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By David Powers

Ok, so this got long and worse still, it got sincere. Read it or don't read it, that's your choice but I will speak my mind.

Say what you like, call me all the tedious names you like, I like Donald Trump and admire what he is trying to achieve.

With foes to his Left and Right, and virtually the entire corporate media on his back, he is desperately trying to reverse America's chronic decline.

So I have not a word of criticism for him. Sure he makes gaffes, but In truth, his gaffes are not a bit worse than anyone elses.

And sure he's inexperienced and unpolished, but hell, how many slick fork-tongued career politicians have screwed us over in the past?

Even if he had lost the election I would have tipped my hat to him for even trying.

Because “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood…and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”

But he didn't lose. In fact, as every media contrived scandal faded into air, when he ignored it, and every doom mongering poll turned out to be bogus, it took the combined efforts of the entire media elite and over a billion special interest dollars to even hold him to a tight race.

But for what? He already had everything we all dream of. That's right. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn. Donald Trump turned his back on endless, unlimited fame, wealth, hedonism, luxury and peace.

Cincinnatus left a plow, not a throne.

Geez, 70 years old and taking 15 months of endless hate and countless death threats, to take a chance at 8 years more! Eight years of every day, from every side, being under unremitting, vicious and downright depraved attack.

His name, his family, his company, his legacy, his health, his pride, his history; his life-both his social and literal life, all of it, thrown on the altar.

All of it gathered up into one giant heap and pushed fearlessly into the middle of the table. Not for fame or wealth or comfort, which he already had in abundance, but because he loves this rotten shell of failing dreams we call America.

Because he, unlike so many Americans today, still loves the country that gave his family everything. Loves it enough to pledge his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor to fight for her in her terrible peril.

Be as alpha as you like. Be as silver tongued and fearless as you like. Any of us, anyone else among us, would have long since buckled.

But he hasn't buckled. Far from it. He is continuing to doggedly fight an intransigent Democrat Party, a Liberal-infested Republican Party and a rabidly hostile corporate media, all out to destroy him for their own self-interest.

So I dont care if he ain’t couth. I dont care if he had every wife in Christendom, or missteps ten times or ten thousand times, or doesnt hand me every policy I love on a golden platter.

The more I think of it, the more it moves me. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn.

There's a story, about Washington. After the war, with no money coming, a number of officers started the Newburgh Conspiracy-plotting a coup. Fascinating stuff, but the gist is this. Washington found out, and went to address them.

He gave a speech-great, beautiful speech-to little effect. In a last attempt, he pulled out a letter from a congressman promising (again) money. Started to read it, and faltered.

He took out his glasses. Something almost none of them had seen him wear. And said: "Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown grey but almost blind in the service of my country.”

From anyone else, almost any other man in history that would be grotesque pandering. But Washington was really everything they say he is. And his men, these tough bàstards from Saratoga and Valley Forge, wept. The conspiracy ended.

Call me naive. Call me glory-struck, blind, a sycophant and a fool. I don't care. I never thought Id see a leader like that. I never thought they’d make another. That’s how I feel about Donald From the By God Celebrity Apprentice Trump.

Because, the terrible, terrifying truth is for the second time, for all the warts and wives, we got another man that goddamned GOOD.

A man far, far better than we deserve. Hell, after decades of failure, neglect, tomfoolery and greed, we deserve to get exactly what they say he is. Every filthy lie, every depraved fantasy of the sniveling cowards we call fellow citizens would have been our due.

But by the grace of God, this dying remnant of our gangrenous nation flipped one last card. And it came up a Trump.

And so I'm with him. If he wants me to go to Valley Forge or hell, I’m with him.

And even if he fails, I know that he'll have given it his all. I'll know that all the costs he’ll bear. I'll know that he'll have suffered terribly in one last great attempt to cut a path for us out of the wilderness.

So sneer all you like, laugh all you like, name call all you like, your personal insults are merely sweets for children and bother me not one jot.

Because I'm with him. I'm with him to the end. Be it the bitter end or the glorious end, I'm with him...

I'M WITH HIM ALL THE GOD DAMNED WAY!

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I was reading an article on RealClearPolitics by Pat Buchanan, and came across this post in the comments.

I think it sums up a lot of reasons for Trump's resilience with his base, which seems to utterly dumbfound many of the political elite and the leftists.

quote:


By David Powers

Ok, so this got long and worse still, it got sincere. Read it or don't read it, that's your choice but I will speak my mind.

Say what you like, call me all the tedious names you like, I like Donald Trump and admire what he is trying to achieve.

With foes to his Left and Right, and virtually the entire corporate media on his back, he is desperately trying to reverse America's chronic decline.

So I have not a word of criticism for him. Sure he makes gaffes, but In truth, his gaffes are not a bit worse than anyone elses.

And sure he's inexperienced and unpolished, but hell, how many slick fork-tongued career politicians have screwed us over in the past?

Even if he had lost the election I would have tipped my hat to him for even trying.

Because “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood…and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”

But he didn't lose. In fact, as every media contrived scandal faded into air, when he ignored it, and every doom mongering poll turned out to be bogus, it took the combined efforts of the entire media elite and over a billion special interest dollars to even hold him to a tight race.

But for what? He already had everything we all dream of. That's right. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn. Donald Trump turned his back on endless, unlimited fame, wealth, hedonism, luxury and peace.

Cincinnatus left a plow, not a throne.

Geez, 70 years old and taking 15 months of endless hate and countless death threats, to take a chance at 8 years more! Eight years of every day, from every side, being under unremitting, vicious and downright depraved attack.

His name, his family, his company, his legacy, his health, his pride, his history; his life-both his social and literal life, all of it, thrown on the altar.

All of it gathered up into one giant heap and pushed fearlessly into the middle of the table. Not for fame or wealth or comfort, which he already had in abundance, but because he loves this rotten shell of failing dreams we call America.

Because he, unlike so many Americans today, still loves the country that gave his family everything. Loves it enough to pledge his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor to fight for her in her terrible peril.

Be as alpha as you like. Be as silver tongued and fearless as you like. Any of us, anyone else among us, would have long since buckled.

But he hasn't buckled. Far from it. He is continuing to doggedly fight an intransigent Democrat Party, a Liberal-infested Republican Party and a rabidly hostile corporate media, all out to destroy him for their own self-interest.

So I dont care if he ain’t couth. I dont care if he had every wife in Christendom, or missteps ten times or ten thousand times, or doesnt hand me every policy I love on a golden platter.

The more I think of it, the more it moves me. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn.

There's a story, about Washington. After the war, with no money coming, a number of officers started the Newburgh Conspiracy-plotting a coup. Fascinating stuff, but the gist is this. Washington found out, and went to address them.

He gave a speech-great, beautiful speech-to little effect. In a last attempt, he pulled out a letter from a congressman promising (again) money. Started to read it, and faltered.

He took out his glasses. Something almost none of them had seen him wear. And said: "Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown grey but almost blind in the service of my country.”

From anyone else, almost any other man in history that would be grotesque pandering. But Washington was really everything they say he is. And his men, these tough bàstards from Saratoga and Valley Forge, wept. The conspiracy ended.

Call me naive. Call me glory-struck, blind, a sycophant and a fool. I don't care. I never thought Id see a leader like that. I never thought they’d make another. That’s how I feel about Donald From the By God Celebrity Apprentice Trump.

Because, the terrible, terrifying truth is for the second time, for all the warts and wives, we got another man that goddamned GOOD.

A man far, far better than we deserve. Hell, after decades of failure, neglect, tomfoolery and greed, we deserve to get exactly what they say he is. Every filthy lie, every depraved fantasy of the sniveling cowards we call fellow citizens would have been our due.

But by the grace of God, this dying remnant of our gangrenous nation flipped one last card. And it came up a Trump.

And so I'm with him. If he wants me to go to Valley Forge or hell, I’m with him.

And even if he fails, I know that he'll have given it his all. I'll know that all the costs he’ll bear. I'll know that he'll have suffered terribly in one last great attempt to cut a path for us out of the wilderness.

So sneer all you like, laugh all you like, name call all you like, your personal insults are merely sweets for children and bother me not one jot.

Because I'm with him. I'm with him to the end. Be it the bitter end or the glorious end, I'm with him...

I'M WITH HIM ALL THE GOD DAMNED WAY!

What do you think?

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Firm, ltns

OK, what is it with Mr Trump?

1. I doubt that he has even read the constitution and he gives a fuck about it even less.

That qualifies him to be a Conservative exactly 0%

2. He has discovered that ignorant people are easy to rile up and mobilize.

That is why he is in his position.

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What do you think?

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1. I doubt that he has even read the constitution and he gives a fuck about it even less.

That qualifies him to be a Conservative exactly 0%

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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What do you think?

Whoever wrote that is an idiot.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


It doesn't matter which non-leftist was elected, in my opinion. They would any of them be smeared this same way. Fat stupid evil genius Nazi Russian Jew KKK bad hair sex pervert who is leading us into Armageddon, or worse

Hitler warmonger working for the military-industrial complex who hates dogs, women, children, minorities, the poor and the handicapped

Either not a real Christian, or he worships with a spaghetti monster cult worse than ISIS and the Taliban blah blah blah

An Islamaphobe, homophobe, xenophobe white nationalist racist...

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Are you part of his base?

Butch

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

- considering the shill site its written on

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

so there sets the stage....... I can agree with the poster, we are all going to hell, ether as a white socialist country which will have hitler in his grave laughing his dead ass off., or communist because putin lets north korea shoot nukes at us long enough to not have enough left to stop Russia from doing the same...

ether way the right wingers on here ought to be happy with the win....right?

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

- considering the shill site its written on

RealClearPolitics is a "shill site"?

What's not a "shill site"? Communist Workers Party USA?

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

so there sets the stage....... I can agree with the poster, we are all going to hell, ether as a white socialist country which will have hitler in his grave laughing his dead ass off., or communist because putin lets north korea shoot nukes at us long enough to not have enough left to stop Russia from doing the same...

ether way the right wingers on here ought to be happy with the win....right?

I'm not sure that your binary options are the only, or even the most likely outcomes.

Personally, I now think any Marxist philosophy is both anti-American and anti-freedom, worthy of opprobrium, at the least. As well, I think that is the general belief of most of Trump's base.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

right..... a website run by pat buchanan isn't a CONservative christian shill site....... [:D] I think u need to go to the hospital and extract that rock that's buried in your head....

I don't know anything about the Communist Workers Party USA

......I wouldn't cite ether RCP or CWP website's as a creditable source for anything.....but u did, and that's what the OP is.....

as for ur last point I'll see who gets blamed for the first public lynching of a person of color if its white socialism who gets to create the anarchy, or the Koreans.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Are you part of his base?

Butch

Yes, Butch, yes I am.

I think a healthy society is one that encompasses both "liberal" and "conservative" values.

Our society has pretty much taken "liberal" all the way over to "fascist" with a strong bent to totalitarian mind-control.

When the "conservative" (really, classical liberal) part of our society attempted to enter the fray of a supposedly open-society as the TEA Party, they were denigrated, ridiculed and lied about.

This lead directly to Trump. Cause-Effect.

If Trump is destroyed by the leftists that control large swaths of our society, then I really do not wish to see what comes next.

And who's fault will it be? No doubt, the leftists will loudly point to any Republican, any classical liberal, any conservative, and true free-thinker.

But from my point of view all they asked was for consideration and were told to sit-down, shut-up, and pay homage to their "betters".

Iconoclasm is the next step along our path to violence and it's not the TEA Party, not Republicans, not classical liberals and not conservatives that are forcing the society along the path to destruction.

I see Trump as the last chance to avert a terrible tragedy.

The Left sees him as just the worst-thing-possible, worthy of immediate and total annihilation.

What he really is, is the fuse, that the left can't help but lighting.

Cause-Effect-Boom.

Firm

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I was reading an article on RealClearPolitics by Pat Buchanan, and came across this post in the comments.

I think it sums up a lot of reasons for Trump's resilience with his base, which seems to utterly dumbfound many of the political elite and the leftists.

quote:


By David Powers

Ok, so this got long and worse still, it got sincere. Read it or don't read it, that's your choice but I will speak my mind.

Say what you like, call me all the tedious names you like, I like Donald Trump and admire what he is trying to achieve.

With foes to his Left and Right, and virtually the entire corporate media on his back, he is desperately trying to reverse America's chronic decline.

So I have not a word of criticism for him. Sure he makes gaffes, but In truth, his gaffes are not a bit worse than anyone elses.

And sure he's inexperienced and unpolished, but hell, how many slick fork-tongued career politicians have screwed us over in the past?

Even if he had lost the election I would have tipped my hat to him for even trying.

Because “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood…and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”

But he didn't lose. In fact, as every media contrived scandal faded into air, when he ignored it, and every doom mongering poll turned out to be bogus, it took the combined efforts of the entire media elite and over a billion special interest dollars to even hold him to a tight race.

But for what? He already had everything we all dream of. That's right. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn. Donald Trump turned his back on endless, unlimited fame, wealth, hedonism, luxury and peace.

Cincinnatus left a plow, not a throne.

Geez, 70 years old and taking 15 months of endless hate and countless death threats, to take a chance at 8 years more! Eight years of every day, from every side, being under unremitting, vicious and downright depraved attack.

His name, his family, his company, his legacy, his health, his pride, his history; his life-both his social and literal life, all of it, thrown on the altar.

All of it gathered up into one giant heap and pushed fearlessly into the middle of the table. Not for fame or wealth or comfort, which he already had in abundance, but because he loves this rotten shell of failing dreams we call America.

Because he, unlike so many Americans today, still loves the country that gave his family everything. Loves it enough to pledge his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor to fight for her in her terrible peril.

Be as alpha as you like. Be as silver tongued and fearless as you like. Any of us, anyone else among us, would have long since buckled.

But he hasn't buckled. Far from it. He is continuing to doggedly fight an intransigent Democrat Party, a Liberal-infested Republican Party and a rabidly hostile corporate media, all out to destroy him for their own self-interest.

So I dont care if he ain’t couth. I dont care if he had every wife in Christendom, or missteps ten times or ten thousand times, or doesnt hand me every policy I love on a golden platter.

The more I think of it, the more it moves me. Laugh if you like. I dont give a damn.

There's a story, about Washington. After the war, with no money coming, a number of officers started the Newburgh Conspiracy-plotting a coup. Fascinating stuff, but the gist is this. Washington found out, and went to address them.

He gave a speech-great, beautiful speech-to little effect. In a last attempt, he pulled out a letter from a congressman promising (again) money. Started to read it, and faltered.

He took out his glasses. Something almost none of them had seen him wear. And said: "Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown grey but almost blind in the service of my country.”

From anyone else, almost any other man in history that would be grotesque pandering. But Washington was really everything they say he is. And his men, these tough bàstards from Saratoga and Valley Forge, wept. The conspiracy ended.

Call me naive. Call me glory-struck, blind, a sycophant and a fool. I don't care. I never thought Id see a leader like that. I never thought they’d make another. That’s how I feel about Donald From the By God Celebrity Apprentice Trump.

Because, the terrible, terrifying truth is for the second time, for all the warts and wives, we got another man that goddamned GOOD.

A man far, far better than we deserve. Hell, after decades of failure, neglect, tomfoolery and greed, we deserve to get exactly what they say he is. Every filthy lie, every depraved fantasy of the sniveling cowards we call fellow citizens would have been our due.

But by the grace of God, this dying remnant of our gangrenous nation flipped one last card. And it came up a Trump.

And so I'm with him. If he wants me to go to Valley Forge or hell, I’m with him.

And even if he fails, I know that he'll have given it his all. I'll know that all the costs he’ll bear. I'll know that he'll have suffered terribly in one last great attempt to cut a path for us out of the wilderness.

So sneer all you like, laugh all you like, name call all you like, your personal insults are merely sweets for children and bother me not one jot.

Because I'm with him. I'm with him to the end. Be it the bitter end or the glorious end, I'm with him...

I'M WITH HIM ALL THE GOD DAMNED WAY!

What do you think?

Firm