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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 1:19:37 AM   
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i'm sorry you feel that way

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 2:09:44 AM   
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I am sorry that you feel sorry that I feel any way.

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 5:57:23 AM   
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thank goodness,my label reads submissive and not slave.

Daddy encourages that i try (keyword here try) to lose weight however He prefers that desire to come within me. i have lost inches since i don't i don't have a goal in mind ...and will continue doing so as long i keep what i've doing thus far.  He doesn't place the demand as Dr.'s orders because He knows i'll resist every step of the way.


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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 8:59:01 AM   
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It isn't about doing it to please him, if it was that easy I'd be thinner and pleasing him, me and my doctor. So being told to do this when I've tried off and on my whole life and still can't would be setting me up to fail.

What wouldn't fail would be him saying, okay, let's omit the potatoes from dinner and substitute a second vegetable. Him taking the lead in not buying junk food and him taking the lead in planning to fit a walking program into our lives.

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 9:13:43 AM   
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What wouldn't fail would be him saying, okay, let's omit the potatoes from dinner and substitute a second vegetable. Him taking the lead in not buying junk food and him taking the lead in planning to fit a walking program into our lives.


I totally get that.  If I were a Dom,  I wouldn't say, "lose weight".  However, I wouldn't hesitate to require my submissive share my dietary habits; because seeing her with a healthier body, clear skin and pleasant taste would make us both happy.


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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 11:28:42 AM   
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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 5:08:51 PM   
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I am currently losing weight and i feel so much better and able to serve Master better.  Master wants me with him for a very long time since i am currently diabetic it isnt a good thing.  Yes Master does push me, encourage me.........it is something i asked of him, its a good motivation and also, Master is all worth it in my eyes.  He isnt forcing me, but supporting me.  

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/3/2007 6:04:06 PM   
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I agree with Celeste43 and everything she said.

And have to laugh along with jaxbeachgirl

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 5:59:51 PM   
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I'm currently losing weight at the moment as a condition for surgery (gender reassignment). If my Domme wanted me to lose weight? Well it depends why and how much I weighed and whether it would be harmful for me, but on principle yes.

Why?

1. My Domme wouldn't ask me to do something which would bring me harm or detriment. Of this I am 100% sure. And she would have taken into the consideration all the above issues before asking me and talked about it with me first.

2. Being transgendered and pre-op I'm a work in progress and so I'm changing a lot physically anyway. I have to change physically to be who I really am, so losing weight for my Domme wouldn't be the big issue it would be for non-transgendered people.

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 8:00:23 PM   
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Hello, thinspo. I have struggled with my weight for nearly all of my life.  When my owner first drew me onto the path of enslavement, he knew that I was a big woman.  He had no intention of requiring that I change my body as he chose me because of who and what I was - not what he felt he could change me into.  I think most often that if you (the collective you) begin a relationship with your goals set largely on what you can change about that person rather than what aspects of that person you can enjoy and utilize, then you may be setting yourself up for disappointment.   That isn't to say that a dominant person shouldn't have wishes to mold and shape the other to their desires and will, but something as potentially difficult, sensitive, and resistant like weight loss is a tough go. In the years that we have been together, my owner has watched my struggles.  He has seen me gain, lose, gain, lose etc. and it has been difficult for him *not* to step in and say, "ally, lose X amount of pounds by such-and-such date, period."  There was a period when I was very ill and bedridden (not weight related) and during that time, I gained a great deal of weight.  It was devistating to me and he saw this.  He knows me very well though and understood that in order for me to successfully lose weight in a way that was the most healthy for me both physically AND emotionally, that the biggest and most powerful driving force would have to come from a place deep within my own psyche and heart. We were driving home one night from a party last July.  I said to him, "Master, just 8 years ago, I weighed 100 lbs less than I do now. I still thought I was so huge.  I thought I was a big ol' moo cow.  Now I am sitting here in tears because looking back I wish I had done what I had to do to lose the weight then because now it feels SO monumental and my goal seems so unreachable.  Why didn't I really DO something about this last year?  Or the year before?  Or even 8 years ago?  I wish I could go back in time and try again." To which he replied, "ally, today is the "back in time" for next year and the year after, and even ten years from now.  So do with that what you will." And the next day I began my journey.  No commands, no ultimatums.  He has told me more times than I can remember that he finds me to be valuable and beautiful no matter what size I am - no matter what shape.  I will say, however, that his wisdom and his encouragement were and are invaluable to me. Since July of last year, I have lost nearly 100 lbs.  I did this through watching what I eat (1000-1500 calories per day), becoming more active, and eliminating habitual foods like sugary sodas.  He has supported me, encouraged me, been a strong, guiding hand for me - but he has not once commanded me to lose the weight.   I still have a long way to go but I am well over the halfway point.  Had he commanded me to lose weight I am sure I would have.  I strive to be obedient in all that I do.  I just don't believe I would have done it as successfully or in such a healthy way because I would have been doing it to be obedient - not because everything deep within me was ready to do so.  He knew this and he watched me, said all of the right things, and waited until that moment when he knew I was ready and then said something so simple and so logical and yet so profound to me at that speciific moment in time.   He's a smart cookie. ;)  I'm lucky to have the place I do beneath his hand and at his feet. Well wishes, Cav's ally. P.S.  When I originally began this post, I had no intention of starting a novella.  My apologies for rambling.  ***edited for horriffic typos

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 8:15:34 PM   
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i tried and failed.... felt aweful..... even my doctor said it wasn't within my control..... i was still punished because He said it just didn't make sense to Him..... i journaled everything i ate or drank and all my activities.... i felt pretty worthless....

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 8:22:02 PM   
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quote:

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woudn't do it to obtain a wedding ring and/or collar ...wouldn't do it for Daddy even if He ordered me to. the desire to lose weight has to come from ME for ME and no one else.



Pretty much my own thoughts.  However, if my D spoke to me about it, expressed his thoughts and feelings, rather than "ordering" me to lose weight, I would *of course* be more than willing to discuss it, and go from there.  If his reasoning made me want to lose the weight, then I certianly would do so. :)
It doesn't help that I'm a little biased when it comes to this subject, though... I am chubby, and I love my chubby.  I think I am adorable and very much dislike skinny on a female. (Or male for that matter.)

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 8:32:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: haneyjane

i tried and failed.... felt aweful..... even my doctor said it wasn't within my control..... i was still punished because He said it just didn't make sense to Him..... i journaled everything i ate or drank and all my activities.... i felt pretty worthless....


Most family doctors have no clue about weight loss.  They've got a pamphlet with a useless diet they hand out.  Really, if the diets worked, would there be any fat people?

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/16/2007 11:00:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CoyoteWhipsMost family doctors have no clue about weight loss.  They've got a pamphlet with a useless diet they hand out.  Really, if the diets worked, would there be any fat people?
 I agree to some degree because I have heard others say that their physicians tried to put them on a specific diet.  What I have found in my own experiences though is that most doctors I have dealt with don't prescribe a "diet" but rather advise a change in habit, food choice, and activity.   I believe that one of the major keys to my success so far as been that I am not "required" to eat specific things or to completely rule out any one (or more) things.  Just to be sensible, to understand that in the end, calories and activity are the key.  I choose where those calories come from.  If I want chocolate, I eat chocolate.  If I want potatoes, I eat potatoes.  I just make sure that the amount and/or type of food I eat fits in to a caloric amount per day that is conducive to someone of my age, gender, weight, and metabolism to burn more than I take in. Well wishes, Cav's ally

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/17/2007 6:53:23 AM   
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If I was at a unhealthy weight and my Dom wanted me to lose it for health reasons, I would.
And if he thought I was ugly 'cause I was fat I'd probably still lose it, but I'd be depressed too.

As is, people look at me and think I'm anoxreic [which I'm not, I'm just really small with a high metabolism]. So I doubt I'll be losing weight anytime soon.


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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/20/2007 11:28:03 AM   
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haha another thread on weight.

i have already lost 12+lbs for my master and i love it.he is helping me lose my baby weight from the pregnancy, i feel healthier, i look better, and i know he appreciates my dedication to it.

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/20/2007 11:39:08 AM   
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would you agree to lose weight to please your dom ? how would this make you feel ?


Of course I would try if he asked. How would it make me feel? It would make me feel loved & cared for, the support of having him help me would be wonderful.
I'm going to bring the subject up to him when I see him tomorrow (yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy) and ask for him to help me on this. Even if he were the one to bring it up I would still feel good about it, he wouldn't want me to lose weight for fashion but for health.

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RE: how far will you go ? - 5/20/2007 11:41:14 AM   
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Sorry too late, this is another fat thread.
Now I am off to pop some popcorn.

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