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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 1:08:57 PM   
arayofsunshine55


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Status: offline 		I really have no issue with you paying for it.   But you seem to be acting like this professional relationship is something else.  Is she testing you?  Do you think she really cares if you're seeing someone else?  Although she may care for you it's hard to imagine that she is that invested in your monogamy.  That doesnt seem to jive with my thoughts on professional relationships.  Maybe you should take her at her word when she says she's OK with seeing somsone esle "if you must".

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 1:35:35 PM   
Politesub53


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Status: offline 		A health question if i may. The Op states he is stretched twice a week. How long does it take for the muscles to return to the normal position ? surely doing it too regularly would cause health problems in the long term ?

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 4:48:02 PM   
malloves69


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Status: offline 		no problems physically yet   amazing how quick it goes back to its normal size ....even more amazing how great it feels to be fisted by a woman and how much you do miss it   much better then strapon play i must say ...whats exciting now is how much easier she can fist me once she has used her strapons on me ...she used to count 1 2 3 then push in but last time it was like 1 and next thing i knew she was inside of me   we use crisco as a lube and i swear by that stuff for fisting ...have fun ..mal ...oh and thanks ladys for the replys

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 6:29:33 PM   
hereyesruponyou


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 6:44:40 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Regarding content of the OP, I am sorry, but I don't believe the validity of it for a moment. 
 
Your Pro, who you see two times a week, is willing to give up Her cash cow, to allow this strap on "orgy" you describe, doesn't quite seem authentic to Me.  Exactly which four ladies would be included in this event?  She is calling your bluff.  Personally, I think your Pro-Domme is out to show you that your fantasy will not exist without Her, and you ponying up with payment.  After all, if you can get this same, or even better times four, without Her, exactly what are you paying Her for?
 
Or, there is another way to look at it.  As a 'client' you have become overly attatched and She is looking for a way to end the business relationship.  If you find another Pro, or even a disconnected 'freebie', maybe She can take you off of her client's list.  Perhaps She is tired of your wants always effecting Her preferred style.  If She really left you the toys (with Her consent) She really doesn't feel the need to continue and is ready to make Her living somewhere else. 
 
As other's have said, if this activity is sanctioned by Her, there is no reason to live out your fantasy to it's fullest!  Live your dream and have the time of your life doing it!  Somehow, though, I highly doubt the situation is as you describe.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 6:58:45 PM   
MsLadySue


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Status: offline 		Simply my thoughts on the OP's post.

Must be nice to have the kind of money on hand that one can see a pro twice a week. I have a relatively good idea what the hourly rate is and even at the lower end of the scale that's a lot of money to spend to have your ass fisted.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 7:00:05 PM   
MistressDiane


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Status: offline 		Snowball kiss? OK maybe I am a bit old fogey these days but would you mind explaining just so I can verify what I *think* that is? I know it's not a cookie......

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 7:53:48 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Sharing a male's cum via a kiss.  Hope that helps.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/17/2007 7:56:18 PM   
TheDiva


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Status: offline 		Maybe he gets discounts and/or coupons for being a loyal customer. ;)

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 2:59:21 AM   
FemMiss


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Status: offline 		i always wonder why men like to pay for mistresses! why dont u try to find a mistress who is willing to be ur g/f or ur wife? Mistresses like to be with slaves.. u dont have to pay for it!

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 4:56:00 AM   
MsSonnetMarwood


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Status: offline 		Because that would also mean that he'd have to find a lifestyle mistress willing to focus and cater to his fetish with the same intensity as the prodomme he pays to focus and cater to his fetish.

I doubt very much that would happen.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 5:09:34 AM   
Politesub53


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FemMiss

i always wonder why men like to pay for mistresses! why dont u try to find a mistress who is willing to be ur g/f or ur wife? Mistresses like to be with slaves.. u dont have to pay for it!


i dont see anything wrong in paying for the experience. Proper toys and equipment cost money, as do premises. All one is paying for is a service that you require, maybe the guy is married, or inquisitive and wants to find out if he likes it or get his needs filled.
It maybe some guys havent yet found a Mistress for a more permanent relationship, yet pay to have needs filled or to learn more aboutthemselves in the meantime.


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 12:35:56 PM   
MistressDiane


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Status: offline 		him and her sharing it? Which means he's paying her to suck his cock...right? Just trying to get a clear picture here.

edited to add......This is in response to the snowball statement.

< Message edited by MistressDiane -- 6/18/2007 12:40:19 PM >

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 12:40:06 PM   
MistressSassy66


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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

ok...no offence to all yo professionals out there...but seriously dude you are PAYING her! You're one of her many clients you aint her boyfriend!!! It would be a tad different if you didn't have to pay her to do this!
Gosh give me a break!


Hello Missy,
For starters just because someone is a Pro doesnt mean they dont develope a relationship.
I have a submissive of 3 years who misses Me greatly when I'm gone or he's gone.
he is just one of several who feel the same way.
I feel lucky to be blessed with so many who love Me.
BTW....In My case its not about sex which is even more ridiculus right.

None are My boyfriends,but I care very deeply for them all as part of My family.
Dont judge/namecall what you apparently know nothing about.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 12:49:24 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: MistressDiane

him and her sharing it? Which means he's paying her to suck his cock...right? Just trying to get a clear picture here.

edited to add......This is in response to the snowball statement.


Can't speak to their situation.  I was just defining the 'snowball'.  Maybe it can be cleared up for both of Us.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 12:53:54 PM   
littlesarbonn


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

Because that would also mean that he'd have to find a lifestyle mistress willing to focus and cater to his fetish with the same intensity as the prodomme he pays to focus and cater to his fetish.

I doubt very much that would happen.


Not only that, but it's nowhere near as easy to find a lifestyle mistress who also wants the submissive as well. Even submissives with a stellar reputation have a VERY difficult time making a connection. And I'm talking about someone who's main fetish is the Mistress's satisfaction and pleasure. I can see why pay for play is such an attractive situation for some people.

And that's pretty much how I started as well. I didn't even know there were real people in the scene who liked to own other people. I figured there was a tiny segment of people like this, and they were ALL professional dominants or maybe retired. My first five MAJOR relationships were ALL with professional dominants who made me a part of their lives without the mistress-client dynamic. I really didn't feel that there was much else out there.

And then slowly, you start to meet people who aren't professionals, and you realize that this is a kink with non professional people, too. But then you start to realize that you really don't know how to communicate properly to win the affection of a woman who is seeking a submissive. If you haven't dated a lot in the vanilla world before this, you're even worse off because you don't have a clue how to even approach her, and you're probably going to approach her from some submissive demeanor that might just actually turn off the person you're seeking.

It takes time. And even after time, it's still very difficult. Here I am, going on decades into bdsm, and I still find myself trying to figure it all out. I can so see the appeal of a professional dominant because of this. It's even worse after you figure out you're not a do-me king with a laundry list. Then you pay for sessions with someone and then start to think, "why is I can't find someone who isn't charging me money for this?" and you become very depressed because no matter how sincere you try to be, you're generally taken seriously by those who are seeking what you may be.

It's real easy for someone like FemMiss to criticize a person for seeking out a professional dominant instead of a lifestyle one (and I'm not really criticizing you, but just using your very recent post as an example because a LOT of people do this very exact same thing), but that doesn't mean it's that much easier for the submissive to find just that.

This isn't a rant or complaint. Just a clarification of why I think a lot of submissives do seek out professional dominants, even though there are many lifestyle dominants out there who appear to have trouble finding sincere submissives (if you read the boards and talk to scene players in person).


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 1:16:49 PM   
LadyIce


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

ok...no offence to all yo professionals out there...but seriously dude you are PAYING her! You're one of her many clients you aint her boyfriend!!! It would be a tad different if you didn't have to pay her to do this!
Gosh give me a break!


Hello Missy,
For starters just because someone is a Pro doesnt mean they dont develope a relationship.
I have a submissive of 3 years who misses Me greatly when I'm gone or he's gone.
he is just one of several who feel the same way.
I feel lucky to be blessed with so many who love Me.
BTW....In My case its not about sex which is even more ridiculus right.

None are My boyfriends,but I care very deeply for them all as part of My family.
Dont judge/namecall what you apparently know nothing about.


This is how I feel MistressSassy, there is certainly a market for Professional Dominants.
I have a friend that started as a lifestyler and then went Professional.
I am not sure why so many tend to have anomisity towards Professional Dominants.
If it is not your cup of tea, no one is asking  you to drink it.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 3:03:07 PM   
MissyRane


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Status: offline 		(I aint saying I'm right and you wrong I'm telling my opinion and I was talking about the client not the pro gosh don't be so sensitive!)
I do agree pro's can develope relationships yep they can amen for that, topic closed ugg
Let me ask you in general, alright so you're developing a relationship with a slave...do you only feed his fetish then? I mean sure you can maybe care for the person but do you start a relationship off by feeding their fantasies endlessly? ....this is kinda IN GENERAL question.. don't chop my head off o.O
i.e. to ME he only seems to think about his fetish and about how much his ass can take.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 4:29:41 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

(I aint saying I'm right and you wrong I'm telling my opinion and I was talking about the client not the pro gosh don't be so sensitive!)
I do agree pro's can develope relationships yep they can amen for that, topic closed ugg
Let me ask you in general, alright so you're developing a relationship with a slave...do you only feed his fetish then? I mean sure you can maybe care for the person but do you start a relationship off by feeding their fantasies endlessly? ....this is kinda IN GENERAL question.. don't chop my head off o.O
i.e. to ME he only seems to think about his fetish and about how much his ass can take.


I'm sorry I do get defensive as the Pros get a bad rap here.
Some deserve it MOST dont.
My only point was that being a Pro doesnt mean We dont form friendships.
Friendships that are very caring in nature and last for years.
I dont feed their fetish...I take it into account and do what I want.
I have things I like to do to submissives so its not about what they want.
Its not endless fantasy...they are people just like other submissives who serve without paying.
Not to mention some get something out of paying,they feel helpful.

I agree this guy seems a lil attached,and cares only for his butt.
They arnt all that way,so a general statement puts them in the same catagory.

Again...sorry for "jumping" on ya,But We Pros are valuable people just as anyone else in this Lifestyle.


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 4:31:40 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyIce

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

ok...no offence to all yo professionals out there...but seriously dude you are PAYING her! You're one of her many clients you aint her boyfriend!!! It would be a tad different if you didn't have to pay her to do this!
Gosh give me a break!


Hello Missy,
For starters just because someone is a Pro doesnt mean they dont develope a relationship.
I have a submissive of 3 years who misses Me greatly when I'm gone or he's gone.
he is just one of several who feel the same way.
I feel lucky to be blessed with so many who love Me.
BTW....In My case its not about sex which is even more ridiculus right.

None are My boyfriends,but I care very deeply for them all as part of My family.
Dont judge/namecall what you apparently know nothing about.


This is how I feel MistressSassy, there is certainly a market for Professional Dominants.
I have a friend that started as a lifestyler and then went Professional.
I am not sure why so many tend to have anomisity towards Professional Dominants.
If it is not your cup of tea, no one is asking  you to drink it.


I am a Pro Domme...I love My tea thank you.

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