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notlooking2 -> RE: Cages (4/14/2007 3:18:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful

Raiken made a comment about cages in the post on anger and sex, and I thought it rated a new thread...such a delicious topic!

I enjoy cages, although I have no idea why, it's kind of an odd thing. I've done the kitty in a cage, at a private house party, and I've done the exotic slave in a cage at The Wet Spot in Seattle. Both great memories.

I'd love to do a scene where I am caged in animal print scanties, and a sign put up "Please feed the animal!". Have people come by offering tidbits through the cage bars while the owner watches over it all...Yummy!

Or hmmm, can you imagine a whole human zoo at a fetish night? What a rush!

Anyone else want to share their thoughts about cages?



I absolutely adore them.  Couldn't exactly tell you why.  I suppose it is another form of being restraint.  What I know for sure, is they are absolutely delicious.



MMMMudd -> RE: Cages (4/14/2007 8:29:46 PM)

Sounds like it could be a really intense experience Sting! I've always thought the whole puppy play thing, taken to a near literal level, a puppy cage, a good diet, a long walk twice a day, no television, and so fourth, would have to make for a person emotionally and physically happier than institutions like prisons or the oubliette we call mental facilities.

Of course from a Dominate's stand point, it would be a huge drain, in energy organizational skills and resource. Thus the submissive would become much healthier on many levels as the dominate, became less so. I hate it when logical conclusions screw up a perfectly good jack off session!

Mudd  



MMMMudd -> RE: Cages (4/14/2007 9:47:33 PM)

I'm' thinking the next cage I build, will involve sheet metal in a way that the sub can't actually see what's going on, but can pretty vaugly hear it, very sculptural very sci fi. Lordy what a sick puppy I am!  I have a whole notebook full of bondage related metal sculpture sketches, and so far I've only built one actual, proper human cage. 

AHHH to be young and beautiful as well a crazy man who loves to weld! personally I'd love to literally be one of my sculptures.

While I know there plenty of people who find me hot, they are a minority, compared to the world at large. An old welder's body on display is always going to be a bit repulsive to society at large, so the stuff  I'd  love to build has to be imagined as a capsule for the beautiful to be blatantly objectified in. Sure I could get some of my stuff (and my ass for that matter) inducted into the dungeon at the various girth and mirth groups I know of, but as an artist I can't help but think of that as some kind of cop out, a sense that I'd be doing it because I can't do any better. This surely would be a disservice to me, my work, and the wonderful clubs.

I find it a wonderful challenge coming up with sculptures for beautiful people with their bodies on display, or edging towards beautiful sculpture that just happens to have a living soul inside it, androgynous, anonymous. So many possibilities, so little time, more sculpture cages than my back yard  will ever hold!

Mudd








littlesarbonn -> RE: Cages (4/14/2007 10:58:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angielouwhos

For being left in a cage, those plastic break away locks work well. That way a slave can be locked up while someone is out and and in an emergency escape.


A major part of the fantasy for me, and she knew that, was not in being kept in a cage with a lock that I could break, but being locked in a cage that I can't get out of at all, that ONLY SHE can allow me to be freed. Yeah, there are all sorts of safety things and people get all torn out of shape about that, but it worked for me, and it worked for her.



selfbnd411 -> RE: Cages (4/14/2007 11:26:55 PM)

I want to learn to weld.  My dad actually has the equipment (both gas and electric), but gas is too pricey and I'm a little phobic when it comes to electricity.  Something about the amount of electrical current required to melt two pieces of steel into one kinda freaks me out!



MMMMudd -> RE: Cages (4/15/2007 12:33:16 AM)

I got to empathise with littlesarbonn here, there's some thing holy about absolutes, that appeals to the soul as well as the genitals. We've nudged at it several times in this thread but essentially the concept that if it doesn't work your fucked is, for a lack of a better word extreme.

Welding, particularly good plate steel, is viceral, the rulees are all hard and the rules absolute. The punishments for breaking these rules are rediculously harsh. I type this little riff out tonight with three fingers blistered, melted essentially for a slight miscalculation in how thick a spacific piece of bar stock was and how long it would stay hot. The play time I spent with a great girl this weekend was alttle bit jaded in that a 140 pound gilr could never generatee the level of pain that crappy peice of plate steel conjured,

I'd highly recamend to anyone, to do what my master did, take a welding class at your local collage. Thick metal is the most harsh dominate ever, and you'll be up to your eyeballs in savory yummy twenty something  boys. Regaurdless of your gender (and procliviies) you'll be a much more heavy duty person for it. Like so many intense SM expeireinces it makes mundane life tragicly mundane.

  mudd



MMMMudd -> RE: Cages (4/15/2007 12:36:42 AM)

I got to empathise with littlesarbonn here, there's some thing holy about absolutes, that appeals to the soul as well as the genitals. We've nudged at it several times in this thread but essentially the concept that if it doesn't work your fucked is, for a lack of a better word extreme.

Welding, particularly good plate steel, is viceral, the rules are all hard and the rules absolute. The punishments for breaking these rules are ridiculously harsh. I type this little riff out tonight with three fingers blistered, melted essentially for a slight miscalculation in how thick a specific piece of bar stock was and how long it would stay hot. The play time I spent with a great girl this weekend was little bit jaded in that a 140 pound girl could never generate the level of pain that crappy piece of plate steel conjured,
I'd highly recommend to anyone, to do what my master did, take a welding class at your local collage. Thick metal is the most harsh dominate ever, and you'll be up to your eyeballs in savory yummy twenty something  boys. Regardless of your gender (and proclivities) you'll be a much more heavy duty person for it. Like so many intense SM experiences it makes mundane life tragically mundane.
mudd



Rafters -> RE: Cages (4/15/2007 4:37:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MMMMudd

Welding, particularly good plate steel, is viceral, the rules are all hard and the rules absolute. The punishments for breaking these rules are ridiculously harsh. I type this little riff out tonight with three fingers blistered, melted essentially for a slight miscalculation in how thick a specific piece of bar stock was and how long it would stay hot. The play time I spent with a great girl this weekend was little bit jaded in that a 140 pound girl could never generate the level of pain that crappy piece of plate steel conjured,


On the bright side, pain is a sign you didn't really screw up and burn through your skin, into the tediously nerveless world of 3rd degree burns. [:D]

Which is always a possibility when you use a blue-white gas jet to push a puddle of red-white molten steel along the join of two seperate steel pieces. By the time the puddle has passed, the two pieces have melted, mixed and fused into one piece.

Done right, a thick join should be stronger than the thinner metal either side.
Done wrong the join is weaker
Done really wrong, you discover the thermodynamic-biological reasons why the smarter medieval inquistitors liked their witches to wear iron chains, not hemp rope to their stake flambe surprise.



Stranger1 -> RE: Cages (4/15/2007 4:42:13 PM)

Objectification can be used in many fun and interesting ways.



dogthing -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 8:39:08 AM)

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Sounds like it could be a really intense experience Sting! I've always thought the whole puppy play thing, taken to a near literal level, a puppy cage, a good diet, a long walk twice a day, no television, and so fourth,


OH yes! :)

A good solid cage is an attitude adjuster, helping the pet to acclimatise to the idea that it's left behind its old identity as a human being. The pet knows that its situation is way beyond anything that could be mistaken for casual vanilla play. It's hardcore and it's real. The pet knows that they must be a real pervert to agree to something like this, and knowing that they are on display like a zoo animal, seeing things from the wrong side of the bars, just reminds them how much of a freak they really are.

For the owner, a cage means a level of almost casual control over their pet. They know that their property is exactly where they left it. Choosing and buying a cage and setting aside a space for it represents a serious investment in thought, money and living space. After going to all that trouble to get a suitable cage, you have to use it regularly don't you? :)



MasterGremlin -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 9:16:00 AM)

This all sounds very interesting and appealing.  Master and I have recently been exploring some puppy play and He had mentioned caging.  I know when He said it my skin flushed because He got that evil grin on His face. 
After reading many of the posts here it has become even more appealing and I am looking forward to trying it.

Cordially,
minxy [:)]



masterdstar -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 12:34:09 PM)

Caging is an important element of training in the sense of Sens-Dep. Most think of that as only removal in form or another but it is also about diminution such as movement restraint separate from simply bondage. It is also a statement after training at least into the beginning of the second year, in which one of the signs of the slave-animal is in fact living as such, just like a litter box or chaining is.
Punishments w/cages are tricky as any piece of "equipment” used for both pleasure and punishment can be very confusing and undermining for the slave.
FWIW I never use the cage as punishment.

Enjoy your wonder-filled day…..still missin’ My lil ole vanilla ice-creame cone.



Tuomas -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 1:32:47 PM)

Ah, cages.

It's interesting the divergence of opinion that people have in terms of a cage and it's use. Underscores that we can't prejudge certain elements.

Anyway, there are lots of cages in movies, and I always hate it when the "hero" comes in to rescue the luscious damsel. Damnit! Why can't you leave her in there longer [>:]. So, yeah, I've some ideas I want to try with cages.



HutchGarahl -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 3:15:34 PM)

Mostly I use a cage for punishment, though I have used them in play a time or two.

Seeing the first part of your name cin, I would say your much to far away, otherwise I would see about an invite. What you wrote is quite tantalizing to me. :)



dogthing -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 3:22:18 PM)

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Anyway, there are lots of cages in movies, and I always hate it when the "hero" comes in to rescue the luscious damsel. Damnit! Why can't you leave her in there longer .
 

There's an episode of "Charmed" where Alyssa Milano is trying to escape from a jail cell, and she goes into full seduction mode, pushes her face hard against the bars and perves at the poor jailor, "You know what I think is really hot? A man in a cage ..."

Wooo.




Tuomas -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 4:07:50 PM)

Wee! I should watch Charmed [:'(]

But the woman should be in the cage [:D]



Aswad -> RE: Cages (4/16/2007 5:09:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sting516

a year ago at this time...there was a plan that i was to be caged for an extended period of time and totally reprogrammed/brainwashed...


I doubt a cage would work well in a total reprogramming / brainwashing context ... sure, you can get some psychedelic results, but I'd think it needs a lot of time and a fair bit of work that isn't amenable to being done in a cage. Note that you should probably explain what you mean by reprogramming / brainwashing, as these can denote a wide range of things ... it has some distinct (albeit ill-defined) connotations that for me fall outside the realm of one or more of safe, sane and consensual, even under ideal circumstances.

edited: yanked lots of stuff about how it can be done



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