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RE: invincibility - 5/10/2007 1:45:21 PM

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julietsierra ~ wow, what a great post. Absolutly! Partners are partners and with love and thoughtfulness and concern for one another we just make things work out. 4 years ago Argent was having some bad health issues and he was not quite 50 yet. Well, life sometimes has a quirky sense of humor and at a time when I really needed to be there for him emotionally, to be able to help him cope with what might have been a life threatening situation I was thrown a real curve ball of my own. He was diagnosed with a congenital heart disease and I was diagnosed with diabetes and cancer ~ all in less than 2 week's time. He was experimenting with new and different drug regimes and I was trying to learn to control my diabetes so they could plan my surgery, all while keeping our seperate and combined wits about us (and he and I were/are building our own home, every nail and screw). I desperately needed him to comfort me and he desperately needed me to comfort him and the best we could do was lay in bed and cry with each other for awhile, as the sort of whiplash feeling made us dizzy. We relied on friends and family, took medical advice from experts, and just did the best we could. But the bottom line was no mater what happened we were both there for each other, what one could do for the other we did. Isn't that what being partners is about?

Bounty - in our case Argent is actually in better physical condition than I am due to some old accident-injuries. I am not crippled or anything, just have a few physical limitations. But that does not mean I do not try or would not try to do what ever he required of me when he needed me. It is a sad truth of like that we cannot all do what we used to do and if a sub is able then I would think it was totally correct to have them do what they can. As long as they are doing it for you or by your direction, you are still in charge.

Our local community had a Dom who was wheelchair bound and legally blind (sadly he passed recently) but watching him with his 2 - yes, 2 girls was so much fun. He was clearly in charge. Yes they had to make sure he got to where he wanted or needed to go, they got his food and made sure he knew what it was, made sure it was cut properly, but their attitude was always one of service and never did they appear to think they were any better than he was. They even played - he loved to use a flogger and he was quite good at it - I have to say seeing a blind man in a wheel chair the first time as he prepared to play at a party was pretty mindboggling, but once the scene began there was not doubt that here was a clearly dominant and proficient man with 2 beautiful ladies who loved him very much.

True partners in life always compliment one another and as their life and partnership ebbs and flows with life one may seem to have more responsibilities that the other, but the overall dynamic is in place and all remains stable.

edited for nasty typos!

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RE: invincibility - 5/10/2007 4:24:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you

Bounty before we let this die I'd like to say something to Magik's slave and Celeste. Somehow in reading their comments they have an attitude like a femininist. By definition a slave is owned property to do whatever their owner wants. It really comes down to what the parameters of the relationship are. If it is D/s it's possible to have what you are suggesting, however if it's M/s it's what I said. Can an owner become fond or more than fond of a slave maybe even love her. Yes. But when push comes to shove she is still slave and owned, to do whatever her owner wants.
Bounty I'm 59 and without boring you with the details I'm going through what you asked. Yes I would increase her burden if she'd been able to handle the burden she already has. The solution is to add an additional slave to pick up the slack if your reduction in ability is going to be long term.
Alan

Wow you have done what no one has ever been abel to do.. give a real deffanition of slave... (/end sarcasm)

Maybe that is how you define your M/s relationship, I am very much a slave but i would never chose to be with someone that didnt want to share the burden of growing old, that is ME, I wasnt speaking for anyone els and neather was Celest wee have a right to our opinions just as you have your right to yours, you seem to not take on the saying "your kink is not my kink but thats ok" and that is NOT ok with me I bashed no one here and didnt deserve to be flamed in return, I simply asked a question in resonse to his op!!

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RE: invincibility - 5/11/2007 1:56:07 AM

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Magic's slave,
It was not my desire or intent to flame you however your sarcasm does not bespeak the attitude of a slave. Just for a reality check let's pretend it's 1850 and you showed any of your owners staff or family any attitude or sarcasm or lets get current and say you've fallen into the clutches of a human trafficer do you think "that" slave would ever show sarcasm again. Let be honest in that we try to use these labels to get a flash understanding of where someone sees themself or their POV. In reading posts and profiles I find a lot of self identified slaves with the attitude of a submissive and vice versa. However when that is done it creates a lot of confusion and that is what I was speaking to. See slaves don't have any rights to opinions or anything else. They have priveledges granted by their owner. Again I wasn't intending to flame you but maybe correct you. I can see cofusion in how you write sometimes cap I and later i.
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RE: invincibility - 5/11/2007 3:20:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you

... your sarcasm does not bespeak the attitude of a slave ... See slaves don't have any rights to opinions or anything else. They have priveledges granted by their owner. Again I wasn't intending to flame you but maybe correct you...

And did MagiksSlave's owner give you permission to correct her? For that matter, did he submit to you the authority to decide what rights, opinions or privileges he is allowed to grant her? Or decide what attitude she is permitted to have?

It not, then perhaps you've overstepped your bounds.

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RE: invincibility - 5/11/2007 11:27:46 AM

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Magic's slave,
It was not my desire or intent to flame you however your sarcasm does not bespeak the attitude of a slave. Just for a reality check let's pretend it's 1850 and you showed any of your owners staff or family any attitude or sarcasm or lets get current and say you've fallen into the clutches of a human trafficer do you think "that" slave would ever show sarcasm again. Let be honest in that we try to use these labels to get a flash understanding of where someone sees themself or their POV. In reading posts and profiles I find a lot of self identified slaves with the attitude of a submissive and vice versa. However when that is done it creates a lot of confusion and that is what I was speaking to. See slaves don't have any rights to opinions or anything else. They have priveledges granted by their owner. Again I wasn't intending to flame you but maybe correct you. I can see cofusion in how you write sometimes cap I and later i.
Good luck

Oh yes your right slaves have no rights save what is given to them by their Masters and this SLAVE (yes I am a slave but Im a slave to my Master not to the world and definetly no to these boards) and one of those rights is freedom of speach on these boards. Master incurages me to speak my mind and doesnt require me to suffer fools by haveing to be polite to people who have not earned my respect, though he insists that people that he feels should have my respect be treated as such which doesnt mean I cant express my opinion to them I can just do it a little more without all the protocall, I am aloud to speak my opinion and there for I have done nothing unslavely and I am acting very much like a slave following my Masters laws for me, just because I am not following your rules does not make me less of a slave it just makes me not YOUR slave, You should really take into consideration the indavidual Master befor you go around telling people what they are and are not!! and as for the I and the i I dont fall into the trappings of online slavery meaning I dont care much for the I/i talk and dont go out of my way to do it myself and sometimes I lose a stay uncaped i but thats just bad grammer on my part and has nothing to do with my status as Masters slave... I am highly insulted and rather taken a back at your fowordness and your thought that you have the ability to tell ANYONE els who they are!!!

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RE: invincibility - 5/11/2007 11:32:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you

... your sarcasm does not bespeak the attitude of a slave ... See slaves don't have any rights to opinions or anything else. They have priveledges granted by their owner. Again I wasn't intending to flame you but maybe correct you...

And did MagiksSlave's owner give you permission to correct her? For that matter, did he submit to you the authority to decide what rights, opinions or privileges he is allowed to grant her? Or decide what attitude she is permitted to have?

It not, then perhaps you've overstepped your bounds.

Thank you lostteasures i didnt read this befor I made my reply but you are very right and I do feel he oversteped his bounds as I think my Master does as well thank you for saying this I apreaciate it!!

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RE: invincibility - 5/12/2007 12:51:35 AM

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Let's see losttreasure, public forum. Enough said. If a Dominant takes the time to point out how somone is percieved without being disrespectful then take the information and either use it or not. If your Master/owner is happy and satisfied with the way you are percieved as a reflection of Him/Her that is his right and through him your priveledge. lostreasure I didn't look at your profile to see if you are in a relationship or not, but based on the tone of what you wrote I'd say that you could look in the same mirror

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RE: invincibility - 5/12/2007 8:10:42 AM

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Let's see losttreasure, public forum. Enough said. If a Dominant takes the time to point out how somone is percieved without being disrespectful then take the information and either use it or not. If your Master/owner is happy and satisfied with the way you are percieved as a reflection of Him/Her that is his right and through him your priveledge. lostreasure I didn't look at your profile to see if you are in a relationship or not, but based on the tone of what you wrote I'd say that you could look in the same mirror

If a Dominant takes the time to point out how somone is percieved without being disrespectful then take the information and either use it or not.

And, if a sub or a slave takes the time to point out how someone is perceived withouth being disrespectful then take the information and either use it or not.

If your Master/owner is happy and satisfied with the way you are percieved as a reflection of Him/Her that is his right and through him your priveledge.

I am. It is.

I didn't look at your profile to see if you are in a relationship or not, but based on the tone of what you wrote I'd say that you could look in the same mirror

There is not a thing wrong with her tone. In fact, she was straightforward and dispassionate. She has no need to look into a mirror.

Personally, my preference is to surround myself with people who have cognitive abilities that mirror my own, along with the strength of character to call things as they see them. Tactfully and nicely if possible. Directly and strictly if necessary. But address them.

treasure has made her point directly, and without insult. If you feel offended, perhaps you are the one who should look inward. Or in a mirror, whatever metaphor you wish to employ.

Best wishes.

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RE: invincibility - 5/12/2007 8:55:58 PM

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Who is the greater master, the strong or the wise? Or like in baseball, good pitching always beats good hitting.

Duh. The guy who is stronger and smarter than you. The whole mind/body dualism thing is is so effete--why do weak guys console themselves with the thoguth that they must have some interior, esoteric strength to comp?

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