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Owner59 -> Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 5:41:45 PM)

Or would-be,foiled,thank heavens.

"Soldier Held Amid Claim of Terror Plot at Fort Hood"


"The police in Killeen, Tex., arrested the soldier, Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo, in a motel room near the southern edge of the base on Wednesday, one day after a clerk at a local gun store alerted the police about a suspicious purchase, the police said.

According to a law enforcement official, among the items found in Private Abdo’s room at the time of his arrest were a military uniform with Fort Hood patches, a pistol, shotgun shells and an article on “how to make a bomb in your kitchen” from the English-language Qaeda magazine Inspire. He also had more than one wall clock, a cellphone, duct tape and a shopping list for what appeared to be explosive components, the official said."




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 5:46:38 PM)

A concientious objector who felt he was losing his ties to Islam no less.




popeye1250 -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 6:03:15 PM)

LEFT WING TERRORIST!  LEFT WING TERRORIST!




Lucylastic -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 6:08:38 PM)

Congrats Mr Obama and his constant safe keeping of america..... safe from another terrorist attack




Owner59 -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 6:17:21 PM)

I see the cons are taking terrorism as serious as ever.




WhitePassion -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 7:08:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

LEFT WING TERRORIST!  LEFT WING TERRORIST!


RIGHT WING TERRORIST!! FAR RIGHT WING TERRORIST




TheHeretic -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 8:48:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I see the cons are taking terrorism as serious as ever.



Promoting islamophobia now, huh, Squealer?  We have always been at war with Eastasia, maybe?

(Glad they got the fucker.  Reports I read said the police were tipped off by a clerk in the same gun shop where Hasan bought some of his supplies)




Aswad -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 9:24:27 PM)

What's with the terrorism thing?

I get being fascinated with the technical details of an attack, the ideologies of a group, or the motives of people involved and so forth. That's essentially history in its nature. But the consistent eye to terrorism seems a bit hard to grasp. Europe has lived with terrorism for ages, and I've rarely heard Brits get into it. There's a disturbing similarity in some posts to the superficiality of interest in icons, just of the opposite connotation. Much like certain Christian sects are inclined to treat the Devil, with an eye to everything that could conceivably be his work. The extension to the witchhunts is obvious, but also done to death in oh-so-many ways, so I'll leave that out.

Anyone remember the IRA, Baader-Meinhof, RZ, etc?

Refreshing my memory off WP, it would seem that RZ claimed responsibility for some 183 attacks. One would imagine that would have left an indelible stain, and yet I hardly remember them, even with a sort of spiritual successor to them being a political party up here. I will admit to a better recollection of Baader-Meinhof, but not much about them, beyond their far left leanings. One of those two, I think, did an assassination with a shaped charge against an armored car, but I can neither recall which group, nor where it happened, nor who the target was, nor why it was carried out.

I do remember watching the Berlin Wall come down, however, and quite vividly.

Jihadists account for a handful of attacks per year on average, worldwide. Is anyone going to explain why I would assume that anything other than vague details about 9/11 and Beslan will stay a part of their legacy, except for the immense budget deficit and curtailed freedoms and stained international record that the US established in the course of losing a war with them? And anyone who doesn't remember Beslan is especially encouraged to answer why this case is more worthy of consideration than an average "dude pulls a gun, gets arrested" criminal case.

Why so quick to jump at shadows?

I continue to hear more about terrorism from US posters that largely have 9/11 to go on than I've written about a one week old event (post count, that is), and instead of analyses, it's FUD. That's more than just losing, and it reminds me of the flinching of a mistreated pet when one makes a sudden movement prior to rehabilitating them. As someone that grew up during the Reagan era, it's hard to watch, as if the country lost its pride and dignity post-9/11. I'm not saying it did, but I get a quite strong impression along those lines when comparing. Going back to GWB Jr., there was an impression of a proud and dignified country electing a moron for inexplicable reasons, then 9/11 occured, then a brief upsurge, then it winked out, leaving the moron. Mind you, I've got a different individual impression, but the "face" of the country?

Feels like it was on its knees faster than a crack whore, and about as desperate for a fistful of dollars.

Could someone shed some light on the how's and why's of this?

(That includes why I am wrong.)

Health,
al-Aswad.

Lexicon: FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt... worth looking up if it was unfamiliar.




Owner59 -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/28/2011 9:59:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I see the cons are taking terrorism as serious as ever.



Promoting islamophobia now, huh, Squealer?  We have always been at war with Eastasia, maybe?

(Glad they got the fucker.  Reports I read said the police were tipped off by a clerk in the same gun shop where Hasan bought some of his supplies)


I haven`t mention religion.


Not sure why a killer`s (or would-be killer) religion is an issue.


The killer part kinda transcends things like religion,race,favorite foods etc.


I don`t care what McVeigh`s religion was or Rudolph`s or bin-laden`s or the cocksuker in Norway`s or any cocksuker`s theological beliefs or there political leanings.They are killers and criminals and should be treated as such.No more no less.

Focusing on those aspects seems kinds dumb and mis-guided.

While you cons were telling us to target brown people w/ Arabie sounding names,rational folks were saying that terrorists aren`t always going to be so stereo-typical.That racial profiling is not only wrong but useless as well.

The cocksucker in my OP would have passed through the right`s version homeland security while holding up the darker skinned,middle eastern looking innocent good guys



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lm0FuwlLVo&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inOHOZlDBVA

The biggest ass of them all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yXXFLi4FQ


Thanks cons, for nothing but bigotry dressed as concern for our safety.





tweakabelle -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 12:44:18 AM)

quote:

What's with the terrorism thing?

I get being fascinated with the technical details of an attack, the ideologies of a group, or the motives of people involved and so forth. That's essentially history in its nature. But the consistent eye to terrorism seems a bit hard to grasp. Europe has lived with terrorism for ages, and I've rarely heard Brits get into it


What an excellent question!

I'm looking forward to hearing the responses to this.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 12:48:46 AM)

quote:

Naser Jason Abdo
you know, if i was a peaceful mind-my-fucking-business muslim in america, i would be so fucking pissed off at these assholes! [:D]




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 12:56:25 AM)

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and instead of analyses, it's FUD
because the fucking mass media panders to the lowest common denominator. they long ago gave up any pretense to being actual news sources and are merely entertainment providers.they can't provide actual analysis, because their target demographic isn't educated enough about world affairs to accept the results of intelligent thoughtful analysis. that and it's fucking boring. raving about the danger, the FUD <cool acronym!> draws viewers and sells toilet paper, and that's the only fucking purpose of the mass media nowadays.




Moonhead -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 4:53:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad
Anyone remember the IRA, Baader-Meinhof, RZ, etc?

Given that the Fenians used to get the bulk of their funding from Americans, I think the Republicans are quite keen to forget the IRA. The spectacle of Clinton and the chimp wining and dining Gerry Adams every Saint Paddy's day was fairly repulsive...




Anaxagoras -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 5:22:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead
quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad
Anyone remember the IRA, Baader-Meinhof, RZ, etc?

Given that the Fenians used to get the bulk of their funding from Americans, I think the Republicans are quite keen to forget the IRA. The spectacle of Clinton and the chimp wining and dining Gerry Adams every Saint Paddy's day was fairly repulsive...

Er... I think you'll find Clinton is a Democrat. Secondly it is untrue to say they were wining and dining Adams every Patricks Day. Clinton famously shook Adam's hand on Paddy's Day 1995 but this was at the onset of the peace process. This was after his administration had eased restrictions on fund raising which the US imposed in the early 1980's http://www.jstor.org/pss/30001841 on fundraising so you can hardly moan about the Republicans. In fact what Clinton did was arguably a very wise move since we all know the remarkable results the peace process of that time brought, not only to Ireland but Britain as well. Whilst one well known Republican is famed for supporting the IRA, it was not the norm. In 2006 Bush cracked down on Adams visiting the US, precluded him from fundraising and refused to meet him. Is it time for Moon to give "The Chimp" a banana? [8D]




Aneirin -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 5:37:24 AM)

It is almost as if anti terrorism is a new religion, furthermore I wonder how much the militarisation of the people plays a part ?

Making War at Home in the United States; Militarisation and the Current Crisis by Catherine Lutz




kdsub -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 5:56:24 AM)

Back to the good old two wrongs may a right argument Moon?

Butch




kdsub -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 5:59:44 AM)

What difference does it make what you call or classify the actions of those that would kill innocents?

Butch




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 8:40:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

What difference does it make what you call or classify the actions of those that would kill innocents?

Butch


Different laws apply for one thing.




Real0ne -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 8:54:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I see the cons are taking terrorism as serious as ever.



Promoting islamophobia now, huh, Squealer?  We have always been at war with Eastasia, maybe?

(Glad they got the fucker.  Reports I read said the police were tipped off by a clerk in the same gun shop where Hasan bought some of his supplies)


I haven`t mention religion.


Not sure why a killer`s (or would-be killer) religion is an issue.


The killer part kinda transcends things like religion,race,favorite foods etc.

No actually it does not.  Not in america.  We can justify ANYTHING here!  If the guv says its ok then we need question no further that the right moral decisions have been made!

I don`t care what McVeigh`s religion was or Rudolph`s or bin-laden`s or the cocksuker in Norway`s or any cocksuker`s theological beliefs or there political leanings.They are killers and criminals and should be treated as such.No more no less.

Focusing on those aspects seems kinds dumb and mis-guided.

While you cons were telling us to target brown people w/ Arabie sounding names,rational folks were saying that terrorists aren`t always going to be so stereo-typical.That racial profiling is not only wrong but useless as well.

The cocksucker in my OP would have passed through the right`s version homeland security while holding up the darker skinned,middle eastern looking innocent good guys



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lm0FuwlLVo&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inOHOZlDBVA

The biggest ass of them all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yXXFLi4FQ


Thanks cons, for nothing but bigotry dressed as concern for our safety.





Everything in the news is koolaid




MrRodgers -> RE: Another Domestic Terrorist (7/29/2011 9:46:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

LEFT WING TERRORIST!  LEFT WING TERRORIST!

Somebody who believes he's losing touch or his ties with and to his Islamic (fascist) side or roots...is a left winger ? That's a hoot. The violent or would be...are all right wing and is the distinguishing feature. The only thing important is that [he] remains the constant world-wide enemy.

No, not a person, not a country no...it's Terrorism !! You see terrorism is the ultimate enemy. You can't describe him, you can't see him, you can't just send in your armies to defeat him...not this enemy. Your enemy is a tactic, not a thing. That's why I suspect all of these reports and every detail. Nothing gets out that the govt. doesn't want to get out.

Terrorism is the enemy that keeps on giving. It gives you cause, cause to fear, cause to lose your civil liberties, cause to soon turn on your neighbors. It is a war, a never-ending, very profitable war. You see, what better than this war, perpetually on-guard, perpetually costing more, both in treasure and in freedoms ?

As has been said and correctly so. If the story is written upon the fall of America...we ourselves will be it author.




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