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bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 6:48:59 AM

tammy10ac

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I am quite new to BDSM. Am I right in thinking that much of the art is to form a bond between the sensations of pain, and pleasure so that when you intensify one, the other is elevated with it?

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 7:23:09 AM

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Yes, essentially you are correct. The basis is in the endorphins found in everyone. They are what cause us to feel both pleasures and pains. It is not so much an elevation of these feelings as a combination of them; confusing the body so that both pleasure and pain become intermixed.

This is a radical oversimplification. lol. But it is the basic concept.

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 7:38:51 AM

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I've never really tried to bond pleasure and pain.

When I'm being sadistic, I use pleasure as a way to arouse my partner so that they are able to endure more pain.

It is true, however, that in the long term this kind of play can cause the mind and body to interpret pain as pleasureful. It still almost always hurts when you stub your toe though.

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 8:41:48 AM

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I never thought much about this, really. I love the pain vs. pleasure sensation...but I believe it is not because I want to unite them or to use arousal to encourage more pain tolerance but because I want to give surprise and keep him on his toes. I like knowing he hasn't a clue as to what comes next. Will it be my flogger or a kiss, a slap or a tickle?

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 9:17:06 AM

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Tammy, to add to SirDominic's post ... I think too, what we call 'pain', ultimately becomes the pleasure it is because the endorphins allow them to feel the impact, the cut, the bite, the sting, the feather, the sexual touch, the whispered word...as a sensation, that may or may not be nice. By the time they have processed it, their endorphins have kicked in and it feels nice, it was a rush. More please Mistress.

Working more or less the same for pain that is or is always feared, rather than feeling 'nice' as a result, there is relief.

Either way pain is a high, the endorphins are doing their thing.

The trick is to learn now to process that pain and ride wave of the endorphins in rather than than fighting the pain and falling off ya surfboard.

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 9:27:27 AM

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And one comment to add to those already presented. Often the recipient of pain can experience sincere and considerable amounts of pleasure in knowing that he/she is providing pleasure for his/her partner. I think that often, when a strong connection is established between partners, that pain can be taken beyond tolerating, to pleasure, even if the same pain might not be enjoyed if the bond between two did not exist.

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 9:43:54 AM

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 9:47:37 AM

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I guess it's true that language fails us in describing the expeirience of a deep intense session. Often people think of pain as the sensation of a toothache or stubbing your toe. In a deep play session it's more a matter of just very intense sensation. Roller coaster rides come to mind, they put your body into conditions both uncomfortable and unfamiliar, but you walk away feeling wonderful strengthened and empowered. The bonding expeirience is lacking in roller coaster rides, but that's the closest anology I can make before i've had my coffee. LOL

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 11:44:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: tammy10ac
I am quite new to BDSM. Am I right in thinking that much of the art is to form a bond between the sensations of pain, and pleasure so that when you intensify one, the other is elevated with it?

That's a lot of what masochism is about.

Not so much anything else.

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RE: bonding sensations - 4/28/2007 12:54:06 PM

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Well, one time I had some kind of rash like jock itch, and I decided to experiment by dabbing it with alcohol. I was already mildly aroused, and the sting of the alcohol made it intensify imediately. I just figured that must be the basic consept of masocism.

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