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Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 4:53:38 AM   
sadomasokisti


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I'm a little bit curious about the length of time you usually keep your partner suspended (vertical, horizontal or tilting back or front) in rope bondage.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 5:14:37 AM   
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those factors are not as important as the actual bindings & proper circulation

what is crucial is making sure you have not created any pinches at the points where the weight is being supported

also keep in mind that pressing any boney areas together is quite painful

When all else fails, ask the person being suspended. They will let you know when enough is enough.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 6:37:38 AM   
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I've seen several suspension bondages performed (and done some Myself and assisted with some). It does depend on the position and the factors MsPassion mentioned, and especially whether breathing is restricted simply due to the weight of the body or the way the arms are restrained behind the back etc. I've seen positions held for anything from 5 mins to 30 mins, but not much more than that. The latter was a very light person suspended with a lot of rope around many parts of her body - almost like she was in a gossamer web - so there was very little pressure on any one part. I suspect she felt she could have remained 'flying' forever, but her very experienced bondage Dom decided that was enough! I agree with asking, but there is also a need for wise judgement if the sub is flying in space and may lack appropriate judgement of their own situation.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:03:54 AM   
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I am also curious, as this may be something I'd like to try. Any links?

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:16:27 AM   
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try googling Master Z Chicago and Rigger MorTis  I know both of these people personally and can attest to the methods.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:29:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I am also curious, as this may be something I'd like to try. Any links?


Preferably, you shouldn't be learning suspension from the internet, but through a hands-on class, or at least make sure you have a damn good understanding of both bondage safety and physics. Apart from the already mentioned circulation problems it's very very easy to gove your sub permanent nerve damage or a broken spine doing suspensions.If you want to go there, please do cinsider the risks thoroughly and study, studym study before tou try it.

With regard to the OP: The longest my partner held a horizontal suspension was near an hour (once). Normally she would be in it for anything between 20 to 40 minutes, Then again, we do this a lot and also have done a few suspension shows at fetish parties. For most people 30 minutes would be long, and to start with a few minutes would be fine.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:30:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I am also curious, as this may be something I'd like to try. Any links?


Hi kitte9,

Here is one link for you showing different rope bondages for you but i cannot find the suspension bondage tutorial. I had to reformat and lost all my links.

http://www.ropefashions.com/fashions2/index.php?lang=en&theme=default

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:38:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Guilty1974

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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I am also curious, as this may be something I'd like to try. Any links?


Preferably, you shouldn't be learning suspension from the internet, but through a hands-on class, or at least make sure you have a damn good understanding of both bondage safety and physics. Apart from the already mentioned circulation problems it's very very easy to gove your sub permanent nerve damage or a broken spine doing suspensions.If you want to go there, please do cinsider the risks thoroughly and study, studym study before tou try it.

With regard to the OP: The longest my partner held a horizontal suspension was near an hour (once). Normally she would be in it for anything between 20 to 40 minutes, Then again, we do this a lot and also have done a few suspension shows at fetish parties. For most people 30 minutes would be long, and to start with a few minutes would be fine.



oh definately. This link was for from my Master but he has had over 10 years experience with this. Good point Sir.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:41:22 AM   
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Beside the things that have already been mentioned, check to make sure the suspended is not getting tingling or numbness, that particular limbs are not turning colder or darker than the rest of their body.
Nerve damage is particularly likely when weight or stress is placed on the wrists.
It is not just tight ropes that cause problems with circulation. Keeping limbs above the heart for over 20 minutes will affect the blood to the heart.
So long as the body is well elevated (considering limbs above the heart) and the weight is evenly distributed in suspension then half an hour should be fine.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/29/2007 11:55:03 AM   
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Nerve damage is particularly likely when weight or stress is placed on the wrists.


That's quite a vulnerable spot, yet in most cases I've heard of so far of nerve damage as a result from a horizontal suspension, the nerve damaged was the result from
either nerve compression in the upper arms where the nerves to the fingers and thumb run close to the skin (and where it's easy to misplace the ropes of the japanese style takate kote harness) or from nerve damage to a nerve in the upper leg resulting in loss of sensation in the knee area.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/30/2007 11:43:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sadomasokisti

I'm a little bit curious about the length of time you usually keep your partner suspended (vertical, horizontal or tilting back or front) in rope bondage.


That quesetion is tougher to answer than you think.  Sometimes hours. however, thats only after a lot of experience with the same sub and knowing her body well as well as changing positions often. The sub might be suspended for lets say two hours but durring that time period may be suspended in 6-8 slightly different positions.  I try to change the ropes roughly every 20-30 minutes max .... if its upside down than its usually only about ten minutes. Belive it or not there is so much to pay attention to durring suspention that although the sub is totally getting off on it .. it takes a lot away from the sexual pleasure and turns it more into tech. Its definatly an art form that takes practise and knowledge of what is going on with the other persons body. I have found that you can never truly trusts the subs judgment as they are usually in the more more more catagory even if things do start to turn purple. You have to go into it with a complete game plan of options as to what is going to happen and set it up in such a way that you can change the suspention point quickly or reinforce the suspention point quickly. It does not take long to figure out that you have someones life in your hands and you cant afford to fuck it up so no cutting any safty procedures no matter how anoying they may be and  you cant allow yourself ever to become really comfortable with suspending someone.

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RE: Rope bondage - suspension - 4/30/2007 11:57:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

those factors are not as important as the actual bindings & proper circulation

what is crucial is making sure you have not created any pinches at the points where the weight is being supported

also keep in mind that pressing any boney areas together is quite painful

When all else fails, ask the person being suspended. They will let you know when enough is enough.


Exactly what I was thinking.
And will add the importance of circulation being maintained at all times.
Any numbing of hands or feet is a good indication enough is enough.

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