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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Yes a clear act of domestic terrorism in the US.

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'There is too much anger out there.' Bombing of a Minnesota mosque leaves Muslims concerned

Terror tore through a suburban Minneapolis community on Saturday after the bombing of a mosque, amplifying growing concerns among some Muslims who have felt targeted nationwide in recent months.

Law enforcement officials said the explosion occurred around 5 a.m. at the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, Minn., a suburb of Minneapolis. Fire and smoke engulfed much of the red-brick structure, but there were no injuries.

The FBI is leading the ongoing investigation, along with local law enforcement. Authorities say they believe an improvised explosive device — also known as an IED — was to blame for the blast at the mosque, which primarily serves the area’s large Somali community.

Mohamed Omar, who has been executive director of the mosque for two years, said Saturday that he was relieved no one was hurt.

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But since it was a Muslim community center targeted, there is no reason for anyone to be overly concerned, I mean it is not like it Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics or Methodists were targeted.

Maybe we should find out who did this before we decide who to condemn.

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You are a liar. There is no credible evidence that any crimes against Muslims or any other group (except perhaps conservatives) have risen. Even this case hasn't been called a hate crime, or been linked to any group. MOST crimes like this turn out to be committed by someone from the group that reported it, that has turned out to be the case time and time again

Leave it to a moron like you to convict without evidence. It was more likely an accident in a "vest" making class. The FBI doesn't know if the blast caused the window to break, or if it broke when something was thrown through it

And again, try building a church or a temple or a synagogue from any non-Muslim religion in a Muslim country. Odds are that the "hate crime" against the group behind constructing it will either be committed by the Muslim government there, or fully sanctioned by it

Here, Muslim groups openly practicing their cultish political and militaristic ideology while surrounded by hundreds of millions of white guys with guns, are for the most part perfectly safe.

Many, not all , of the claims of anti Muslims have been false.

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Muslims are surrounded by 300 million white guys or whatever, and one Mosque has one room messed up one time and it's the end of the world

Face it, Muslims are so much safer here openly practicing their religion than any active Christian or Jew or Hindu would be in practically every major Muslim country, where building churches or importing bibles is forbidden, and converting a Muslim from Islam warrants the death penalty for all involved FROM THE STATE

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But since it was a Muslim community center targeted, there is no reason for anyone to be overly concerned, I mean it is not like it Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics or Methodists were targeted.

no one really thinks that. so what does that make you?

I beg to disagree, hate crimes against Muslim Americans have risen dramatically since the election of Donald Trump, almost reaching the numbers in the two years immediately after 9/11.

By the same token, it is must also be noted that the rate of cases involving crimes against Muslim Americans being solvedis lower than those against other ethnic groups, as noted in a report to the Senate Judiciary committee in May.

This means either 1) local authorities are not trying to solve them, or 2) the people committing these crimes are damn good at covering up the evidence.

The current anti Muslim rhetoric coming out of the white house and some of the more extreme right wing media sources does not help the situation.

Bosco, as far as referring to Islam as a cult, it is just one more way of diminishing a large percentage of the population on the planet. I would also point out that Judaism has often been referred to as a cult in anti Semitic writings and rhetoric, and I am sure that you do not wish to be classed with those groups or individuals.

I also suggest you do a bit of research on the Jewish groups that used the same tactics against the Palestinians and Arabs as well as the British prior to the formation of the State of Israel.

As far as the US being targeted, it must be admitted that Americans and US holdings did not become targets of terrorist acts until the US started retaliation strikes in response to terrorist attacks on Israel, further more, the frequency of attacks against the US increased after the first gulf war when US military units were stationed in Saudi Arabia in preparation for the liberation of Kuwait, and did not actually start until after it became clear that the US was going to maintain units near the Muslim holy city of Mecca.

But let me ask you one question:

If the US supports a country that has illegally occupied territory and, even after the international community condemned the practice of evicting the residents of those territories to build settlements strictly for those of one religion, would you not consider the US suspect?

Lets carry that a bit further.

The US condemned South Africa for Apartheid to the point of trade embargoes, trade sanctions, where the small minority of whites controlled the government and did not give even basic rights to the majority of native Africans, yet in Israel, the Jewish population is not the overwhelming majority and in the occupied territories, are actually the minority.

Yet the only thing that the US or any other western nation does is nothing more than public condemnation of the clearly ethnically motivated practices.

Sorry, but the double standard the US government uses in actions against countries committing human rights violations is a large part of the motivation for us being targets.

Bottom line, any group that feels that they are unfairly targeted is going to react, and in the case of the Muslims, it is a relatively small majority that have embraced religious extremism to justify cold blooded mass murder.

Contrary to popular right wing belief, Muslims in America do not want us to switch to Sharia law, there is no movement for such a switch, and the religious courts conducted by Muslims in the US are no different than the religious courts conducted by Hasidic and Orthodox Jewish communities, neither of which has any weight under US civic and criminal law, and neither religious court system ruling is binding outside the community.

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What the fuck does any of that have to do with the topic?

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You are a liar. There is no credible evidence that any crimes against Muslims or any other group (except perhaps conservatives) have risen. Even this case hasn't been called a hate crime, or been linked to any group. MOST crimes like this turn out to be committed by someone from the group that reported it, that has turned out to be the case time and time again

Leave it to a moron like you to convict without evidence. It was more likely an accident in a "vest" making class. The FBI doesn't know if the blast caused the window to break, or if it broke when something was thrown through it

And again, try building a church or a temple or a synagogue from any non-Muslim religion in a Muslim country. Odds are that the "hate crime" against the group behind constructing it will either be committed by the Muslim government there, or fully sanctioned by it

Here, Muslim groups openly practicing their cultish political and militaristic ideology while surrounded by hundreds of millions of white guys with guns, are for the most part perfectly safe.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


You are a liar. There is no credible evidence that any crimes against Muslims or any other group (except perhaps conservatives) have risen. Even this case hasn't been called a hate crime, or been linked to any group. MOST crimes like this turn out to be committed by someone from the group that reported it, that has turned out to be the case time and time again

Leave it to a moron like you to convict without evidence. It was more likely an accident in a "vest" making class. The FBI doesn't know if the blast caused the window to break, or if it broke when something was thrown through it

And again, try building a church or a temple or a synagogue from any non-Muslim religion in a Muslim country. Odds are that the "hate crime" against the group behind constructing it will either be committed by the Muslim government there, or fully sanctioned by it

Here, Muslim groups openly practicing their cultish political and militaristic ideology while surrounded by hundreds of millions of white guys with guns, are for the most part perfectly safe.

Google is your friend:

HERE

HERE

HERE

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

There is no question that Muslims are safer here. In fact, Americans are also much safer here and in fact...more Americans die from peanut poisoning than by domestic terrorism.

You are supposed to scared and scared enough to spend 60 times more $$ on preventing those deaths than we spend on fatal allergic reactions.

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You are a liar. There is no credible evidence that any crimes against Muslims or any other group (except perhaps conservatives) have risen. Even this case hasn't been called a hate crime, or been linked to any group. MOST crimes like this turn out to be committed by someone from the group that reported it, that has turned out to be the case time and time again

Leave it to a moron like you to convict without evidence. It was more likely an accident in a "vest" making class. The FBI doesn't know if the blast caused the window to break, or if it broke when something was thrown through it

And again, try building a church or a temple or a synagogue from any non-Muslim religion in a Muslim country. Odds are that the "hate crime" against the group behind constructing it will either be committed by the Muslim government there, or fully sanctioned by it

Here, Muslim groups openly practicing their cultish political and militaristic ideology while surrounded by hundreds of millions of white guys with guns, are for the most part perfectly safe.

Google is your friend:

HERE

HERE

HERE

From your first link:

"A long-anticipated report from a prominent Muslim-American civil rights organization..."

Uh huh

No screaming insane clownish bias there...

No need to click any further. You are all loons, every one of you far left howlers

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


You are a liar. There is no credible evidence that any crimes against Muslims or any other group (except perhaps conservatives) have risen. Even this case hasn't been called a hate crime, or been linked to any group. MOST crimes like this turn out to be committed by someone from the group that reported it, that has turned out to be the case time and time again

Leave it to a moron like you to convict without evidence. It was more likely an accident in a "vest" making class. The FBI doesn't know if the blast caused the window to break, or if it broke when something was thrown through it

And again, try building a church or a temple or a synagogue from any non-Muslim religion in a Muslim country. Odds are that the "hate crime" against the group behind constructing it will either be committed by the Muslim government there, or fully sanctioned by it

Here, Muslim groups openly practicing their cultish political and militaristic ideology while surrounded by hundreds of millions of white guys with guns, are for the most part perfectly safe.

Google is your friend:

HERE

HERE

HERE

From your first link:

"A long-anticipated report from a prominent Muslim-American civil rights organization..."

Uh huh

No screaming insane clownish bias there...

I wrote "credible evidence."

Credible.

Look the word up and grab your first ever clue

No need to click any further. You are all loons, every one of you far left howlers

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

No, you just choose who to use or reference according to your own political prejudices.

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Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.

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Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.

How does that relate to a bombing in Minnesota? Are you suggesting it was done by Christians angry over the treatment of Christians in Saudi Arabia?

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Show me the FBI data, that they say exists. Odds are 99.999% those are reports and unsubstantiated allegations from howlers who hate Trump, rather than verified "hate crimes"