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UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 11:43:13 AM   
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UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements

14 UN Security Council members vote in favour as US abstains in demanding Israel halt settlements on Palestinian land.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/passes-resolution-israeli-settlements-161223192709807.html

The resolution was put forward at the 15-member council for a vote on Friday by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela and Senegal a day after Egypt withdrew it under pressure from Israel and US president-elect Donald Trump.

Israel and Trump had called on the United States to veto the measure.

So much for leadership.



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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 12:51:35 PM   
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Oh, it's leadership. It's just leadership in a different direction than the Pablum©-puking, Islam-loving, socialist-leaning leftards of Europe and the Middle East would have us go.

Elections have consequences.



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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 1:15:25 PM   
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You know, I remember Obama stressing that Bush was still the President.

Trump isn't even president-elect yet officially until the House counts the EC votes Jan. 6 (right date?).

Fuck him.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 1:26:05 PM   
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Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 5:50:34 PM   
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Israel has been upping the building of settlements, deliberately making the conflict worse.

Not surprising that at some point they lose support for that.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 7:43:32 PM   
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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 7:51:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West


Israel is not an ally.

T^T

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 7:53:16 PM   
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quote:

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Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West


Israel is not an ally.

T^T


Really? What are they?

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/23/2016 10:33:36 PM   
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Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news.

The settlements/colonies are a flagrant breach of the Geneva Conventions and recognised as such by just about every Govt in the world (bar of course the Israeli Govt). IOW the settlements/colonies are war crimes. Unambiguously.

How is declining to veto a UNSC resolution condemning these war crimes "back stabb[ing] our best ally in the region"??? Is it US policy to promote war crimes? Are Israeli war crimes of no consequence to Americans?

How does the US Govt expect the rest of the world to take it's promotion of human rights seriously if it connives and conspires with Israel in the commission of war crimes, and provides diplomatic cover to ensure Israel escapes having to suffer the consequences of its innumerable war crimes?

If, for some reason, you do have to stab someone in the back, a war criminal is a very worthy focus of your attentions - so the Israelis can hardly complain.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 3:12:19 AM   
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"If, for some reason, you do have to stab someone in the back, a war criminal is a very worthy focus of your attentions"

I know the issue is no joking matter, but that was funny.


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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 3:31:13 AM   
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Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West


It's a new day.

Obama supposedly trying to wage WW III against Russia (as asserted by goobers), bad.

Trump trying to wage WW III against the third largest importer of US goods (cheer led by same goobers), good.

Wake up, sunshine.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 8:01:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You know, I remember Obama stressing that Bush was still the President.

Trump isn't even president-elect yet officially until the House counts the EC votes Jan. 6 (right date?).

Fuck him.



And I remember ol' Dumbo Ears, just recently, saying that if he felt the need to speak out, in the future, he would.

I also remember a long-standing tradition of "lame duck" presidents to not initiate new U.S. Policy after a new president has been selected.

Since you mentioned 06 Jan.: Do you really expect a republican house or senate to reject the results of the 19 DEC EC vote? No? Then President-Elect Trump WILL be president on 20 JAN and ol' "God-Damn-America-Quasi-Muslim" shithead is doing everything he can to completely entangle President Trump beforehand.

Fuck Obummer.



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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 8:05:41 AM   
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I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for the Republicans, their cuntbubble elect, or their supporters over this. Maybe Obama would have been a bit less inclined to shit in his desk on his way out of the office if the Repukes hadn't spent the last eight years blocking everything he tried to do, but their supporters bitching about this now is hilariously pathetic.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 8:09:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West


Israel is not an ally.

T^T


Really? What are they?


Invaders. Usurpers. Land grabbers. Delusional chosen people of the god of Abraham. Suppressors. As bad now as the Afrikaners were back in the day. Apartheid managers. Oppressors. Richer by $30 Billion of American military aid this year alone. Attackers on the USS Liberty. Of course I am speaking mainly of Bibi and his RW theocratic thugs.

Did I omit anything? They surely have done no allied thingy for us.

It was good to see Obama exercise moral judgment and courage.

Unlike Trump (Putin's bitch and now Bibi's bitch . . . what a slut!)

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 8:22:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You know, I remember Obama stressing that Bush was still the President.

Trump isn't even president-elect yet officially until the House counts the EC votes Jan. 6 (right date?).

Fuck him.



And I remember ol' Dumbo Ears, just recently, saying that if he felt the need to speak out, in the future, he would.

I also remember a long-standing tradition of "lame duck" presidents to not initiate new U.S. Policy after a new president has been selected.

Since you mentioned 06 Jan.: Do you really expect a republican house or senate to reject the results of the 19 DEC EC vote? No? Then President-Elect Trump WILL be president on 20 JAN and ol' "God-Damn-America-Quasi-Muslim" shithead is doing everything he can to completely entangle President Trump beforehand.

Fuck Obummer.



Michael



I remember so many alt left tools posting for the past year plus that everyone needs to get used to saying "President Hillary Clinton"
because of the fake news polls they fell for

Now that the Soros / NPR fake news polls have been totally debunked they're screaming insanity like, "IT ISNT OFFICIAL"

Highly entertaining

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/24/2016 12:16:17 PM   
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I remember so many alt left tools ...


Which is like saying "I remember so many flying frogs" or "I remember so many walking whales" or any number of other things that exist in your own head and nowhere else.

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/25/2016 8:19:18 AM   
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UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements
14 UN Security Council members vote in favour as US abstains in demanding Israel halt settlements on Palestinian land.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/passes-resolution-israeli-settlements-161223192709807.html
The resolution was put forward at the 15-member council for a vote on Friday by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela and Senegal a day after Egypt withdrew it under pressure from Israel and US president-elect Donald Trump.
Israel and Trump had called on the United States to veto the measure.
So much for leadership.


Wow. What a bunch of crap.

UNSCR 2334
    quote:

    “The Security Council,

    “Reaffirming its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 446 (1979), 452 (1979), 465 (1980), 476 (1980), 478 (1980), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003), and 1850 (2008),

    “Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and reaffirming, inter alia, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force,

    “Reaffirming the obligation of Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, and recalling the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice,

    “Condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions,

    “Expressing grave concern that continuing Israeli settlement activities are dangerously imperilling the viability of the two-State solution based on the 1967 lines,

    “Recalling the obligation under the Quartet Roadmap, endorsed by its resolution 1515 (2003), for a freeze by Israel of all settlement activity, including “natural growth”, and the dismantlement of all settlement outposts erected since March 2001,

    “Recalling also the obligation under the Quartet roadmap for the Palestinian Authority Security Forces to maintain effective operations aimed at confronting all those engaged in terror and dismantling terrorist capabilities, including the confiscation of illegal weapons,

    “Condemning all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction,

    “Reiterating its vision of a region where two democratic States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders,

    “Stressing that the status quo is not sustainable and that significant steps, consistent with the transition contemplated by prior agreements, are urgently needed in order to (i) stabilize the situation and to reverse negative trends on the ground, which are steadily eroding the two-State solution and entrenching a one-State reality, and (ii) to create the conditions for successful final status negotiations and for advancing the two-State solution through those negotiations and on the ground,

    “1. Reaffirms that the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;

    “2. Reiterates its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and that it fully respect all of its legal obligations in this regard;

    “3. Underlines that it will not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the parties through negotiations;

    “4. Stresses that the cessation of all Israeli settlement activities is essential for salvaging the two-State solution, and calls for affirmative steps to be taken immediately to reverse the negative trends on the ground that are imperilling the two-State solution;

    “5. Calls upon all States, bearing in mind paragraph 1 of this resolution, to distinguish, in their relevant dealings, between the territory of the State of Israel and the territories occupied since 1967;

    “6. Calls for immediate steps to prevent all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation and destruction, calls for accountability in this regard, and calls for compliance with obligations under international law for the strengthening of ongoing efforts to combat terrorism, including through existing security coordination, and to clearly condemn all acts of terrorism;

    “7. Calls upon both parties to act on the basis of international law, including international humanitarian law, and their previous agreements and obligations, to observe calm and restraint, and to refrain from provocative actions, incitement and inflammatory rhetoric, with the aim, inter alia, of de-escalating the situation on the ground, rebuilding trust and confidence, demonstrating through policies and actions a genuine commitment to the two-State solution, and creating the conditions necessary for promoting peace;

    “8. Calls upon all parties to continue, in the interest of the promotion of peace and security, to exert collective efforts to launch credible negotiations on all final status issues in the Middle East peace process and within the time frame specified by the Quartet in its statement of 21 September 2010;

    “9. Urges in this regard the intensification and acceleration of international and regional diplomatic efforts and support aimed at achieving, without delay a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East on the basis of the relevant United Nations resolutions, the Madrid terms of reference, including the principle of land for peace, the Arab Peace Initiative and the Quartet Roadmap and an end to the Israeli occupation that began in 1967; and underscores in this regard the importance of the ongoing efforts to advance the Arab Peace Initiative, the initiative of France for the convening of an international peace conference, the recent efforts of the Quartet, as well as the efforts of Egypt and the Russian Federation;

    “10. Confirms its determination to support the parties throughout the negotiations and in the implementation of an agreement;

    “11. Reaffirms its determination to examine practical ways and means to secure the full implementation of its relevant resolutions;

    “12. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council every three months on the implementation of the provisions of the present resolution;

    “13. Decides to remain seized of the matter.”


This is just too stupid. Essentially, this is nothing more than finger-wagging and mean looks. In other words, much ado about nothing. People who are all for this need to read it and really look to see if anything is going to be done. The answer: No. It's like a parent telling his two kids to "play nice" without any threat of consequences.

Typical. One has to wonder if it had consequences, if it would have been enforced anyway. The UN is so inept.


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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/25/2016 9:07:06 AM   
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Argh I am pirate, all lands are mine, shiver me timbers - tavern wenches welcome

heh who remembers Captain Pugwash? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XIIO-fyUEw

and who can forget Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/564770.Maps_of_the_Ancient_Sea_Kings

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/25/2016 10:54:13 AM   
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Obama back stabbed our best ally in the region? How is this news. That's like saying BREAKING NEWS, the sun came up in the East this morning and is expected to set in the West

Don't worry...don't worry. Obama has the situation in hand. Why else would he be able to vacation.




http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/24/obama-sacked-consulate-and-dead-ambassador-bumps-in-the-road/

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/aleppo-american-decline-article-1.2920663


The fall of Aleppo just weeks before Barack Obama leaves office is a fitting stamp on his Middle East policy of retreat and withdrawal. The pitiable pictures from the devastated city showed the true cost of Obama’s abdication. For which he seems to have few regrets, however. In his end-of-year news conference, Obama defended U.S. inaction with his familiar false choice: it was either stand aside or order a massive Iraq-style ground invasion.

This is a transparent fiction designed to stifle debate. Five years ago, the popular uprising was ascendant. What kept a rough equilibrium was regime control of the skies. At that point, the U.S., at little risk and cost, could have declared Syria a no-fly zone, much as it did Iraqi Kurdistan for a dozen years after the Gulf War of 1991.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamas-disgraceful-and-harmful-legacy-on-israel/article/2006041#!

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RE: UN passes resolution on ending Israeli settlements - 12/25/2016 11:49:49 AM   
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Are we supposed to think it's okay for Israel to build on the West Bank? I thought that belonged to the Palestinians?

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