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bengay anyone? - 5/2/2007 8:24:42 PM   
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who all loves to play with bengay for torture on their subs and how?

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/2/2007 8:28:20 PM   
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On the shoulder blades????

Lower lumbar???

I give up.



Doh!  

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/2/2007 8:36:45 PM   
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Shoulder blades & lower lumbar??  Nah, that's what Tiger Balm is for!  Ben Gay is for the wankers that don't need any real relief!
 
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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/2/2007 8:39:38 PM   
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Shoulder blades & lower lumbar??  Nah, that's what Tiger Balm is for!  Ben Gay is for the wankers that don't need any real relief!
 
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Make sure and tell Her that.

(Then again, I guess you already have.) 

Have fun.

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 3:47:54 AM   
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I haven't manged to get myself into the ben gay/mineral ice play yet...and I always have the stuff on hand....

*Playing tomorrow night....ideas are jumping*

D~

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:00:14 AM   
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I will never forget the time that my Chinese girlfriend brushed her teeth with the BenGay in my bathroom cabinet. She was so funny afterwards. She kept smiling, but obtrusively and it became very noticeable. I asked her what was wrong. She smiled and said i had "very strong tooth pastes."

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:18:48 AM   
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tried it a couple times

on both occasions the stuff ended up getting everywhere
(still wondering how such a small amount of goop could spread so far)

it burned our eyes & you wanna talk about "fire in the hole".... by that time the mood was busted & we both ended up in the shower



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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:25:42 AM   
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A little goes a very long way...though if you add a little vaseline to it, it doesn't burn as badly and can be a great little torture device while you go out to dinner and movie or something just as fun.

Honestly, I prefer a little ginger root myself.

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:26:56 AM   
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i agree that tiger balm is good for aches and pains, for play, essential oils of peppermint, maybe cinnomin. the true extracts, not scented oils. but some people's skin won't hold up to this, i'm glad i'm not one of them : )  Phoenix

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:31:01 AM   
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Morning
  My Mistress would securely bind me up, then just use a little on the end of a q-tip to lightly apply it to my cock and balls, while having me blindfolded. After a bit of this torture she would then don latex gloves on smear it on my entire private area, and leave me to squirm while the ben gay goes to work!

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:54:33 AM   
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I have no idea what ben gay is lol I thought he was a porn star !!!

Im going to google it now


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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 5:32:19 AM   
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I love Ben Gay gel, as it evaporates enough so it doesn't last beyond the time I want it to (unless, of course, I reapply it.) It's also fun to use with mummification scenes - insert a bit through a hole, and once the plastic comes off and air hits it? Yeah, baby! I also like using a paper or silk fan to wave over it during cbt scenes; more air circulation = more fun.

They should hire me as a spokesmodel.

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 5:47:00 AM   
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Do be careful with people with sensitive skin - it can give them chemical burns.

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 3:41:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

Shoulder blades & lower lumbar??  Nah, that's what Tiger Balm is for!  Ben Gay is for the wankers that don't need any real relief!
 
 - pixel





Make sure and tell Her that.

(Then again, I guess you already have.) 

Have fun.


LOL!  Yes, come to think of it, she does read this forum!
 
Actually, my experience with having Tiger Balm applied to my balls goes back to the days when I raced bicycles.  After a hard day of racing in the rain, my legs were aching very badly and starting to cramp.  Drinking water & doing lots of self-massage was just not helping enough, so I applied Tiger Balm to my quads and hamstrings.  Without thinking about anything other than relief from the pain in my legs (not in-between), I went all the way up on the inside of my legs to near my scrotum and didn't put anything on for support afterward.  It wasn't long before the Tiger Balm on the inside of my thighs transfered to my scrotum and believe me when I say it was intense
 
LOL!  Part of what made things so intense is that I don't use the regular strength Tiger Balm, I use the extra strength!  Once you get the stuff on your skin, there just doesn't seem to be any way of getting it off that I know of other than simply allowing time for it to dissipate.  In my experience, it seems the worst thing one can do is take a shower (especially a hot one) to try and wash it off as that just spreads it and makes it worse.
 
 - pixel

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 4:01:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: canupleaseme

I have no idea what ben gay is lol I thought he was a porn star !!!

Im going to google it now



You've led a very sheltered life for a Domme!   
 
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Rock Hudson who also happened to be gay?
 
Think in terms of mentholated cream for pain relief of sore muscles.  It has a different effect on the sexual organs, stimulating blood flow to the area in a decidedly "unique and interesting" way that varies somewhat from person to person.
 
Note: Not recommended for internal insertion play!  External use only!  The mucous membranes can be highly sensitive to the ingredients in these types of OTC medicinal products, leading to internal burns from chemical exposure, possibly requiring medical treament.  I hope you wouldn't want to risk injuring your sub or have to visit the ER as a result of your play.
 
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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 7:16:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave

Shoulder blades & lower lumbar??  Nah, that's what Tiger Balm is for!  Ben Gay is for the wankers that don't need any real relief!
 
 - pixel





Make sure and tell Her that.

(Then again, I guess you already have.) 

Have fun.


LOL!  Yes, come to think of it, she does read this forum!
 
Actually, my experience with having Tiger Balm applied to my balls goes back to the days when I raced bicycles.  After a hard day of racing in the rain, my legs were aching very badly and starting to cramp.  Drinking water & doing lots of self-massage was just not helping enough, so I applied Tiger Balm to my quads and hamstrings.  Without thinking about anything other than relief from the pain in my legs (not in-between), I went all the way up on the inside of my legs to near my scrotum and didn't put anything on for support afterward.  It wasn't long before the Tiger Balm on the inside of my thighs transfered to my scrotum and believe me when I say it was intense
 
LOL!  Part of what made things so intense is that I don't use the regular strength Tiger Balm, I use the extra strength!  Once you get the stuff on your skin, there just doesn't seem to be any way of getting it off that I know of other than simply allowing time for it to dissipate.  In my experience, it seems the worst thing one can do is take a shower (especially a hot one) to try and wash it off as that just spreads it and makes it worse.
 
 - pixel


Hrm...thanks for the info Pixal, I'm sure GNC carries tiger balm. I will have to get some next time I am in there. I'm sure my sub will thank you as well next time we engage in CBT.;)

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 7:30:21 PM   
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I really need to stop reading threads like this, it gives my already over active imagination more fuel.....now where did I put the tiger balm and clothespins....hrm

~wonders off to gather equipment.....

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 10:39:00 PM   
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While I've no objection to others using these sort of preparations, Master and I have decided to give them a miss. He experimented once with a mentholated cream ... and it got rather intense in its effect, but ... there's no antidote! Nothing can be done to ameliorate it other than wait for it to subside. His conclusion? He doesn't want to play with anything where IT is in control, not Him. Thoughts anyone?

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 10:45:29 PM   
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Note: Not recommended for internal insertion play!  External use only!  The mucous membranes can be highly sensitive to the ingredients in these types of OTC medicinal products, leading to internal burns from chemical exposure, possibly requiring medical treament.  I hope you wouldn't want to risk injuring your sub or have to visit the ER as a result of your play.

 
I've actually had this happen accidentally. Used Mentholated rub in some NT and CBT (a small amount mixed with vaseline) and it got transferred onto the lube for the strap on or somehow must have been on my hand still while lubing the strap on. I still remember his voice saying " Ummmm Ma'am, it's getting rather warm" then " Oooh Ma'am, uhhh it's really warm" then  "OMG that's intense" Of course, more friction meant more heat. At the time neither of us could figure out what in the world was causing the warmth. Then it dawned on us when he mentioned it was very similar to the NT/CBT sensation previously that evening. No damage was done and from then on he would beg for this same mixture to be used in increasing strength occasionally.
 
Whoever mentioned that showering made it worse was completely right. It does. Regardless of whether it's a cool shower or a warm one. We found that out as well that night.

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RE: bengay anyone? - 5/3/2007 11:38:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MaamJay

While I've no objection to others using these sort of preparations, Master and I have decided to give them a miss. He experimented once with a mentholated cream ... and it got rather intense in its effect, but ... there's no antidote! Nothing can be done to ameliorate it other than wait for it to subside. His conclusion? He doesn't want to play with anything where IT is in control, not Him. Thoughts anyone?


MaamJay
You are, actually, incorrect. There are things that you can do to neutralize most, if not all, chemicals that are used in BDSM play.

I personally have a very sensitive reaction to BenGay, and as many here, discovered that water does NOT help - it makes it worse. However, things that CAN help include:
  add vaseline or another carrier oil like almond oil to cut the strength and draw it out. apply the vaseline, rub around, then wipe clean, then repeat
  some chemicals are neutralized by sugar. think capcaizin creme. when you eat something spicy, pour a packet of sugar in your mouth. In the same way, it can neutralize chemicals on the body
  plain yogurt, or milk, can also neutralize the chemicals. think basic chemistry - acid, base.
  sometimes baking soda works to neutralize the chemicals
  sometimes using oatmeal bath powder and making a paste and lathering it on will neutralize the items.

The key is to find out what DOES neutralize what you are playing with BEFORE you play - and then have it on hand.

Deborah Addington mentions a number of these things in her class Cunning Torments (it's about female genitorture). She has published a book by the same name but I believe it is out of print. I've e-mailed her to see if I can get a list and haven't had any luck.

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