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Proof of a fake - 5/2/2005 8:11:54 PM   
submissivesilk


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Status: offline 		If i am aware that a "Master" is misrepresenting himself, and i actually have proof, should i notify Admin? Do they actually do anything about this? And if i should, how do i go about it?


thank you
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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/2/2005 8:30:52 PM   
stef


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Forget them and move on.

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/2/2005 8:33:53 PM   
glassdoll


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Status: offline 		if it will seriously endanger anyone, do concact admin.

however, if he's just lying, who cares?

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/2/2005 9:40:14 PM   
sputniklove


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Status: offline 		Well said, who cares...

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/4/2005 3:46:58 PM   
tasteofhunney


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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/4/2005 4:16:34 PM   
ProtagonistLily


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quote:

if it will seriously endanger anyone, do concact admin.

however, if he's just lying, who cares?


And what if she's lying?

This is a public forum. Take it all with a grain of salt. Sometimes, you get lucky and you meet people who actually are how they represent themselves, but for the most part, it's a real crap shoot.

Lily

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/4/2005 7:57:50 PM   
slavedesires


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sputniklove

Well said, who cares...



obviously silk cares.

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/4/2005 8:07:56 PM   
ProtagonistLily


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quote:

if it will seriously endanger anyone, do concact admin.

however, if he's just lying, who cares?


Out of curiosity, how would you prove this? How would you verify that the accuser was telling the truth? How would you expect the admins of a free site to condemn this person?

Lily

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/4/2005 8:27:38 PM   
slavedesires


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Status: offline 		oh Lily......... .............

you live up to your protagonist name

Maybe she can prove this jerk is "misrepresenting himself" and is fearful for others, not just a ratfink, but truly alarmed for others.

And why would anyone want to condemn another?

silk never did explain...so why the drama ?

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/5/2005 8:10:57 PM   
submissivesilk


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Status: offline 		One way i know for sure is i found the picture he was using as his own on another site. Same exact picture, he just photoshopped his head on to it.

i never said he was a threat to anyone, i just wanted to know if Admin did anything about this type of thing and if so, how do i contact them with the info.

Thank goodness i was not interested in this man, i just happened across an ad and recognized the pose as he seems to be online quite a bit and his profile pops of often.

Imagine if it were YOU who was interested in him. Thats all i could think. Some poor soul who is searching for herself may run across him and be hurt.

It's easy to say who cares and thats easy for me to answer. I do care about others. That is the reason for the "drama"

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/6/2005 4:16:06 AM   
FuriousAngel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivesilk

Imagine if it were YOU who was interested in him. Thats all i could think. Some poor soul who is searching for herself may run across him and be hurt.

It's easy to say who cares and thats easy for me to answer. I do care about others. That is the reason for the "drama"


I can understand your situation as I too have been in a position where I held information about a Dominant that was factual and could be proved to show that he grossly misrepresents himself. There comes a point where you have to realize that you can't save the world. People could spend the rest of their lives playing the hero and warning others about those who lurk online practicing deceit. To me, all you are really going to do is create havoc in your own world ... for what? The person will disappear and emerge under another handle, or you will find yourself in some ridiculous cyberwar, possibly even with people you've never met.

Ask me if I care about others? Yes, I do and it frustrates me at times to think that submisives may fall 'victim to the game'. But I also care about myself, my own peace and carefully selecting where I choose to focus my energy in life, particularly in this journey through D/s. I also know in my heart that if the submissives pay attention and keep one eye trained on reality, they will see it themselves as it's very obvious. If they don't 'see it'? Then it's because they are choosing not to as they want too badly to believe in the pretty words on their screens. In those cases, nothing you can say will make a difference anyways.

I feel we are all responsible for ourselves, both as Dominants and submissives. I confess I'm somewhat jaded and cynical now to people's plights online. I don't wish to demean those who pursue relationships and emotions via this route as it happens whether we like it or not at times. However, I have learned the hard way that for me, it's absolutely necessary to get out from behind that monitor, and meet r/t before allowing any feelings to develop. In my personal opinion, the sooner the 'poor souls' realize this when it comes to their online travels? The better off they will be. Some times though ... ya just gotta learn the hard way!

I vote you not allow it to rent another moment's space in your head and just go with the idea that the majority of what you encounter online is probably a misrepresentation anyways. You just might not have proof yet. Don't hate the playa...hate the game!

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/6/2005 5:44:09 AM   
ProtagonistLily


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quote:

oh Lily......... .............

you live up to your protagonist name

Maybe she can prove this jerk is "misrepresenting himself" and is fearful for others, not just a ratfink, but truly alarmed for others.

And why would anyone want to condemn another?

silk never did explain...so why the drama ?


People do funny things. I've seen subs get a bug up their arse and decide to bad mouth Dom/mes, and vice versa. The human ego is delicate; people react to it's bruises in all kinds of ways.

Unsafe, jerk, alarming, ratfink...all subjective. There are people I won't play with for a variety of reasons; there are even a couple that I feel are unsafe. I don't run around with a sign that says "Master/Mistress Dickwad is unsafe." If someone asks me, I'll tell them my opinion, but I assume that if someone's accepted in the community and plays in the scene and is not hard up for people to play with, then perhaps they just weren't right for me to play with.

We are 32 flavors and then some. I think it's very important to not only be risk aware, but self honest when dealing with people in the scene. By running around badmouthing people, it can create problems for you rather than be a service to the community.

Lily


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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/6/2005 6:07:45 AM   
FuriousAngel


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Status: offline 		If I might also add to your words, I'd like to say that I make it a point not to talk about others or share 'information' about anyone I've not personally met. Some may disagree with this choice, but I do not feel it would be right or fair of me to pass along information about a Dominant that I've never met myself, regardless of the truth. To me, that is nothing more or less than gossiping.

As for when I'm approached about people I've met r/t, I still don't divulge personal details. Instead, I choose to repeate their words, doubts and questions back to them with and point out that if they felt a need to track me down to deny or confirm doubts they feel? Then that is all the answer they need, or should need; if it feels wrong, it is, and of course, to trust themselves!

I've been met with everything from respect, to quiet acceptance to outright fury and attack over this approach. I have no intention of re-reading a completed chapter of my life so I can be a hero. It is far too easy in this lifestyle to justify slandering people, even on a whiml I agree with Lily's words about being risk aware, and honest with yourself.

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/7/2005 10:33:26 AM   
slavedesires


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Status: offline 		Right on FuriousAngel in both your posts.

It comes down to personal ethics.

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/7/2005 11:08:22 AM   
BeachMystress


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I understand your desire to help protect others and it is laudable. Too many out there decide something isn't their problem and walk away, letting some other poor unfortunate be burned. Consider this, though. Which person is the real owner of the photo? Unless the guy did a bad job, in which case it is unlikely anyone would be fooled (since you are worried people will be taken in, I assume whichever altered the photo did a good job) or you're an expert in pixel manipulation, it is unlikely you're sure which is the original. Also, I've had people swear up and down that they've seen one of my photos on someone else's site. When I've checked, the photos have been similar enough that I understood why the person thought it was mine.


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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/28/2005 2:21:30 PM   
masterdarkthorn


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Status: offline 		Come on now, if I had a nickel for everyone who misrepresented themselves on line I would be a bloody billionaire. If it walks like a snake ...well you know the rest.

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/29/2005 2:28:46 PM   
ModeratorOne


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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/29/2005 11:12:00 PM   
Lepidoptera


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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdarkthorn

Come on now, if I had a nickel for everyone who misrepresented themselves on line I would be a bloody billionaire. If it walks like a snake ...well you know the rest.


You know, it's funny... anyone I've ever talked to for any length of time has proved to be legit. :D

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RE: Proof of a fake - 5/30/2005 1:52:55 AM   
ElektraUkM


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Status: offline 		Good to see that Admin is willing to look into this particular case BUT, even if you managed to prove that one person was a fake, there will still be others out there.

It's really up to us as individuals to be aware that there are liars online (as there are in life generally, only its SO much easier online), and that one needs to take precautions against being taken for a ride. I say this as someone who's been misled a couple of times online and really should have known better! Duh!

Edited to add that I just noticed i'm now Kinky ~ hurrah!

~ Elektra



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RE: Proof of a fake - 6/5/2005 6:14:42 PM   
cutenprettypet


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Status: offline 		question: how do i prove that a person on this site is useing a picture of another person? He emails the picture to the people he talks to online. He took the picture from my boyfriend's profile by saving the photo to his own computer. then he distributes the photo to the girls he talks to saying that is what he looks like. i found this out because he did it to me, and it was a picture of my own boyfriend! Since, my boyfriend has deactivated his profile, but we have no idea of knowing if the imposter is still pretending.
please let me know how to move forward with this issue. ask me questions if needed.
thanks.

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