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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 5:23:36 PM   
PairOfDimes


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Wow, your message is tough to read. I think maybe some complete sentences, with periods and capital letters, would make it easier.

But you're not here for writing help. Thus:

I can't tell you whether the woman you're seeing really means it when she says that she'll be okay if you see other people. I generally operate on the belief that I'm only obliged to take into account what people actually tell me. In other words, if you've told me that you're okay with my doing X, and I do X, and my doing X makes you sad, I haven't done wrong--you've just done wrong in inadequately communicating or poorly estimating your responsibilities. If this woman is professionally minded (i.e. not very emotionally involved) she probably is okay with it as long as she is away, but not okay with it if she's around, for the simple reason that it hurts her business for you to see someone other than her when she is around.

People in professional relationships--BDSM and otherwise--do get to decline clients and to end relationships with clients, for a variety of reasons. Since some hair stylists will refuse to "take back" a client who has tried out a competing salon, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that some pro doms would refuse to "take back" a client who had tried out a competing dominant. Still, if she's told you that she's okay with it, it's pretty unlikely that she would refuse you on her return.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 9:01:37 PM   
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I was wondering what the OP having a 'strong sex drive' would have to do with his pay sessions with his pay Pro-Domme.  Why would she suggest he see someone else because she 'knows' he has a high sex drive?

As a side note: there are dildo's that can be fitted for harnesses that do ejaculate.  They usually come with a recipie for how to make 'ejaculate'.

Wickad

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 10:06:44 PM   
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I'm going to add one more comment to this thread because I think it is a little more centered in reality that somewhat makes some sense.

Years ago, I was doing sessions with a professional dominant who eventually became my owner (and me her live-in). But before any of that happened, I saw her probably once every two weeks, even more frequent if I could somehow muster up the cash. There was another woman working at the establishment who was a really, really hot Asian dominatrix who used to constantly tease me whenever she ran into me at the house (cause I was there a lot, I was not really sequestered from the women, but sometimes allowed to hang out with them in the worker break area...no, don't ask me why because I never figured out why they let me when every other client had to wait in a small room for the mistress who was running his session). Anyway, my mistress was extremely popular and constantly booked so I was having more and more trouble actually booking sessions with her. This was even with enough notice (she had gotten to know me well, so I think she became comfortable canceling our sessions if something else came up, which was probably not a wise thing, but it wasn't enough to push me over the edge and stop seeing her).

After a number of weeks where I could never get a chance to see her, I finally started fantasizing about seeing the other woman I was talking about and decided that if my mistress of choice didn't have time for me, then no one would mind if I saw someone else. I was talking to the Asian dominatrix on the phone, and I told her what was going on and asked if it would be a problem if I saw her, even though I was seeing the woman who owned the establishment as a regular. She said it was okay, that clients did it all the time, and that my normal mistress wasn't even going to be working that week due to deciding to take that week off. So I booked that session with her instead.

When I arrived for the session, she met me at the door, and I was kind of nervous about seeing someone new, but she brought me to the room where clients had to wait, and I sat there for a few minutes before my previous mistress came in and stated, "I decided to take this session. I hope you don't mind." Well, I didn't, and it was a great session. When it was over, she began discussing the possibility of us moving our sessions to real time, rather than paid sessions. About a year later, she collared me and moved me into her place.

The moral of the story is that I believe that when she realized I was about to jump ship, she did the wisest thing she could do; she recaptured all lost ground. Had she not done so, I probably would have discontinued having sessions with her right about then, so her timing, as usual, was impeccable.


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 10:18:17 PM   
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Does ownership with a professional dominatrix in this case mean it's a relationship in that there are sessions but no fee is exchanged and the submissive does tasks, errands etc. for the femdom, or does it mean there's a romantic relationship as the foundation, including things like romantic kissing/fondling, making love, tickle fights, spooning, sharing ice cream from the same bowl, etc?

I get a little bit confused when submissives talk about relationships with lifestylers that sound more like houseboy relationships with special priveledges vs. romantic/cuddling/lust/making out type intimacy.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/18/2007 10:27:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Does ownership with a professional dominatrix in this case mean it's a relationship in that there are sessions but no fee is exchanged and the submissive does tasks, errands etc. for the femdom, or does it mean there's a romantic relationship as the foundation, including things like romantic kissing/fondling, making love, tickle fights, spooning, sharing ice cream from the same bowl, etc?

I get a little bit confused when submissives talk about relationships with lifestylers that sound more like houseboy relationships with special priveledges vs. romantic/cuddling/lust/making out type intimacy.

Akasha



It can mean as you described, but in this case it changed really fast. Most cases of this nature will be a houseboy like situation that might, if the submissive is extremely lucky, turn into something deeper. My situation happened differently, and I didn't understand why until much later when she was much more forthcoming. I'd been seeing her in sessions for several years, never expecting anything more than sessions. We'd gone to dinner, taken walks and stuff like that that was not session related or fund-related, and I was really too new to the whole scene to recognize anything was going on other than what I expected was probably the case for all professional scenes that just become deeper. I was very naive at this time.

What I discovered is that while we were still doing sessions, she fell in love with me. It's why our relationship became very intimate very fast. In the beginning, I thought this was some kind of legal loophole, in which she was becoming intimate with me away from sessions because to become intimate inside sessions would have constituted an actual crime. I think she realized the ethical problem she was running into and rather than turn it into a dilemma, she decided to move towards the ownership route, eliminating the session part of our relationship.


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/19/2007 5:22:16 AM   
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greetings   tried setting up the gang bang thing with 4 women but they wanted 800 for one hour worth of time and as far as im concerned thats a bit steep ...so i said pass ...i could see if something like that lasted 2 -3 hours but for one hour i thought they were just trying to take advantage and cash in ...some of your responses have really been great while others i believe dont understand the relationship i have with my mistress ...i have known her for the past 7 years and our times together are awesome ...yes i do wish one day she would collar me but for now i will take what i have because its the best thing i have going on ....yes i do pay her ...yes we do have sex ....yes she does fists me and fucks me with her strapons and i do love that   but i do believe she loves it also so its not all about what i want ...the sparkle in her eyes is real when she tells me she wants to fist me i believe ...unless she is a great actress also ....so i guess my ass stays faithfull to the one that has trained it and maybe thats whats best ....after all getting fisted you are in such a vulnerable position to share that with just anyone wouldnt be the same ...great way to submit to a woman i do believe   much better then strapon play in my book ...her strapons are like the fore-play to get me ready to open me up and get me to relax until out they go and in goes her fist   cant believe how relaxed i am afterwards too i find that truly amazing ...any other comments or questions feel free ...maybe i should mention to her once she gets back about the strapon gang bang thing to see if she can set it up maybe for a 50 th birthday present kind of thing ..after all for now she is the keeper of my ass and everything else i have to offer ...take care and be well ..mal

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/19/2007 6:15:13 AM   
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 $800 for 4 woman breaks down to about $200/each per hour - which is on the low side of the going rate for prodommes.  Should they get less than their regular rates because there's more of them?

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/19/2007 12:15:56 PM   
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(fast reply)

Interesting!!!

So, ... a Pro-Domme has sex with her clients.  I guess each woman sets her own standards as to what constitutes prostitution.

... or, maybe the OP is simply full of shit and enjoys describing in detail is wank-off fodder.

Either way, unless something of interest pops up on this thread, I'm pretty much done with it - lol.

Wickad

edited to put '(fast reply)' - lol, grrrr!

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 4:36:20 AM   
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yes wickad you know me im a wanker ...jacked off 5 times so far writing this ....NOT !! since im into the pay for play thing i figure thats what my money is paying for to get a lady to get me to cum ....much better that way i do believe   the 4 ladys i was in contact with wanted 200 per hour for a 1 hour gang bang ...hardly seemed worth it 15 mins each lady ...what i countered with was 2 ladys per  shift 1 at 200 per then second hour 2 more ladys show up at same pay scale which would equal 2 hours of strapon fun with 4 different women   now i bet that would be HOT ! and it would make for a great review   gawd i miss my mistress --lol ..and i said please no wimpy 6 in strapons either ...had to be at least 8 in to qualify   anyways ..have a great day ...mal

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 5:31:13 AM   
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I'm sorry, but I call shennanigans on this entire thread. I do not believe one word you have written - not your OP, not your followups.

And what Pro Domme would leave her toys with a submissive while she was on travel??? Especially this guy? You know they'd be shot when you returned home!

Shenanigans, I say.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 7:20:30 AM   
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well if you think im not for real and you are a mistress or a pro dom in michigan and you want to put something like this together email me and i will be there   if i dont show then you can tell everyone here im full of crap ...hows that ? cant do much more else talking about it would love to see it happen if any lady is into that kind of play and yes i would pay if thats what you wish ...time to get ready for work ...im out ...peace ..mal

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 8:28:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaMistressa

I'm sorry, but I call shennanigans on this entire thread. I do not believe one word you have written - not your OP, not your followups.

And what Pro Domme would leave her toys with a submissive while she was on travel??? Especially this guy? You know they'd be shot when you returned home!

Shenanigans, I say.



I just got this great South Park visual.  Can We All say Cartman gets an anal probe?
 
I'm sorry, mal.  I just had to do it.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 8:38:33 AM   
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Oooh, oooh, now we get to beat him with brooms.

*takes out the steel pipe that he glued some whiskers to the end of, classifying it as a "broom"*


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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 8:56:47 AM   
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OH; PPPUUUULEEEEEEEZE sleezzie......
Enough bullshit already. Mister, you are definitly playing with CM; bullshiting - bullshiters. Add more of the icons, and ughhhs, when you write 'strapon' add some ooooooohhhhhs and stuff; make it  (ahem) ...believable.
LOL, LOL,

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/20/2007 11:50:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dragone

OH; PPPUUUULEEEEEEEZE sleezzie......
Enough bullshit already. Mister, you are definitly playing with CM; bullshiting - bullshiters. Add more of the icons, and ughhhs, when you write 'strapon' add some ooooooohhhhhs and stuff; make it  (ahem) ...believable.
LOL, LOL,


Looking back now, I think he probably made the entire thing up and this is his attempt to solicit an "under the table" pay for play gang bang (with a little sex maybe).  Sort of like when subs say their Femdom ordered them to find another woman to submit to while she is on vacation and he has to write a report about it; sure, the femdom never existed in the first place.  Seems fishy!

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/21/2007 8:39:04 AM   
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If MY subbie went to someone and couldn't keep his ass parked until I returned, he would be HISTORY!

If getting your freak on is more important than your Domme...just TELL her.

I WOULD NOT see you again.

Finding that special person you click with is RARE...if she is a Pro or not.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/21/2007 9:35:00 PM   
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i love our times together and so far i have been faithfull to her because i dont want to lose what i have now ...just would love a more full-time relationship with either her or another mistress just like her  she will be back on wednesday ..if i can make it threw the weekend i will be fine ..she sent me a email me telling me to use one of the dildos in the shower if the urge gets to great ...which right now it is   gawd when she cums back im going to be tight for her strapons and her fist ..gawd i miss that feeling   have fun mal ... without seeing anyone at least im saving some money ...like they say no money no honey ...but i would rather spend the cash instead of doing with out it ...wednesday please cum fast   mal

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/21/2007 10:40:54 PM   
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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/23/2007 11:27:43 AM   
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Its pretty bad if you can't wait 2 weeks.........I have gone sometimes a year without even touching a woman.....sometimes it is very painful inside, but just deal with it.

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RE: question for the mistresses please - 6/25/2007 3:56:56 AM   
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I believe you, mal,  when you say your Mistress means a lot to you and you don't want to lose her. 

Some people cannot understand the emotional connection between pro-dommes and clients.  Something as intimate as regular (and mind-blowing) kinky sex is not a "business transaction".  Time with your Mistress sounds like the sparkling highlight of your existence.

Domination is nothing like casual prostitution, but people who do not know pro-dommes in real life cannot comprehend how it works. 

Clients and pro-dommes can be in relationships for decades and love eachother as dearly - if not more so - than vanillas. Men keep less secrets from their Mistresses than their wives.

Your Mistress is happy for you to see others (a kind of polyamoury) and presumably pay for the pleasure.  But you should have asked her who exactly she would - or would not - recommend. 

She would not want to lose a regular to the competiton.  She should have nominated someone from her own dungeon - perhaps one of the apprentices.  Don't see anyone else without her OK

Cheers







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