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RE: Rudeness - 5/5/2005 10:18:43 AM

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Ha! This is so hilarious! i agree heartily with all happypervert has said. It's true...and how about people who then send a hostile note to the sub insulting them? i loathe that - they have nothing better to do than try to make a perfect stranger feel like crap for absolutely no reason.

If i answered every note i got i would never get off off this damn machine! It is hard enough wading through people politely as it is, without guys like this out there wasting everyone's time.

Happypervert: well said.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/5/2005 10:27:54 AM

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Wow, you sure assume a lot about the OP based on his three sentence post. Sure hope in your life that others will be kinder and more willing to give the benefit of the doubt than you appear to be.

I thought about going through the older posts and culling out some of those made by regular posters here that basically complained about the same thing...or posts where in one they will bash someone and later post the exact opposite, but then I thought, nah...why bother. I don't have *that* much time on my hands, and sometimes people just enjoy bashing people they don't know and jumping to conclusions instead of taking something in the spirit in which it was written. <shrug> Enjoy!

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RE: Rudeness - 5/5/2005 10:40:10 AM

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Yes, well, i suppose i was a bit zealous because this literally happened to me minutes ago. I was just going about my business quietly, when i recieved an extremely hostile note from someone simply because i did not answer them. That isn't right, and i certainly do not condone that, nor do i think it ought to be tolerated within our community. i realize that this isn't necessarily the case with this guy, but yes, i guess i inferred it from his comments. End of story, i'm not posting any more of these, i don't have time. Again, i do agree with most everything everyone else said.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/5/2005 11:18:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: stormsfate

I thought about going through the older posts and culling out some of those made by regular posters here that basically complained about the same thing...

Well, I guess I see making a comment complaining about something as different than starting a whole thread about it, especially when there is another thread still showing on the current messages page.

I think one of the reasons people rae being so hard on this oP is that there were at least 3 of these threads within the past couple weeks. One can only read the same things so often without getting a bit fed up and wishing they'd just look in the archives.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/5/2005 11:38:30 AM

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I *know* its annoying to read the same thing over and over...but people don't always notice the other posts when they post their own thread. How many of you roll your eyes every time someone new to the lifestyle posts the "difference between a sub and a slave" thread? I do...I've been reading that thread for the past twelve years...lol.

But rudeness begets rudeness and the OP in this case had at least a leg to stand on with his comments in that in society, a good number of us were taught to say please and thank you and to respond to correspondence in a timely fashion. Now with the advent of email, and the free for all of the internet, these things that we were taught don't always apply or by necessity have become flexible BUT he may have had a reasonable expectation that a polite hello would receive the courtesy of a polite response and for the life of me...whether you are among those who respond or among those who ignore, I can't see what he said that provoked some of the comments that were made towards him.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 5:52:35 AM

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yoursalone is one of the kindest, most amenable young slaves I have ever come accross in My 20 years as a Dom.

I find is slightly ironic and comedic that stormsfate cautions yoursalone against making negative inferrences, only to turn around and do just that to yoursalone.

sigh.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 6:06:15 AM

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sighs too

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 6:47:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stormsfate

I *know* its annoying to read the same thing over and over...but people don't always notice the other posts when they post their own thread. How many of you roll your eyes every time someone new to the lifestyle posts the "difference between a sub and a slave" thread? I do...I've been reading that thread for the past twelve years...lol.

But rudeness begets rudeness and the OP in this case had at least a leg to stand on with his comments in that in society, a good number of us were taught to say please and thank you and to respond to correspondence in a timely fashion. Now with the advent of email, and the free for all of the internet, these things that we were taught don't always apply or by necessity have become flexible BUT he may have had a reasonable expectation that a polite hello would receive the courtesy of a polite response and for the life of me...whether you are among those who respond or among those who ignore, I can't see what he said that provoked some of the comments that were made towards him.

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You are correct that rudeness begets rudeness, and in my opinion (and apparently others also) we read rudeness into his post. Stormsfate, I don't know about the amount of emails you receive, I imagine it is as many as mine. I recieve a lot of courteous one liners, ie: How are you today, Mistress? or You have a beautiful picture Ma'am, I hope you have a wonderful day. Even though they are courteous, they are form letter one liners in my opinion, and I do not respond. Does that make me rude? I save my responses for the ones that have well thought letters. They do not have to be pages long, but they do have to be original and in my opinion meant for me. I have not sent out any emails as of yet ( I receive enough, and frankly have not had time to search), but if I did, and did not get a reply(such as ones I answer and do not get a followup from the original sender), I have better things to concern myself about. It's almost like a cold call in marketing, and while you hope for a reply, I see no reason why you should EXPECT one. After all, this person did not initiate contact with you, so why should they be obligated to respond? Yes, in a perfect world, everyone would wrote tomes back why they were not a fit, or not interested, but this is real life. I don't think it's being necessarily rude not to reply, especially if written in the manner that I'm guessing his are, in that he EXPECTS a reply, in Domly manner. Also, if his letter contained as many typograghical errors as his post did, I can understand even more. If someone can't take the time to run spell check on their email, or at least proofread (that is what I do instead of spellcheck), I delete and do not reply. Again, I notice a conspicuous absence of comment from the OP. Maybe if he would like to share a sample of his introductory letter some of us would change our minds, whichever opinion we happen to hold at the moment. I'm always willing to reconsider any opinion I have, if someone shows me something to reconsider with.

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 7:29:42 AM

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kc692, its true no good deed goes unpunished, so while the OP took a hike apparently, here I am still trying to defend a person I've never met, don't know and don't particularly care to know.

Its one thing to disagree with someone..I do it all the time... but I just don't get the hostility that some people have directed towards this guy (apparently some of them also felt their words were maybe a tad bit strong, as they have been since been edited).

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 7:35:05 AM

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<---- agrees, but pokes it one more time just to be sure

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RE: Rudeness - 5/6/2005 11:58:04 AM

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I dind it extreamly rude from these so called slaves when you take the time to read their profiles and write a kind introdructry letter and they choose to read it and then ignor it. They should at least have the common courtasy to say thank you but no thank you.

I'll admit when I first came here I felt similarly. I was raised that if someone takes the time to write you a letter, you should have the courtesy to respond. Then I got a good long look at the reality of what most submissive women on this site have to cope with and I modified my attitude considerably. I had two submissive female friends sign up here because I had spoken highly of the site. Both, within the first 24 hrs of creating an account received around 200 emails each in that short span of time. Neither had a pic on their profile and neither listed any interests, and of course their profiles had not been approved yet. Despite this, 200 desperate souls chose to write each of them with no information about who they were, what they were looking for, or even if they were looking (they weren't). They both identified themselves as submissives, that was all. Despite that, dozens of those emails were from submissive males hoping these women would dom them!!! Since then I've spoken with a third woman, who I've become friends with who has faced a similiar overwhelming response. And since then, all three women have left the site. Two of them removed their profiles entirely.

Before you go criticizing these women for not responding, consider the above information. There is a larger problem here that needs to be addressed. In a deluge of emails from desperate submissive males, submissive females looking for additional slaves for their masters, and dominants ordering them to "get on your knees bitch"... did it occur to you that those few polite emails they get got lost in all that?

On the whole I haven't had much trouble with my emails not being replied to. In fact there have been only three who did not reply to me. One left the site, apparently before she got my email. One was a simple letter of encouragement to someone who seemed to bo having a rough time, she never replied. One was a compliment on a very nice and classy profile, who also never responded (perhaps not as classy as I thought). My attitude about it all... its their loss, next.

On the other hand I've had quite a few emails from a lot of nice people, several of whom I've taken up corresponding with. One person who I met here and has since left the site has stayed in touch with me. Having seen what so many women here have to deal with however, I've learned to be a good deal more sympathetic and understanding if they don't reply. Its still their loss if they don't, I consider myself a good person to have as a friend at the very least. But it is their choice and under the circumstances I don't blame some of them for not responding. After wading through 30 or 40 one line emails, which are often rude, can you really blame them for giving up?

One final note, the site mail system is not always reliable. I had one email mangled (two thirds of the email was either deleted or corrupted into unreadable gibberish) and another apparently never arrived. So keep in mind that some of those site mails you send may never have reached their intended.

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