Termyn8or
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Externally imposed morality is rampant, as it will be in a crowded society.
I care not about that.
My boss found a wallet on the ground with almost two grand cash in it. OK, he has his own money, he did not take it. He took it personally to it's owner. They say drop it in a mailbox, but that assumes EVERY mailman is honest. A couple hundred maybe, a couple thousand ? I dunno.
That guy's morality should've made him throw the finder a couple hundred. If someone found my wallet with a couple thou in it, and gave it back, I would throw them a couple hundred. Really. Even if it was someone else's money, or earmarked. I would have to stand good for it, but then, I am the one who lost the wallet right ? And I was damn lucky to get it back right ?
At the two grand mark I would give the 200. I would say "Is that cool ? You want another one ?". Remember I could be sitting there with nothing.
Now consider this, why did the guy return my money ? If morality is externally imposed, keep the money and dump the wallet into a mailbox. Right ? Nobody will know.
Here's the real reason folks. If a guy has two grand in the wallet, he has money. Even drug dealers ith that kind of money don't have it in a wallet with several credit cards and a driver's license. They have it balled up in a special way that make it easy to give change. Never in a wallet.
By returning the wallet with ALL the money in it, you gain the trust of someone with money. Now that doesn't mean that you intend to screw the guy later, but the trust of people with money is a valuable thing, whether it comes in the form of pulling a royal scam on them or simply their presenting new opportunities for you. People with money need people they can trust.
Let's change channels. You are a female teacher and you have the hots for a male student. You connect. Now I was thinking of a model using a male teacher and a female student, but if you watch the news.......but let me take it to a totally different level. Sometimes people go back to school, whatever, and there is a distinct possibility that in some cases the teacher and student might be the same age.
In my head, it is not really age alone, it is position. I would probably say something like "If you want me get out of this school, and I don't mean quit or transfer, I mean graduate. At that time if I am free we can go out". It is a serious conflict of interest, even if it is legal.
There are points of morality that are internal for all, well almost. Say you borrow a friend's car, run someone over, get back to their house real quick and "We gota go". Let them get busted for hit and run. I would never do that, but actually someone could get away with it.
A big part of my standard is 'would I like that to happen to me ?'.
But all this works without any really predifined rules. We would never need religion or law, we created the need. People survived without it, proof positive lies in our very existence.
So somewhere down the line people gained some loyalty to one another, started working together.
And that was the proverbial road to hell paved with good intentions. Believe it or not. When collectivism wins over individualism, we lose as a race. That is fact. In a way it is a paradox, and a big one.
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