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Iamsemisweet -> Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 3:43:13 PM)

According to Newt, child labor laws are stupid.  Furthermore, it doesn't matter, because poor kids don't work unless it is illegal:

DES MOINES, Iowa - After saying recently that child labor laws are "truly stupid," Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Thursday told an Iowa audience that children in poor neighborhoods have "no habits of working" nor getting paid for their endeavors "unless it's illegal." "Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works," the former House speaker said at a campaign event at the Nationwide Insurance offices. "So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of 'I do this and you give me cash,' unless it's illegal." Gingrich lately has been unspooling an urban policy, beginning with his comments at Harvard University last month when he discussed child labor laws. "It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods," Gingrich said then, "entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid." Children in poor neighborhoods, he said, should be allowed to serve as janitors in their schools to earn money and develop a connection to the school. Child labor laws were adopted in the early part of the 20th century in response to widespread abuses in factories, where children were forced to work long hours for cheap wages. Groups like the National Child Labor Committee sprang up, and their efforts eventually culminated in adoption of free public education for all children and passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which set federal standards for child labor. Gingrich suggested that present laws are too rigid. "You have a very poor neighborhood. You have kids who are required under law to go to school," he said. "They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit at the clerical office and greet people when they came in? What if you paid them to work as the assistant librarian? And I'd pay them as early as is reasonable and practical," he said. "I am prepared to find something that works, that breaks us out of the cycles we're involved in right now, and finding a way for poor children to learn how to work and learning how to have money that they've earned honestly is an integral part of that," Gingrich told about 400 people, mostly employees, in the Nationwide cafeteria. Also at the event, he became the second GOP presidential candidate to sign a pledge declaring support for the construction of a fence along the entire U.S. border with Mexico by the end of 2013. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has also signed the document by a group called Americans for Securing the Borders. "We will have absolute control of the border," Gingrich said, adding that as president he would suspend federal regulations that get in the way and would divert half of 23,000 homeland security employees in the Washington area to the Southern border.




BanthaSamantha -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:25:33 PM)

For one, Gingrich's position is built upon particularly invidious stereotypes.

Secondly, his proposal here is particularly invasive and departs drastically from mainstream conservative thought. He's basically saying that the parents of poor children are bad parents, and that the government should step in to make policies that teach these kids what a good parent would have taught them. In other words: if parents aren't going to teach their kids to be hard workers, the government will do it.




imperatrixx -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:26:00 PM)

Kids who serve as lookouts for drug dealers do earn their money honestly.

Just not legally.

I lack patience for people like Gingrich who can't tell the difference.

Also I support child labor laws. I don't see why he wants to imitate the social structures of third world countries.




Lucylastic -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:39:49 PM)

he is pandering to the funny mentalists and hard core social conservatives




tazzygirl -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:42:23 PM)

Its how he was raised... how I was raised. What he neglects to realize is that the jobs he and I held in our youth have been taken by grown men and women who need to make a living in this fucked up economy he and his cronies helped to create.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:45:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

Kids who serve as lookouts for drug dealers do earn their money honestly.

Just not legally.

I lack patience for people like Gingrich who can't tell the difference.



You must be joking. If you arent you cant tell the difference between gibberish and making sense.




BanthaSamantha -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:50:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

Kids who serve as lookouts for drug dealers do earn their money honestly.

Just not legally.

I lack patience for people like Gingrich who can't tell the difference.



You must be joking. If you arent you cant tell the difference between gibberish and making sense.


Kids that work hard on their family farm selling raw milk earn their money honestly.

Just not legally.






imperatrixx -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:50:40 PM)

^What she said.




ArizonaBossMan -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:52:21 PM)

adam carolla is my new fucking ass douche hero. He's talking to you leftists... right at you. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/adam-carolla-breaks-down-occupy-movement-fking-self-entitled-monsters/#ooid=s4a2UzMzpXPJ0udzH1lN5S-7jxLaI_Sw




Lucylastic -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:54:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

adam carolla is my new fucking ass douche hero. He's talking to you leftists... right at you. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/adam-carolla-breaks-down-occupy-movement-fking-self-entitled-monsters/#ooid=s4a2UzMzpXPJ0udzH1lN5S-7jxLaI_Sw



you have an ass douche hero??
how speshul
what a cute story




imperatrixx -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 4:56:31 PM)

Well how can you learn to be an ass douche without a proper role model?




Masta808 -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 5:05:54 PM)

If gets the kids off my lawn I m all for it.




Lucylastic -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 5:08:36 PM)

I would think THAT would keep the grass off your lawn




Masta808 -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 5:33:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I would think THAT would keep the grass off your lawn



You cant yell at the grass to get off your lawn. They dont have any ears.




Lucylastic -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 5:53:16 PM)

no that would be wheat ..its a grass, but not much good on a lawn
Pst I think someone who has his very own " fucking ass douche hero" shouldnt be posting about how funny libs are




MissAsylum -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 5:59:41 PM)

"We created a bunch of self-entitled monsters."

Hey right wingers and conservatives.....he talking about you.[8|]

Its all your fault.





Winterapple -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 7:24:59 PM)

Conservatives are nostalgic by nature.
Thoughts of the good ole Triangle Shirt
factory days make them misty eyed.
Why doesn't he encourage people to
open businesses in disadvantaged
neighborhoods and pledge to hire locally?
Ben and Jerry's has done this in NY and DC.
But half baked reactionary shit goes down
better with his crowd.
And he's the Republicans resident "intellectual".






Masta808 -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 8:19:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

no that would be wheat ..its a grass, but not much good on a lawn
Pst I think someone who has his very own " fucking ass douche hero" shouldnt be posting about how funny libs are


Well either case, kids are sponges of society. They ask so much and give nothing back in return. Why should they have the freedom to be children? No lets chain them to the factories, force them to work for a living. Lets make their lives as fucking miserable as hell so when they grow up they can be respectable adults. Its not like our past lawmakers fought against child labor laws to provide a safe haven for children to grow and be happy or because of the dangers and damage cause the maltreatment of child workers. Hell Newt should tell them to join the military, so they can protect the freedoms they may never get to enjoy.

ps. yeah well read my sig. Its why I do what I do.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 9:58:42 PM)

Biggest problem with his statements are they are basically incorrect. He says "pay them as early as is reasonable and practical." Well, the laws have decided that 14 is reasonable and able. At that age, children are able to get working papers and get a part time job. Granted, few places are going to hire them, but they are able to work.

I think that pinpointing the poor is utter stupidity, but the fact of the matter is that kids today DON'T have any work ethic. They DON'T want to have to put in any effort to earn money, but instead think things should be handed to them.

When I (and many other here) were kids, you could get a paper route. You didn't make a lot of money, but you got pocket change. That isn't possible now. Kids used to make some money mowing the neighbor's lawns, raking leaves, shoveling snow. Now if you suggest to a lot of kids that they go door to door asking people if they want their driveway shoveled, they can't be bothered.

Last year in NJ, we had some really bad storms. Bad enough my son and his friends knew school was going to be cancelled the next day. We had already received phone calls. Alarms were set and they were out the door by 5:30 in the morning going door to door catching the people who still needed to get to work. They busted their asses all day, and they made money. All they had were shovels. No snow blowers, no plows (they didn't drive anyway). Then they got together and got a used snow blower and one of the kids who drove had a pick up and they still did the same thing, but made it easier on themselves. They were mostly 16.

My son went to a nearby restaurant at 14 and bugged them until they gave him a job bussing tables. Yes, he was paid off the books, but it was a legitimate job. The first time he got "paid" for bussing tables, he was eight years old. I was waiting tables on the weekends and had sitter issues, so he had to come with me. No one made him do it, he was bored. But the diners got a kick out of this little boy politely asking to clear their dishes and the waitresses gave him a couple bucks. Hell, one of the diners did, too.

We were poor as church mice, so the idea that poor kids don't want to work a legitimate job is a crock of shit.

Honestly, he might as well have said what he was really thinking, "black kids in the projects only want to deal drugs and join gangs." Still a crock of shit, but at least he would have been being honest about his thoughts.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids. (12/1/2011 10:21:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Newt seems to hate kids, especially poor kids.



What a fucking stupid comment. [8|]





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