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need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even collar... - 4/30/2007 8:57:47 AM   
fairdom23


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Im looking to pick up a pair of matching wrist and ankle cuffs. I would like to keep the cost down as i have sene many items like this sell for hundreds of dollars. if possible within or less than 100$ is what i am looking for. basicaly im asking the collarme.com hivemind what cuffs and collars are quality but economical instead of pure junk.
i was looking at this one so far,
http://www.stockroom.com/Black-LockingBuckling-Ankle-Cuffs-P1052.aspx
http://www.stockroom.com/LockingBuckling-Wrist-Cuffs-Black-P1051.aspx
the ones ablve look big and clunky. these are meant  for a female sub.
annyone who has a set that they are happy with and find comfortable please chime in.
oh yea, i would like to have the set to be in black, possibly white, but that will depend on the style.
thanks.


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thile im posting a question about buying things...
i am also looking for a blindfold as well, maybe something along the lines of http://www.stockroom.com/Fleece-Lined-Purple-Leather-Blindfold-P2512.aspx
http://www.stockroom.com/SportSheets-Leather-Blindfold-Black-P1293.aspx


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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 4/30/2007 9:10:09 AM   
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www.lafetishiste.com - she can honor most color requests (tell her Sonnet says hi!)

My set from her is in black with burgandy metallic trim and can be seen here at the bottom of the page: http://www.lafetishiste.com/collar.html

Great stuff, reasonably priced, and she'll work with you to make to your specifications.

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 4/30/2007 10:43:29 AM   
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Im looking to pick up a pair of matching wrist and ankle cuffs. I would like to keep the cost down as i have sene many items like this sell for hundreds of dollars. if possible within or less than 100$ is what i am looking for. basicaly im asking the collarme.com hivemind what cuffs and collars are quality but economical instead of pure junk.
i was looking at this one so far,
http://www.stockroom.com/Black-LockingBuckling-Ankle-Cuffs-P1052.aspx
http://www.stockroom.com/LockingBuckling-Wrist-Cuffs-Black-P1051.aspx
the ones ablve look big and clunky. these are meant  for a female sub.
annyone who has a set that they are happy with and find comfortable please chime in.
oh yea, i would like to have the set to be in black, possibly white, but that will depend on the style.
thanks.


edit:
thile im posting a question about buying things...
i am also looking for a blindfold as well, maybe something along the lines of http://www.stockroom.com/Fleece-Lined-Purple-Leather-Blindfold-P2512.aspx
http://www.stockroom.com/SportSheets-Leather-Blindfold-Black-P1293.aspx



Rather than focus on cost in determining what you buy... you might do yourself & those you plan to use these items on the consideration of ... how do you plan to use these items?

I would need to know this before I could refer you to any

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 4/30/2007 12:16:50 PM   
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the majority of the wrist and ankle cuffs would be used while she is laying down, either on a bed or sofa, tied with rope through the loopholes on the cuffs.
i also want to dabble in using them to restrain her verticaly, such as having ropes draped over a door and securing her to the 4 corners of the door frame.
the collar would be mostly for cosmetic appearance

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 4/30/2007 9:56:36 PM   
fairdom23


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just got annother great recomendation  for the items i am looking for.
http://www.sub-shop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4454


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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 4/30/2007 11:23:24 PM   
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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/1/2007 12:11:57 AM   
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*pulled from my post of a few days ago*
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We got hubby's play collar from Leather Cellar. It is quite well made and good looking! I moved it to the top of http://beachmystress.femdommesociety.com/dommephotoalbum.php if you'd like to see it.
 
All of my crops come from http://www.horsetackco.com/crops,_bats_whips.html since I don't live close enough to a tack shop to easily visit.
 
I second BootBlackBlast's recommendation of Mr S  as a great place to get leather as well as other great BDSM toys and accessories. If you are ever in LA or SF, visit their storefronts as well. 


And while I agree that Stockroom and Extreme Restraints have some good stuff, I find their prices to be a bit expensive. If I shop around, I can usually find what they are selling at a lower price. I just posted a large number of BDSM shopping sites to my blog. You can visit them at http://blog.myspace.com/BeachMystress

There is a special part of that list of shopping sites dedicated to collars and cuffs.

Also, you may want to consider looking at sleep masks for use as blindfolds. http://www.dreamessentials.com/a_mask_mindfold.aspx  They are usually half the price of things sold through BDSM sites. I use the Bucky brand ones http://www.thecompletesleeper.com/servlet/Detail?no=27 and am quite pleased with them. They even have a small built in pocket for ear plugs. They do have a lower end version of the Bucky also, though I've not tried it. http://www.viewit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TVAOS&Product_Code=S890&Affiliate=Froogle35  You can find other versions of sleep masks by googling the words, sleep mask.

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/1/2007 3:54:58 AM   
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have Y/you considered chains and locks? they are inexpensive and can easier be purchased with a stop at the hardware store... i suggest this as an option while Y/you're waiting for the online stuff to get through the mail.      Phoenix

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/1/2007 5:09:03 AM   
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When it comes to wrist and ankle cuffs I was thoroughly impressed by the leather on metal ones from XR (Extreme Restraints).

It is not hard to navigate to them on the website. Go look, and if you think they look good, I can tell you they feel even better. The leather padding is just right.. They don't leave marks, even if you hang from them for a bit. They are the best I've ever had.

XR pissed me off not too long ago, but they sent the cuffs. I have a minor issue with them, but this didn't stop me from getting these. The problems stem from the rubber cuffs, which were not strong enough, not so with these.

These are locking by default, although you could actually use cotter pins or something rather than locks. They do have a matching collar. The set of four is on sale I guess, about $130 for the set.

Tell you what, there is not a gay bone in my body, but I got this kinky friend. Athletic, strong as all hell never lost a fight (I know that is rare, but it is true, I used to spar with this guy). We are talking someone who fell off a two story roof onto a pallet of bricks and broke every one of them, and was back to work within 15 seconds. Strong as hell, like I used to be. Well he met his match in these cuffs. They do not break.

So did I. I have been restrained in them and lemme tellya, if you can see them, thoughts run through your mind like 'how would the fire department get me out of these ?'. I am not kidding. These things are not kidding.

When they come they ae flat, you must bend them. Once done, you may or may not be able to turn your wrists in them. I doubt anyone could rotate their ankles.

I mean it, these things are just about as bad to the bone as they get. The price I consider reasonable in today's market. I can also assure you they are not something made in a basement. Very attactive, very clean appearance, and really functional. There is no escape. I figure even with a hacksaw it would take hours to get out,,,,,of ONE of them.

Any hotties want to come and try them out, cool, but let me warn you, you better trust me, because if you wear these you have to. There is no out.

I should put this warning in my profile. You wanna come try my cuffs I can promise you a good time. I'll lick your clams and all that, but at the end, we have a policy over here a Termy's terminal. It ain't bondage until you want out.

That means you stay in them for about ½ an hour after the fun is over. THAT is bondage, and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it so shutup. THAT is bondage. Go ahead and say that this is exceeding limits, bullshit, you were warned. Not that you can do anything about it anyway :-)

In my four poster rig, even with a hacksaw you might never get out. And you can't work bolt cutters to cut the chains. I mean you are TOTALLY dependent on someone else, or in some cases the ice melting to produce a key. I don't think there is much more secure except for rigidcuffs.

Comfort ? Absolute. You can pull on them all night and they won't leave a mark. And realize, this is from one who has broken plenty of cuffs. Although I haven't tried the Posey, Segufix or Humane restraints, I have broken just about everything else, including those cheap handcuffs. I am telling you these things will not break.

My problems with XR have to do with their inattentiveness. Orders are filled, shipped etc., no problem there, but I bought a set of rubber cuffs that broke so easily it basically wrecked my night.

Between that issue and the fact that I would like the same stainless steel cuffs, but with a rubber liner instead of leather everything is fine. Because of the leather you can't get these things wet.

They do have a matching collar, which I am considering. What is your neck size ?

Boils down to this, these things are the bomb. But be ready, don't get stupid with them. Wire cutters, knives etc., do not work to get them off. Even the fire dept would have alot of trouble, and might just have to let you burn to death. These things are serious.

They have a matching collar, and seriously, the cuffs are the best I have ever seen.

I was kinda joking about coming to try them out, but kinda is the operative word here. Once you realize you are really stuck, even if I had a heart attack and keeled over, it takes the fire dept an hour to get you out. Think about that. And get wet.

THAT is bondage.

And that ½ hour after you get off, when you want out so bad you can taste it, taste it. Savor it.

What's more, that first time will be the most exciting. Because the first time you don't know if I am some kind of psycho or something. And then at the end you don't know if you are EVER going to get released. THAT is bondage. If it happens again you know I am not a psycho, that youi ARE going to get released, but there is nothing like that first time.

I think bondage is bondage when it is secure. And these cuffs fill the bill. I mean when you start thinking how hard it would be to get released without the key, well you know. THAT is bondage.

I don't know the item number, but like I said, they are not hard to find on XR's site. Have fun by all means, but BE CAREFUL, these are extremely secure. (and fun)

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/1/2007 12:49:52 PM   
fairdom23


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i will hold off on purchasing a set of cuffs and collar untill friday or saturday.
so far i am leaning towards the subshop.com pair http://www.sub-shop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4454
however, i do want the cuffs to be very comfortable so i am looking for a good pair of the fur lined ones unless those with the non padded/lined cuffs can vouch that they are indeed comfortable as well.
thanks for all the input thus far.
any more first hand experiences would be greatly appreciated.
thanks

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/1/2007 2:13:21 PM   
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I make cuffs and collars.  Some pics and prices are here:
http://geocities.com/bear59801
Without actually handling them it is difficult to get a handle on the quality of the leather used.  There is a tradeoff between durability and security, and comfort.  Soft leather is comfortable, as is fleece lining.  But it is less secure, and less durable.

Mine are made with 8-10 oz Latigo for durability and security, and supplied either lined or unlined.  I can line with fleece or saddler's felt but prefer to uise a separate lining of soft leather.  I feel that is the best combination of comfort and security.


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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/2/2007 12:23:46 AM   
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when i need inexpensive but reliable leather restraints I also go to www.leatheretc.com

they are known here in SF as being more of an inexpensive mass produced leather store but for costumes and inexpensive gear I go there. We have about 3 or 4 pairs from them. The advantage to using them is they have like 20 different styles and pretty much every color combination under the sun as well as different sizes for different ranges of wrists and ankles.

but i also always recommend www.mr-s-leathers.com for your heavy duty standard live forever but expensive restraints. I love their padded suspension wrist restraints.

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/2/2007 8:28:17 AM   
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www.wolfguardleather.com

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/2/2007 11:04:41 PM   
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We bought a set at Licks and Lashes.  Decent quality, looks nice, comfortable, and within your price range for a full set of cuffs and collar.  I have a metal allergy and needed a set like this that was fully lined.  Have had ours for almost 2 years and they appear almost like new. 

http://www.licksandlashes.com/

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/3/2007 7:57:56 PM   
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My problems with XR have to do with their inattentiveness. Orders are filled, shipped etc., no problem there, but I bought a set of rubber cuffs that broke so easily it basically wrecked my night.



You had a lengthy post and mentioned (twice) that you had issues with XR.

I'm unsure if your problem with them was with the quality of the goods (rubber cuffs breaking) or "inattentiveness" per the above quote.

Am I just not understanding?

If it _is_ quality, you seem to indicate that this only affected one (rubber) set of cuffs and their other gear seemed up to snuff?

I got a nice set of rubber cuffs (for bath, shower, water-play) for my sub from sub-shop. She's in excellent shape and does struggle so quality is important but these held up (other, leather ones, didn't in the past).

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/5/2007 4:00:19 PM   
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im thinking i will order this set tomorow, maybe upgrade the collar's lining to the fur(mink/fox) lining instead of the neaopream stuff.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Restraints-Restraint-Padded-Leather-Wrist-Ankle-Collar_W0QQitemZ290111939873QQihZ019QQcategoryZ88433QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/5/2007 4:38:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fairdom23

im thinking i will order this set tomorow, maybe upgrade the collar's lining to the fur(mink/fox) lining instead of the neaopream stuff.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Restraints-Restraint-Padded-Leather-Wrist-Ankle-Collar_W0QQitemZ290111939873QQihZ019QQcategoryZ88433QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem



You may wanna talk to the owner - he's a member on CM. His gear is aesthetically great and he's highly concerned regarding quality. He and I have recently had discussions of precisely that and he impressed me with the imporance he placed on quality.

Neoprene is a commercial padding found in most things. It's commercial not because it's the cheapest but because it works well and lasts.

Fur may be... pretty but isn't practical for this. Fur looks great on mom but she typically doesn't sweat or have contact with lubrication/semen/blood/urine/whatever while wearing it.

Discuss it with the owner. He'll steer you right. I'm confident in saying you'll be happy with anything you buy from this guy.

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/5/2007 5:07:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fairdom23

the majority of the wrist and ankle cuffs would be used while she is laying down, either on a bed or sofa, tied with rope through the loopholes on the cuffs.
i also want to dabble in using them to restrain her verticaly, such as having ropes draped over a door and securing her to the 4 corners of the door frame.
the collar would be mostly for cosmetic appearance



whatever you do... don't try suspensions with these cheap flimsy types you showed in your first post. You will cause a great deal of harm to her wrists & ankles if you do.

You can't think cheap & ensure safety.

if you want to do suspension you will need to buy suspension cuffs... there is a big difference in both appearance & construction.

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/6/2007 12:11:54 AM   
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Real cuffs suspension cuffs like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=290101909696&rd=1&rd=1

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RE: need a good wrist/ankle cuff set, possibly even col... - 5/6/2007 9:29:06 AM   
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I've seen many styles & the right style for the right person will only be determined by the actual fit.

The point is when it comes to suspension cuffs is that you are not stretching the ligaments of the wrists, applying pressure in a way that could break bones or damage nerves... you want to make sure they have a *quick release connection so that in the case you need to separate the person from the rigging immediately, you can do so with no delay. (*often this is an item that you buy in addition to the cuffs. some are made with this type of clip)

Try searching outside of ebay so that you can see various styles. The basic styles that are preferred can be best described as:

one has a cross bar so that it can be grasped much like if you were doing pull ups

another has a strap that you can grasp in the same way as you would if you were climbing up a rope.

& another is worn much like a fingerless glove & the ring is mounted on the inside of the palm

Which is best depends on the person who will be using the cuff & if their grip is one that can actually assist in supporting their weight. If they are not strong enough to lets say... hold their weight on a pull up bar you might want to reconsider suspension play because this individual's inability to do so could result in their not being able to ensure their own safety.

Suspension play really isn't an activity that should be done by novices & if you are geared toward experimenting then I would suggest you do so with instruction of someone who has experience. It is good to have an uninvolved person to monitor the scene. Someone who knows how to check the bindings as well as the extremities for signs that circulation may be restricted.

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ORIGINAL: EgosumDominus

Real cuffs suspension cuffs like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=290101909696&rd=1&rd=1




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