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Arastella -> Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 9:45:08 AM)

In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?




Arastella -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 9:59:39 AM)

Anyone?  ANYONE?




MstrssPassion -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:01:11 AM)

most don't believe in rewarding bad behavior




MercTech -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:01:31 AM)

A question unasked is never answered. 
Just be sure of what you ask for.

Stefan




Action -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:02:19 AM)

I personaly have varying styles from me to my husband. When one of his girls acts up and he's just in no mood for it, he ignores it until he isn't. I on the other hand grab at the chance to punish one and if I even see the slighest thing that bothers me or a defiance I do something about it on the spot, thus why the girls stand a bit stiffer when I pass them.

But on personal feelings of if one of the girl's asked me to punish them, I'd relish it, one of my girls has done so in the past and it was quiet fun to humiliate her and call her slut for asking for it, all the while degrading her as I punished her like she wanted. I love it, but I can see at the same time when an owner is in no mood for it how it can turn into an unenjoyable moment.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:03:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella
In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment? 

Depends on the relationship.  For me, it's ok for them to ask, but they need to be able to explain the reasoning and feelings behind it for me to even consider it.
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Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment? 

No, I know too many martyr slaves or slaves who punish themselves too much to think that's what it always it.

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 I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?

In THIS case, you shouldn't ask to be punished, you should ask "What's going wrong here with us?  I feel disconnected and unmotivated and am not sure how to regain security and commitment.  Can you help?"

Punishment in this case won't really solve anything, certainly not the underlying issue.

If I had told my partner to make the bed, and he got distracted by stuff and didn't make it, and later that night specifically came to me and said "I feel bad about not remembering to make the bed, would you please punish me as a way to help me move beyond this guilt and shame I feel and look more positively to the future" then I'd very likely consider it.  The main problem I tend to find in asking for punishment is that it means the slave is stuck in their own issues in the moment, rather than looking to the overall goal and who they are serving.

In most cases however, disobeying and misbehaving is a sign of a deeper issue in the relationshp itself- and just punishing the behavior won't get to that deeper issue.




WilliamWizer -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:06:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella

In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?


Yes. or at least be sincere and tell her that you were defiant and let her decide if you need to be disciplined or not. a slave should never hide anything from his/her master/mistress so tell her.
and tell her that you feel you should be punished if that's how you feel.




RavenMuse -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:08:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella
In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?


Depends on the real motives behind it.... is it just a simple need for painplay? Or a genuine need for something, normaly a cathartic event, you would psychologicaly key into as attonement (Some girls DO have a need for such when they percieve themselves to have disapointed their Master)

In the first place it isn't punishment, but play you are requesting, in the second you are identifying a need AND raising the issue of your behaviour (Hopefully that will also be addressed and rectified)

In either case the issue IMO does need to be discussed, appropriatly with your Mistress.




mistoferin -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:09:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella

In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?


Didn't you just answer basically this same question for someone else on another thread?




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:13:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella

In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?



I ignore a submissive who acts out on purpose.
It will seem like I dont notice,but believe Me I notice.
Its not a good way to get noticed.

There is a saying about the squeaky wheel getting the grease...In My eyes the squeaky wheel gets replaced.




moose -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:17:18 AM)

Is it possible that you are considering asking for punishment not because you've been defiant, but because you are concerned that your Mistress has not noticed? Are you seeking for a way to bring to her attention that you need something more from her in terms of guidance? If so, then this is the message you should convey to her.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Should I ask or not? (5/2/2007 10:17:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arastella

In your opinion, is it okay to ask your Mistress or Master for punishment?  Or does it make it seem like you enjoy the punishment?  Do you therefore get looked at as enjoying it or knowing you've misbehaved and respectfully asking to be disciplined for it?  I have been misbehaving recently, being defiant without really thinking about it and I know I deserve to be punished for it but Mistress has yet to really notice.  Should I ask for it?


Passive-aggressive behavior is usually not the best way to behave, as you probably know. If you feel that you have behaved inappropriately, perhaps asking for "confession time" might work. It would then be up to your Mistress to offer a way to be absolved.

However, if what you're wanting is an SM scene, simply ask for it. Being bad in order to get what you want isn't positive behavior. Rewarding you for bad behavior isn't positive reinforcement.

Master Fire




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