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deadbluebird -> Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/1/2007 10:07:08 PM)

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070501-arctic-ice.html




Vendaval -> RE: Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/2/2007 2:04:05 AM)

[&:]     This part is especially troubling -

" The finding is simply another indicator that earlier predictions about the impact of global warming weren't overly alarmist, Oechel added.

"What we're finding is that most of the estimates are holding up or occurring at an accelerated rate," he said.

"If any mistakes were made, it's that the estimates were overly conservative." "




meatcleaver -> RE: Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/2/2007 2:35:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

[&:]     This part is especially troubling -

" The finding is simply another indicator that earlier predictions about the impact of global warming weren't overly alarmist, Oechel added.

"What we're finding is that most of the estimates are holding up or occurring at an accelerated rate," he said.

"If any mistakes were made, it's that the estimates were overly conservative." "


Some people still won't believe the climate is changing due to human activity, even when they are waist deep in water they will still be saying what is happening is a natural accurrence. They won't even agree to modify their behaviour slightly and not be so wasteful just to be on the safe side. Many people in poor countries that rely directly on nature for their survival are seeing changes that are making their survival increasingly precarious. Selfishness holds no bounds in the west, we are the biggest culprits and have been for 150 years. It is not about people making huge sacrifices, it is about not taking the frivolous, the trivial and excessive luxury for granted. A little thoughtfulness for succeeding generations seems to be a big ask for many.




Alumbrado -> RE: Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/2/2007 6:01:10 AM)

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In fact, the report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change meeting this week in Bangkok concludes that rice production was a main cause of rising methane emissions in the 20th century. It calls for better controls.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070501/ap_on_re_as/climate_change_rice;_ylt=




Sinergy -> RE: Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/2/2007 8:15:54 AM)

What I find the most amusing is when these people who dont believe it is happening provide a vast amount of non sequiter information about a marginally related subject, e.g. computer modelling, as proof that global warming is all a vast load of hooey.

Did you check out that link about the GRACE satellites determining that the antarctic ice sheet is losing 36 cubic miles of ice mass a year for the past 11 years?

Sinergy




Vendaval -> RE: Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted (5/2/2007 3:37:48 PM)

Alumbrado, that link is no longer active.
 
Yes, I remember reading that, Sinergy.
 
 




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