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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/7/2005 10:27:20 PM   
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Chiropractor, well I know a very good dom who happens to be one. He seems to cause me more harm than he has ever given me relief.
I know that should'nt be the norm either..but just telling you of my experiences.

Perhaps he's just a better dom than he is a chiropractor?

A couple of years ago, I had pain in back that was exacerbated by standing on hard, data center floors for 10-12 hours a day. It caused pain very much like that which Minx described. It started in my lower back then radiated down and around to the front of my thigh and down my left leg. At the point where I was having trouble standing in the check-out line at the market and throwing down naprosyn like they were tic-tacs, I decided I needed to see someone about it.

I went to my GP and he couldn't come up with anything definitive, so I asked for a referral to a chiropractor a co-worker recommended. After an initial exam and some complimentary irradiation, I saw him three times a week for 5 weeks and the pain disappeared. 5 years later and it's still gone.

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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 5:00:03 AM   
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*laughs* damn, a C cup??? I wish!!!!
I can safely assure you all, my back pain has nothing to do with weight, or from possessing huge melons *grins*

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Sheesh, well now you have TWO reasons to relax and reduce your tension, BobcatsLilMinx, the other being so that you can tranquilize more sheep!


Those damn sheep.... grrr, getting stressed about them, now THAT might have caused the pain!!! *laughs*

Some amazingly helpful suggestions here.... thank you all very much, though I have to say, it's the first time I've ever logged into a forum where people were discussing my boob size!!

*still giggling*
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RE: Question about back pain - 5/8/2005 5:56:33 AM   
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Try wearing dresses more often. I have a curved spine as well and I was told to wear dresses a lot. Wearing pants has a tendency to "pull" on your spine everytime you sit down. I know, didn't make sense to me either, but I tried it and it worked great. Just a thought.

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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 8:23:09 AM   
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I know a lot of people who have had or need breast reduction surgery - and those who have had it have had immense relief. I also know those who have larger breasts and haven't had trouble, BUT those have been quite rare, expecially with those D and over (I have only known one personally who had trouble with C, and only one or two over D who haven't had trouble).


Now you know 2..well sort of. I can also add about 12 more to that list. Although, they are not here on the board's. I've only known one person in total to do reduction surgery...wasn't for pain. It was because they were sagging too much.

Like I said. That is always the first thing I hear as well. I'm sure it is quite an issue. Most people who have larger breasts you cannot even tell they do. Usually they just blend in with their stomach...which yes. I can see how it would be very hard on the back.
A little bit of exercise would do wonder's. I'm surprised why doctor's don't recommend it before doing surgery?
I think they should. Then again they would'nt be able to make all of that money for nothing.

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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 8:26:29 AM   
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Perhaps he's just a better dom than he is a chiropractor?


Could be, but he has quite the client list. Also though...I'm someone who only sleeps soundly on my side..which twists up my back. So the first thing I do each morning is crack my back so I can straighten up. More often than not once I'm cracked all pain has subsided.
So, it could be because I'm not used to a person hefting me up into the air to crack my back...then having that feeling of my entire back falling out from under me.


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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 9:38:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
Like I said. That is always the first thing I hear as well. I'm sure it is quite an issue. Most people who have larger breasts you cannot even tell they do. Usually they just blend in with their stomach...which yes. I can see how it would be very hard on the back.
A little bit of exercise would do wonder's. I'm surprised why doctor's don't recommend it before doing surgery?
I think they should. Then again they would'nt be able to make all of that money for nothing.



The ones that I know who have had the surgery (and the ones who still need it) have lost weight (or are trying to, in Holly's case ... damn heart condition) - but their breasts are mammary tissue, not fat tissue, so losing weight doesn't do as much good as it should in theory. I'm in the process of losing weight, and while 1/2 of the bra size is going down, the other 1/2 is going up (number going down, letter going up) ... it kinda sucks. Although at least I haven't noticed having any more trouble with my upper back than I was having before.

Anyway, I'm done highjacking the thread. Sorry, Minx.

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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 11:18:26 AM   
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*giggles* it's ok, SweetDommes... it's all interesting!

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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 5:48:20 PM   
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Although at least I haven't noticed having any more trouble with my upper back than I was having before.


Is it supposed to give you lower back or uppre back pain? Just curious is all. All I've ever heard was larger breasts give people back pain.

I wonder if it is the same for silicone? Those have to have some weight in them. I know each one of my breasts weighs 9 pounds a piece...but 18 pounds is nothing to me.

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RE: Question about back pain - 5/8/2005 5:54:44 PM   
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Something that works for me is yoga. It could be just from the stress and there are all sorts of exercises you can do to stretch out back muscles. I think of it as being your own chiropractor.

However, if you have a problem with your spine like a bad disk or something, then I don't think you want to do this. So if the doctor doesn't find a problem then you could consider giving it a shot.

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/8/2005 5:56:41 PM   
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sissy - I specifically said "if" and that I didn't know what her shape was

sissy Is fully aware of what you said, and so is everyone else that read your self-centered little rant ... perhaps you need to look up the word "hypothetical" in a dictionary ?

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I was really only referring to Emerald's comment and your followup about weight, not Mynx specifically

Perhaps you should learn the discipline of reading the whole thread before jumping into the middle of it in order to hijack it onto your favorite "broken record" topic - you and Holly! Everywhere you post, whatever the thread topic, you always force the discussion onto either you or Holly or both, and your difficulty in finding a suitable submissive for your household. Apparently you confuse your own self-absorption, selfishness, egotism and rapaciousness with Dominance! No wonder you can't find what you are looking for!

This was (and still is, unless you hijack it again) Minx's thread asking questions about her lower back pain and fear of her upcoming doctor's visit. Most of us that posted here tried to offer useful advice and comfort to her. Since you are an RN and the subject matter of this thread seeks medical advice, this was the perfect opportunity for you to give freely of yourself to another and share your specialized medical knowledge constructively in order to help Minx out given her stated concerns. But you chose instead to turn it into yet another self-centered and obsessive rant about the SweetDommes household, the focus this time being on how you are both overweight and how having large breasts is a common cause of upper back pain ... NONE of which was of the slightest relevance nor helpful to Minx's situation!

It had already been established on this thread before you made that post against sissy that Minx is height-weight proportionate and has pain in her lower back. The reason you posted on the topic of back pain caused by obesity and large boobs is because those are your and Holly's personal problems and EVERYTHING revolves around you two. Actually, sissy is doing Holly a disservice here because you never let her near the keyboard ... YOU are the ONLY one that posts and everything revolves around YOU and YOUR obesity and YOUR too large tits! Plus your obvious disapproval of other women "shaped like a Barbie doll" ... sounds a little like envy to this sissy!

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please quit reading other things into it.

sissy Did not read anything into your post ... he merely encapsulated exactly what you said, but just a little more succinctly than you were able to do it. Actually, talk about the kettle calling the pot black! You started your initial post against sissy: "It's not about just weight - as Emerald pointed out, it's about proportions ..." That makes a whole lot of assumptions WRT sissy's post that are incorrect. sissy Didn't address the subject of proportions in Emerald's post, not because he wasn't aware of them, but because they only apply to upper back pain - which made them irrelevant since the topic under discussion on this thread was lower back pain. So right back at ya, SweetDommes, please quit reading other things into sissy's posts!

sissy maid lola





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RE: weight is a big factor - 5/8/2005 6:19:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
Is it supposed to give you lower back or uppre back pain? Just curious is all. All I've ever heard was larger breasts give people back pain.

I wonder if it is the same for silicone? Those have to have some weight in them. I know each one of my breasts weighs 9 pounds a piece...but 18 pounds is nothing to me.



Ours (and the other people we know who have trouble) is all upper. General weight caused problems tend to be lower. I haven't a clue about what silicone does. I only know of one person who has them and she hasn't had them very long.

As for comments made about me jumping in without reading - I was one of the first posters to reply so I obviously did not jump into the thread in the middle, and I have attempted to give some advice. My comments posted later were in response to things that had been said later on in the thread not the original post (obviously ... or at least it was obvious to most people) - I felt that some things needed to be clarified, so I did so, and I have already appologised for highjacking the thread - I will not appologise again, nor should I have to.

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RE: Thanks for the mammaries - 5/8/2005 8:59:36 PM   
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have to say, it's the first time I've ever logged into a forum where people were discussing my boob size!!

At least with each new post you read you were kept abreast of the thread's current direction! Hopefully, you weren't made to feel a right tit by any of the expressed comments! <giggles>

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/8/2005 9:27:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
sissy Is fully aware of what you said, and so is everyone else that read your self-centered little rant ... perhaps you need to look up the word "hypothetical" in a dictionary ?

I didn't see anything self-centered or rantish about her posts. This one is far more so than anything anyone else has posted on this thread.

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Apparently you confuse your own self-absorption, selfishness, egotism and rapaciousness with Dominance! No wonder you can't find what you are looking for!

And obviously you have unresolved growing issues which you chose to vomit onto this thread.

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But you chose instead to turn it into yet another self-centered and obsessive rant about the SweetDommes household, the focus this time being on how you are both overweight and how having large breasts is a common cause of upper back pain ... NONE of which was of the slightest relevance nor helpful to Minx's situation!

I think we can let our little Minxie and her dom decide for herself what will be relevant or helpful to her. (BTW Minx that was meant as a cute smiley, not a deragatory way to use your nickname)

I also didn't see anything about the household being mentioned and the fact is that larger breasts is a known cause of back pain.

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YOU are the ONLY one that posts and everything revolves around YOU and YOUR obesity and YOUR too large tits! Plus your obvious disapproval of other women "shaped like a Barbie doll" ... sounds a little like envy to this sissy!

I think sissy needs to cool out. What was disapproving of her mentioning barbie doll? If you took a generic barbie doll and made her into human proportions she would be VERY badly off due to her breast size. (don't let Mattell sue me for that ok?)


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sissy Did not read anything into your post ...

Except that it was a self-centered personalize rant to take the focus onto her and disapproving of "barbie dolls".

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You started your initial post against sissy: "It's not about just weight - as Emerald pointed out, it's about proportions ..."

So her post was against you? And she's the self-centered one?

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That makes a whole lot of assumptions WRT sissy's post that are incorrect. sissy Didn't address the subject of proportions in Emerald's post, not because he wasn't aware of them, but because they only apply to upper back pain - which made them irrelevant since the topic under discussion on this thread was lower back pain. So right back at ya, SweetDommes, please quit reading other things into sissy's posts!


So how exactly did THIS post bear relevance and help Minx out?

Hmm this entire post is a little smoking isn't it? I promise to be cool now. :)

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/8/2005 9:30:52 PM   
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Since apparently I'm the one who got this thread off topic *rolls eyes* ...

Minx, how are you feeling today and have you found a doctor or chiropractor who can see you sometime this week?

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/9/2005 12:57:54 AM   
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And obviously you have unresolved growing issues which you chose to vomit onto this thread.

Well, sissy doesn't know if they are "unresolved growing issues" but if you read enough of Karen's posts on other threads you would know that sissy's comments are based on a firm basis of fact. You don't have to agree with those comments any more than sissy has to agree with your own vomited comments. And, of course, if you haven't read the same posts and observed the same hijacking process going on elsewhere you probably won't agree with them. Was what Karen posted here the most egregious example of such hijacking ? No, it wasn't. But since she posted here accusing sissy of doing the very thing she was actually guilty of herself (namely, reading something into sissy's posts that wasn't relevant) and causing him to address that issue anyway, he decided to also address the other issue here, too. Out of context it may seem severe to you, and sissy won't dispute that impression, but context is EVERYTHING. Whichever thread sissy had addressed this issue on would have been out of context for only that thread.

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I also didn't see anything about the household being mentioned and the fact is that larger breasts is a known cause of back pain.

The term "household" was merely used as an alternative way of referring to Karen and Holly. As for the latter point made in that sentence you need to improve your comprehension levels ... that point was made a number of times by Karen across a number of her posts. Your own post here about "overall body and breast size" that sissy posted against was the trigger for that issue. See, this is ultimately all your fault! <giggles>

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I think sissy needs to cool out. What was disapproving of her mentioning barbie doll? If you took a generic barbie doll and made her into human proportions she would be VERY badly off due to her breast size. (don't let Mattell sue me for that ok?)

Go read that post again, Emerald. sissy Doesn't believe breast size has anything to do with the Barbie doll remark ... the implication is simply that having a Barbie doll figure is in of itself the problem. But that is all bye the bye. The remark was quite disparaging towards Minx: "if she's shaped like a Barbie doll, it would be no wonder that she has back trouble (as I don't know her proportions, I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least part of the problem)" although admittedly prepended by the "if" so it's all OK, isn't it ?

Try this on for size, Emerald: "sissy Doesn't know you from Adam, but if he did, he would say unequivocally that you were a totally stupid moron." Is that an insult ? Sure feels like one, doesn't it ? But sissy qualified it with the "if" clause, and since he doesn't, in fact, know you from Adam, the latter part of that conditional statement is not true and therefore it's not actually an insult. But it still feels like one, doesn't it ? That construct is a standard way of inflicting all the emotional trauma of an insult on someone while maintaining plausible denial for the insult should you get called on it.

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sissy Did not read anything into your post ...

Except that it was a self-centered personalize rant to take the focus onto her and disapproving of "barbie dolls".

Now you are playing around with the chronology of posts. Even if sissy did read what you claim into a post, it was at a later time in the post to which you responded, and that post is NOT the same one that is referred to in the quote. What you just did was a totally disingenuous juxtaposition to create an apparent contradiction where there was none, and you well know it, Emerald!

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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
You started your initial post against sissy: "It's not about just weight - as Emerald pointed out, it's about proportions ..."

So her post was against you? And she's the self-centered one?

The term "to post against someone" means to respond to their post directly. sissy Posted against your post and then Karen posted against his ... that was her "initial post against sissy."

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So how exactly did THIS post bear relevance and help Minx out?

That post didn't help Minx out, but this one hopefully did. sissy's Later post simply called SweetDommes on her b.s. like this one calls you on yours!

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Hmm this entire post is a little smoking isn't it? I promise to be cool now. :)

You said it, Emerald. sissy Has done you the courtesy of seriously addressing the points in your post (and not simply ignoring it as a flame) but he is not going to get into a flame war with you. Please let it go now.

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/9/2005 6:10:21 AM   
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(BTW Minx that was meant as a cute smiley, not a deragatory way to use your nickname)


No worries, the personnel here at Planet Minx welcome all cutiefications of our name

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Minx, how are you feeling today and have you found a doctor or chiropractor who can see you sometime this week?


I eventually caved and went to the emergency clinic (hate having to do that, but it was getting pretty impossible) and they gave me the painkillers they give to people with athritis, so thats really dulled the pain enough for me to get on with my life! I've been sleeping on my back, with just the one pillow, and now I have the ability to move again, I plan to start exercising it a little, did someone mention pilates?? And there has been so much wonderful advice on this thread... I'm going to follow all that I can and see what helps!!

The plan is to keep the painkillers going a couple of weeks, and to exercise some, and then go back to the docs if it's still not getting better... if I have to do that, I'll definitely ask about chiropracters on the NHS... Thanks for asking, SweetDommes!

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At least with each new post you read you were kept abreast of the thread's current direction! Hopefully, you weren't made to feel a right tit by any of the expressed comments! <giggles>


*grins* while it was indisputably bizarre to be watching my boob size shoot up and down, I'm extremely fond of my baby melons, and me and my fruit were in no way offended, intimidated, or threatened by the suggestions that they might be larger than they are.... In fact hearing all about this backpain has given me yet one more arguement against those who can't understand why I don't want them surgically enhanced!

Ah, this post has made me laugh so much...

*with giggles*
Minx

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RE: oh, the hypocrisy! - 5/9/2005 7:15:41 AM   
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Heh, well, now that I finally figured out why I wasn't allowed to post - here I am. Glad that you are feeling better. We know and understand how you feel about emergency clinics, but sometimes you don't have a choice. I hope that this is enough to get you back on the right track so that you don't have to mess with it again.

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