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Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 8:30:55 AM

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                                                Pride and Predudice
                                                       By: Phoenix

                   He did it again, He called me His slave. i'd thought W/we'd already discussed the matter, i
was His submissive. yet all week, He has called me that.
            could i be a slave? no, not me. i'm proud and haven't lost myself in the name of the relationship.
but wait, would not a slave give all apon request? for Him i would. He never asked me to lose myself,
no He's always encouraged my personal growth.
          have i been guilty of letting my preconcieved notions tainting my views on life? society before
this modern incarnation, was composed of various tribes, and a step of evolution ago, packs. i believe
"pack mentality" still lingers within humans. applied to BDSM it all fell into place;
                                          Alpha; Dom/mes
                                          Betas; SwItChEs
                                          Peasants; submissives
                                          Omegas; slaves
          i rated everyone by force of will, Dom/mes having the strongest and slaves the least forceful
of A/all. though i might not impose my will unto O/others, or challenge A/another, my will is no fading
force. my Mate knows that once my will is set upon something, there is nothing i will not overcome.
lol, He'll tie me in knots and command me to escape them.
            it is "pack mentality" that defers all negitive traits to the omega. i didn't think too long on it,
a submissive owned their life and slaves didn't.
          perhaps i should have seen other angles. is my submission a fleeting thing? no, i have comitted
all of myself to my Mate. it is more than kink or where or what W/we'll eat for dinner. does this mean
forsaking my own life? no. it means i have devoted my life to a cause, maybe to the point that the cause
and my life are the same thing. the cause is to use all that makes "me" into a force that will give a
better life unto my Mate.
            this was my choise. i made this oath from the depths of my soul, and it was my will to do so. i forgot that
before any slave became a slave, they too had this choise to make.
            yes, i'm submissive by nature, and a slave unto my Mate. i think i've conquered this predudice,
though i am still becoming accustomed to hearing the word and knowing that it refers to me. but, it
has made me all the prouder.

can anyone else relate?

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 8:36:09 AM

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Anytime you try and equate personality traits with relationship orientations you'll run into trouble.

A lot of people have trouble going from one identification to another- a lot of subs fight being a submissive until they become comfortable with it. It took me a long time to be comfortable identifying with a switch.

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 9:08:49 AM

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well, the aspect of over-analizing everything is still a hard habit to break. i want to know why everything works the way it does... maybe that's why He's been looking so hard for a good gagging device : ) oh well. i was just wondering if anyones else identifies proudly as a slave? when the power given goes so much deeper than , well, i'm at a loss for words on it,,, used all my good words up there : ) i used to think that to be a slave meant your spirit was broken, now i've learn different, still learning... phoenix

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 9:10:58 AM

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quote:

i used to think that to be a slave meant your spirit was broken, now i've learn different,

its a wonderfully liberating feeling to reach that plateau, don't you think?
( not saying that only slaves can do so though )

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 9:28:55 AM

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I can relate abit i am a sub. i fought againest it for about 28 years (until i was 29) and finally realized that i was submissive and embraced it with the help of a wonderful mentor. So i can relate to the internal struggle.

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 11:43:22 AM

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It is funny how we all view different things. I have a friend that is a very dynamic switch. I know she will always have that strong edge in her that needs to dominate. Yet I also see in her the strength and desire to be a slave. She will deny that second part until she is blue in the face, yet I see it there. It's afraid, terrified, she hides behind the bravado. Yet I know that when a dominant woman comes along that earns her complete trust and respect she will give that woman everything, every fibre of herself will belong to that luck woman.

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 12:10:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: phoenixinchains
i was just wondering if anyones else identifies proudly as a slave?

I do, without hesitation, proudly identify as being my Master's slave.

I don't feel that puts me at the bottom of a pack- that means that I have given all of myself to him because it's what I wanted, and he accepted me and cherishes me for it. It was he who first called me his slave- and it is only between us that I am a slave, I do not serve any other as I serve him, and I do it because it benefits me. I am not a slave in that I have no right to my life, or no will - I have both of those things in abundance, and he guides me to nurture both of those things to their fullest potential.

Hope this helps-
behindmirrors.

Edited to add: My spirit is not broken, it's more complete and at peace than ever before.

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/4/2007 10:42:44 PM

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thanks to A/all for responding, it was interesting on how different P/people related. i wondered if the qualities of submission were ever seen in Dom/mes but un-nurtured due to self-denile. i'm glad to knows others have found peace in their lives on this matter. as for the bottom of the pack notion, it's gone the way of the dinosours for me. i know that in a night club i will walk with a straight back, head held high, and won't take crap from anyone,,, and when i sit beside my Mate, well His wish is my desire and command : )

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/5/2007 6:32:00 AM

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Nobody but a slave can understand how it feels. People that have never experienced or don't want to always say the same things. Like "I am too strong willed, or "I am too proud". It is all crap . You can be strong willed and be a slave. I am a slave and proud to admit it. I haven't lost my identity, I am still me. I am fiesty, strong and proud. Good luck in your journey.

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/5/2007 9:32:59 PM

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i understand the need to label ones' self. i need that, i need to be able to list in my mind who i am in relation to others, my rationale is that if i know "i'm this in relation to that person" then i understand better who i am and where my feet stand as the world keeps turning.

i say "submissive". Sir insists "slave". i respond "as you wish" and its all the same to me. i know what i am to him, i know what he expects of me, and i try my damnedest to please him. so the exact title (to me) is immaterial, i know who i am to him.

i know, clear as mud

kitten, whose mind escapes at times

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RE: Pride and Predudice - 5/5/2007 10:20:34 PM

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Identity...what you identify with is just...something. Adora has it perfect. The title you give yourself must be as you define it. i identify myself as "Sub" though most people would identify me as "Switch". All the labels that go along with it, bring em on. Maybe someone will get taught a lesson.

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