the other Mistresses. I do believe that Im friendly. I would hate to think I had offended or upset someone, I am always polite and yet some of the Mistresses in chat talk down to you like your something on the bottom of their shoe!  
    Why would people do that?



    Same here.....They seem to think they own that chatroom.


    Diane




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