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BobcatsLilMinx -> Question about back pain (5/6/2005 3:49:04 AM)

I know a lot of people have back problems - until recently I wasn't one of them, but for whatever reasons, I've been feeling pretty acute pain at the small of my back for the last 2 weeks. It's really beginning to be a problem; I can't bend over at all, not even over a kitchen unit surface to prepare food, unless I support my weight on both hands, and it's still uncomfortable then. The pain is pretty much constant, a dull ache and the occasional twinge when I'm sitting/standing still, but any movement at all sends jolts of pain right through me. I'm also having problems now with bowel movements, I'm finding it near impossible to pass anything solid. As well as this, I'm finding that throughout the day I get a pain in my right thigh that eventually travels down the whole leg.

I have called a doctor, and I have an appointment on Thursday. But I'm really, really scared. Am i worrying too much about this, is this a common problem? I've looked it up on the internet, but I'm aware that back pain can be caused by so many things... And really, reading about all the things it COULD be has scared me even more!! Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing??

Any answers gratefully appreciated, and thanking you in advance
Minx



GreyStorm -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 4:18:28 AM)

I too suffer from back pain. For me it is a simple fact of life that I accept and move on. For you it sounds like there might be something more. However don't get scared. My sister is a doctor and she has told me time and again, don't go searching the internet for your own diagnosis. You will find symptoms that will fit the most exotic diseases when in reality you have something simple. Go see the doctor and find out what is wrong but don't sweat it until they figure it out. Good luck.



SweetDommes -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 4:45:07 AM)

*nods* yeah, what GreyStorm said (but don't tell him I agreed with him).

Try to relax, the worst thing you can do to yourself when you are already hurting is to get yourself worked up over it. If you have a good doctor, you'll be feeling better before too long - if you don't, you can go to a different one until they get it right.



siamsa24 -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 5:32:59 AM)

I had this same thing for a while. I went around to all kinds of doctors and specialists, had tons of x-rays and tests and they couldn't find anything wrong (yet another reason I avoid the doctor, in my experience they don't fix anything).
And then a few months ago I gave my friend a ride to the chiropracter and he asked me why I looked like I was in so much pain. At this point I was having shooting pains down my arms and legs and it was very difficult for me to do anything.
They took x-rays and found that my back has a slight curve in it, as does my neck (my back is basically shaped like a slight "S") and because my back wasn't where it was supposed to be it was pinching nerves and causing serious pain.
I started going in for regular appointments and they were wonderful. I also got new pillows, one to support my neck and one to put between my knees when I sleep (if you sleep on your side it does damage to your lower back because of the position of your legs).

So, in short, if you go to the doctor and they don't know what's wrong, or if they just recommend pain killers or something then try a chiropracter. Regular doctors frown on it, but I don't understand why, the chiropracter helped me when the regular doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. Many insurence plans cover chiropractic visits if they are needed, in other words the chiropracter just has to say "yup, your pain can be fixed through these treatments"

This may or may not help, but I thought I would let you know that there are other options out there in case you aren't happy with the treatment plan offered by the doctor.

And don't be nervous, you'll be fine I'm sure. I will light a candle for you that day and include you in my prayers.



BobcatsLilMinx -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 8:42:58 AM)

Yes, I know I need to relax, the tenser I get the more it hurts, isn't life wonderful? *grins* need to record myself onto tape reminding myself to breathe.. and in.. and out... and in...

Thanks to you all for the replies, I wonder if I get a chiropracter on the NHS? And I'll remember that thing about sleeping on your side...

GreyStorm, if you deal with this on a day to day basis, then ye gods, do you have my awe!! Of course when things are unavoidable and regular occurences in your life, you do learn to deal...nothing like this ever happened to me before though, it scared me senseless.

Wow, you guys are so great, I feel much happier now. [:)]



siamsa24 -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 8:48:59 AM)

If you sleep on your side then a knee pillow is a great investment. I have this set: Contour Leg and Head Pillow Combo


It's a little more costly then most regular pillows, but the pain relief is so worth it



darkinshadows -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 11:44:46 AM)

The back pain sounds similar to something Demon had. It turned out that the muscles were going into spasm, and this effected His neck, side, 'spine area', and legs. If you can take them, try ibruprofen or co-codamol(sp?) until you see the doctor to help lessen the inflamation and as a pain killer - you can take paracetamol also with the Ibruprofen as it doesn't cause any problems, but careful not to overdose on the paracetamol.

Stress maybe causing the bowel problems - I know its easier said than done, but try not to worry until you have seen the doctor. Cold compress works better than hot.

Thinking of you

Peace and Love



sub4hire -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 12:09:11 PM)

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They took x-rays and found that my back has a slight curve in it, as does my neck (my back is basically shaped like a slight "S") and because my back wasn't where it was supposed to be it was pinching nerves and causing serious pain.


I was going to say the same thing she said. Don't overlook the doctor though. I've had the same pain. My doctor has told me time and time again it is because of a pinched nerve. Essentially if I crack my back...the pain subsides sometimes. Others it doesn't but most of the time it does.
However, as other's have stated and so have I. Don't neglect the doctor. My dom will have back surgery someday over this. They want him to have it now. Same thing with his but his bones are degenerating so it is exposing his nerve.
Never know until you are diagnosed.



proudsub -> RE: Question about back pain (5/6/2005 12:27:39 PM)

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I also got new pillows, one to support my neck and one to put between my knees when I sleep (if you sleep on your side it does damage to your lower back because of the position of your legs).


I've always been amazed how much damage sleeping in the wrong position can do. There was a time when i slept with my arms over my head and that caused bursitis in my shoulders. I know my back gets sore if i sleep on my stomach. Now i usually sleep on my side but i have to put a pillow between my thighs to avoid hip pain.



MsMacComb -> RE: Question about back pain (5/7/2005 12:41:25 AM)

Pilates, Pilates, Pilates. No matter what (minus a broken spine) building up core strength will improve your overall health and minimize pain, if not get rid of it all together.



BobcatsLilMinx -> RE: Question about back pain (5/7/2005 4:55:10 AM)

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Pilates, Pilates, Pilates


You mean I have to get out of bed???

Joking. Although seriously, at the moment I can't even stand up from a sitting position without howling in pain... I'll bear the pilates in mind for after I have some basic movement skills back [:)]

Thanks again,
Minx



MzRoze -> RE: Question about back pain (5/7/2005 6:24:53 AM)

Have you thought about massage therapy?

I had years of chronic back pain, the pain radiating down one leg as you described (doc told me it was called pseudo-sciatica). I was on pain-killers, muscle relaxants, all kinds of things. I'd tried a chiropractor, physiotherapy, everything I could think of.

Then I met the sweet boy who is now my sub, he's a massage therapist. With weekly treatments, the pain receded and I have periods of no pain at all. I've been able to work at a job where I'm on my feet all day, for the past two years. That's something I never would have been able to do without his help!

I never believed that I would be this well again! I strongly recommend it.

take care
MzRoze








EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Question about back pain (5/7/2005 7:38:42 AM)

I'll bring it up here- weight is a big factor too, overall body and breast size. Regular exercise can help build abdominal and back muscles. Try swimming which is low impact and builds all the muscles together.



sissymaidlola -> RE: Question about back pain (5/7/2005 1:44:16 PM)

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Yes, I know I need to relax, the tenser I get the more it hurts, isn't life wonderful? *grins* need to record myself onto tape reminding myself to breathe.. and in.. and out... and in... <snip> I wonder if I get a chiropracter on the NHS?

Sheesh, well now you have TWO reasons to relax and reduce your tension, BobcatsLilMinx, the other being so that you can tranquilize more sheep! <giggles> Believe it or not, sissy had not read this thread when he posted his advice to you to relax a little over on that other one.

WRT whether you can get a chiropractor on the NHS sissy has no idea, but you can use this BCA web site to locate a chiropractor near you. Sounds to sissy like you have pinched one or more of the nerves in your lower back region. You are correct that lots of folk are plagued with lower back pain, but normally much later in life! Some may start to experience it in their late twenties and early thirties, but for most people things only first come to a head in life somewhat later than that. So sissy is sorry to hear that you've hit this problem so early in your life span.

IsHO, when it comes to lower back problems chiropractors are usually much better at effecting a cure through adjustments and related physiotherapy than medical doctors are through prescribing stuff (which is all they can really do unless the problem is so bad that it requires surgery!). They tend to treat the pain rather than the root cause of the pain. Even acupuncturists tend to have as good a track record, if not better, of resolving lower back pain as medical doctors. As someone else suggested, massage therapists can work wonders for someone with lower back problems, particularly if they are tense.

In the mean time, when you take a shower you might want to try directing the hot water stream onto the small of your back, and doing stretching exercises to work your lower back muscles at the same time. Also, when lying in bed, try alternating between a heating pad and an ice pack on the small of your back. And stop sleeping on your side ... force yourself to sleep flat on your back. That can make a big difference, as can reducing the number of pillows you use to just one. If you have a really soft or old mattress that might also be the source of your problem. Additionally, reduce the amount of time you sit, particularly in soft chairs. Try kneeling in front of your PC if you find sitting in front of it painful after a while. And if you use your PC for any length of time, take frequent breaks from sitting at it ... at least every hour, but preferably every 30 minutes.

sissy Also sees from your profile that you are into corset training. If you own a corset, have your Master lace you into one ASAP for the duration until your doctor's appointment next week. If no corset, use a girdle or cincher. Also try wearing high heels (4"+) ... the redistribution of your weight throwing your shoulders back and your chest out should feel really good down in the small of your back. OTOH, either of those things - cinching and the change of stance due to heels - may exacerbate your problem, but sissy very strongly doubts that. Usually, one of the first things that doctors make someone with lower back pain do is wear a girdle (yes, men included!). Normally, what causes the sharp twinges of back pain are the transitions ... sitting down, getting up, bending over, etc. As you presumably already know, a corset (and to a lesser extent, a girdle or cincher) will prevent you from doing those kind of movements easily (if at all) thus significantly reducing your incidence of pain.

Finally, your BDSM interests also include being "kept in cage at all times." Crouching in a cage for any length of time longer than a few minutes could be the source of all your current lower back problems ... cease and desist from this "pleasure" immediately! As much as the thought of being caged might be a big mental turn-on and fantasy for you, be prepared to accept the reality of the fact that if you are prone to having lower back problems you may have to forego pursuing this particular kink for the rest of your life (like a diabetic has to forego sugar). Hope any or all of this was useful. Good luck with your doctor's visit on Thursday.

sissy maid lola

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sissymaidlola -> RE: weight is a big factor (5/7/2005 8:29:19 PM)

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I'll bring it up here- weight is a big factor too, overall body and breast size.

Weighing in at 112 lbs that is hardly BobcatsLilMinx's problem ... she is one of the most buoyant members on this site! <giggles>

sissy maid lola

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SweetDommes -> RE: weight is a big factor (5/7/2005 8:44:47 PM)

It's not about just weight - as Emerald pointed out, it's about proportions - "overall body and breast size" ... if she's shaped like a Barbie doll, it would be no wonder that she has back trouble (as I don't know her proportions, I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least part of the problem). Holly has back trouble because she's cup size F - yeah, she's overweight, too, but being overweight causes lower back pain a lot more often than upper back pain - breast size tends to cause upper back pain, which is what she has. Someone who weighs 112# (or less) but has size D or larger breasts is going to have back pain, it's pretty much a given, and even C cups can cause back problems.



BlkTallFullfig -> Not in LilMinx' case (5/7/2005 9:01:47 PM)

Yes excercising, staying flexible but stronger may help, but don't even think about getting paranoid that at 112# your weight is a factor, unless you have ultra small bones and you have ultra huge boobs.
Go see the doctors and get tested for physical problems in that area of your back is what I think you should go do. M



sub4hire -> RE: weight is a big factor (5/7/2005 9:50:01 PM)

quote:

but has size D or larger breasts is going to have back pain, it's pretty much a given, and even C cups can cause back problems.


Actually that is not the case. My breasts are larger than D cups. The only time I have back pain is if I've lifted too much in the gym which is rare to ever.
Or I've slept in the wrong position. I like sleeping on my side. My back likes sleeping on itself. So, most of the time my back pain has come from sleeping in the wrong position.

I know I've heard breasts cause back pain as well as long as I've been living. I just haven't found it to be the case with the larger breasted women I've known.

The doctor's first response is usually a pinched nerve. Guess it is the easy response..I dunno.
Chiropractor, well I know a very good dom who happens to be one. He seems to cause me more harm than he has ever given me relief.
I know that should'nt be the norm either..but just telling you of my experiences.



sissymaidlola -> RE: weight is a big factor (5/7/2005 10:02:59 PM)

quote:

... if she's shaped like a Barbie doll, it would be no wonder that she has back trouble (as I don't know her proportions, I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least part of the problem). <snip> Someone who weighs 112# (or less) but has size D or larger breasts is going to have back pain, it's pretty much a given, and even C cups can cause back problems.

Thank you for taking the time for sharing those pearls of wisdom with us all, Karen. Everyone else at CollarMe was probably as equally fascinated as sissy was to learn of your somewhat bizarre belief that the cause of BobcatsLilMinx's lower back pain is her hypothetically oversized boobs! [;)]

sissy maid lola

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SweetDommes -> RE: weight is a big factor (5/7/2005 10:26:23 PM)

sissy - I specifically said "if" and that I didn't know what her shape was - I was really only referring to Emerald's comment and your followup about weight, not Mynx specifically - my point was that it isn't the # that is the problem, it's the proportion. Someone who only weighs 112# can still have back problems due to body shape and proportion, and as that is exactly what I said (with the qualification that if she is that shape, it's no wonder that she is having problems), please quit reading other things into it.

Sub4hire - I know a lot of people who have had or need breast reduction surgery - and those who have had it have had immense relief. I also know those who have larger breasts and haven't had trouble, BUT those have been quite rare, expecially with those D and over (I have only known one personally who had trouble with C, and only one or two over D who haven't had trouble).

*edited for civility reasons*



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