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SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:43:47 AM)

popeye: Well I know...my description  of "accomodations" (like it would even be up to me- LOL!). But, I wasn't thinking about punishment, necessarily, when I first wrote this thread. I was kind of delving into inquiring what people use them for. I found out about the display factor, and also Mr. Discipline answered that his submissive wanted one for pretty much the same reasons I seem to find the idea appealing , and that made me feel a bit less weird (because I do feel kind of strange - because I've never done this at all, before. But I am curious about it).

- Susan




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:49:16 AM)

You can get rather large dog cages but they aren't good for long term use. They don't have the room needed for a person to move around. I like to make things that I use personally. It gives me pleasure to make it and greater pleasure to use it.




ShadowMster -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:50:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

I have actually built some that worked on the origional sliding door tracks. They had thin plywood covers, held on by velcro strips. When not in use, they looked like a regular closet.


Perhaps use a pocket door, leaving the original closet door in place.  This way, you could have your "Jail Cell" door on a slide that be closed, and then have the original door as well..  You slave can then be put in his or her cage, and then displayed (pocket door) or in solitary (close the outdoor door).




Homestead -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:53:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ShadowMster

quote:

ORIGINAL: Homestead

I have actually built some that worked on the origional sliding door tracks. They had thin plywood covers, held on by velcro strips. When not in use, they looked like a regular closet.


Perhaps use a pocket door, leaving the original closet door in place.  This way, you could have your "Jail Cell" door on a slide that be closed, and then have the original door as well..  You slave can then be put in his or her cage, and then displayed (pocket door) or in solitary (close the outdoor door).



This was in a rental house. While I appeciate the idea, I just did what worked at the time. The origional doors were put into storage until I moved on. The replacements were given to another Dom, who was a buddy. I gave him my sensation toys when I gave up on physical sadism too-but that's another story.




marieToo -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:55:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am curious about this, both from the point of view of the person doing the caging, and the person being caged. Probably because I don't know much about it, and have never done it.

I understand maybe it's about freedom being restricted in a blatant and possibly severe way, but is there anything going on besides that, for some? Why do you like it, or not like it?

This is probably going to sound a slightly inane, but personally, I kind of like being alone sometimes, in a quiet, serene place. If I could have a good book, and if the cage had enough room for me to turn around and stretch out and sleep in, and I had water and food, and a place to go to the bathroom, and was allowed out for bathing, I might want to stay there for awhile...of course I'd just hate a teensy, cramped cage, (I mean one only slightly larger than my body).
I'd appreciate being able to have a photo, or a picture on the wall, too (seriously) - if I was going to be in there awhile, I think. And maybe some drawing paper and some pencils. I realize this is also used as a punishment - and in that case, I guess not. Maybe this isn't what most people do (probably not)? But - I am really seriously asking what it's used for, mostly - if there is a "common experience" as far as Caging goes, (even loosely). 

Anyone have anything to say about Caging based on personal experience?
Of course, all comments are welcome.

Dominants/Dommes/Masters/Mistresses: Do you use it for a punishment or a reward - or as some kind of conditioning?

If a submissive or a slave: Did you like it or hate it, or do you just think it's in-between, in terms of appeal?

Thanks for any replies.

- Susan  


<cringe> 

I am a claustrophobe, to such a degree that I have to beat it back even when I drive.  I have become very adept at using some very basic mind control techniques to take me out of that place.  Sometimes even in the house it happens, if I let my head go there, but I can talk myself down from it relatively quickley, mostly because I know in a car or a house or a room, I can simply get out if I needed to. 

The idea of 'confinement'  if it can be carried out in a differet manner, Id be ok with; in a place or a room that I know I can get out of if I panicked. Its more the idea of being trapped thats sends me over the edge.  If the cage was a decent size...say the size of a jail cell, and had an unlocked door, I could probably manage that quite well..  But a small locked cage?  I would have to be dead for someone (even someone I was in devoted submission to) to get my body into a locked cage.  In fact, I would sooner be dead than to live through the terror that I would feel. 




Homestead -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 8:57:19 AM)

Not everyone can deal with it marie, no biggie.




TNstepsout -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 9:17:17 AM)

Nope. I'm like Marie. Heck I start to panic if I can't get a necklace unfastened. But it's an interesting thread on an activity I've never been able to get my head around.

Seems we mostly see pics and hear from women in cages. Any male subs out there who like them? Dommes who like to do it? Curious.




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 9:19:47 AM)

I have a fear of heights. if someone really wanted to screw with my head, and get me to panic, all they'd have to do is take me to the roof of a building (even three or four stories would do) and make me look over the edge.

Good points, TN, I think. I wonder how many male submissives like this?

- Susan




gooddogbenji -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 9:24:50 AM)

I'm actually much like LA, in that I always design tiny little living spaces, be it a car, bathroom, or my kitchen, as a home.  Where would I put the bed, the desk, etc....

I love any kind of confinement, and I think I would love to have a little cage where I can go to be at peace, until my Domme needs me again. (I'm not talking about 24/7 caging, but just instead of having a bedroom.....)

And being put on display would just make me feel so.........  *sigh....

Yours,


benji




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 9:26:59 AM)

Thanks for answering, benji.

- Susan




slavejlb -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 9:29:48 AM)

Greetings
You wish to watch this reach inside her true head space, allow her to reach the depth of her nirvana, put her in a straight jacket, and place her in cage. And let her slip away
Be safe and be well
Master Mawgan/slave java  




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:06:53 AM)

slavejlb: Wow, never thought of that. Thanks for replying.

- Susan




Bearlee -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:48:02 AM)

WOW… yet another fun topic! 
 
I used to wonder at cages…WHAT is the fun of locking up your toys?  Sure, I believe in 24/7, but still…when not playing at BDSM, don’t most of us want a partner within their submissive or slave?  Caging was right up there with sleeping on the floor every night; what IS the point in THAT?
 
Then I got caged.  LOL
 
I was at Thunder this year…hanging with some very close friends of mine, when one (a Domme who I adore) asked me ‘Where is your homework”?  Now…in my limited experience (3 years), I have not roll-played; but I caught on fast and replied “My dog peed on it, Maam”.  She laughed and suggested I make sure I have it the next morning, even if I had to re-do the whole thing.  She anticipated the question in my mind about what she expected from me and added “And, do NOT make me repeat myself” 
 
LOL… she is VERY good!
 
Soooooooo…the next morning, I write on a sticky note some silly rhyme…a ‘roses are red…’ sorta thing and presented it to her that evening in the main dungeon.  She was NOT impressed!
 
Now, the evening before I had been taken to the ‘edgy’ dungeon and canned thoroughly by her husband, another Dominant I am close with; my butt was SORE.
 
She tells me to ‘drop’ (to my knees) and follow her.  I crawled rapidly behind her as she regally moved to the far side of the huge dungeon and stopped in a corner where she pressed my nose to the wall and told me to stay. 
 
Now, this is NOT the kind of ‘play’ I am used to!  I like beatings…am not at all familiar with roll-play and abhor punishment.  However, I like her immensely and submit to her willingly; to say ‘no’ would end it all.  I didn’t want to but was incredibly frustrated by the sudden turn of events!  I do not ‘belong’ to her/them and perhaps have been spoiled a bit by them in play.  I dunno…I just know I was dismayed and burst into tears.
 
In a few minutes she returned to tell me to stop crying and go to the hotel’s concierge and return with a piece of paper and a pen.  When I did so, she led me to a low bench where she made me strip and lay down.  She sat next to me, handed me back the paper and pen, drew out a cane and proceeded to tell me to write the names of the 50 states while she caned my butt….again!
 
Lordy…it HURT; my butt was already sore!  Plus…I think I’m prideful; I do not like to look stupid!  But, I could not think of more than perhaps a dozen states (geography is NOT my strong-suit AND I was crying hard again). 
 
I think she got tired of my blubbering…or perhaps thought I needed a break of sorts; so she got the bright idea to cage me and go about saying hello to her friends there at Thunder.
 
The cage floor was perhaps 3’ square, maybe a bit more, and six or seven feet tall.  It was suspended from the ceiling, though only about a foot off the ground.  No matter; I have a horrible fear of heights (or is it falling?) that makes such things more than a little difficult for me.  Who knew; certainly she did not, that caging in such a place was in itself difficult for me; while it swung and swayed off the ground.  (Okay, I know I’m a big baby).
 
She left me there, saying I could ask for help if I needed it…but I wouldn’t be let out till I had all 50 states (and no…Washington DC is NOT a state!)  <sigh>
 
Okay…I cried and cried some more (a conscious decision to suspend reality?) at my plight; feeling quite sorry for myself.  Eventually, I worked up the nerve to ask smiling onlookers for help.  Many refused thinking it would upset ‘my Domme’.  Some friends of mine were quite concerned at my emotional state; I was a mess! 
 
Anyway…to make a long story short, I finally had all 50 named and waved to her to signal I was ready to get out.  She sweetly waved back and mouthed ‘I love you too, honey’…   grrrrrrrr  (lordy…did I tell you she’s GOOD???)
 
Finally, I just sat on the floor of the damn cage and stuck a hand out to steady it.  I really didn’t wanna puke!
 
She finally returned to me, read over the paper, and seemed surprised to find my states were not alphabetical!  Awwwwwww… poor me; she left again telling me to get it right.
 
GAWD!
 
Okay…what did I learn?  That Steph knows me better than I ever imagined…that she understood I’d been at my wits end over my kitchen remodel (it’s been in progress for SIX months!), that I have a hard time being out of control…and that I needed a release.  She gave it to me.
 
This woman is 33 years old; I respect her eminently and will continue to submit to her from time to time.  While I thought cages were pretty dumb, I can now see where they are tools of the trade…even if a girl doesn’t consider them a sanctuary! 
 
I hope this helps on some level,
bearlee
 
PS...another used to 'threaten' me with caging; but part of THAT deal was a litter-box!  OMG...consider that THAT would be the bathroom facilities!  sheeshhhhhhhhhhhh  Talk about humiliation!




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:52:30 AM)

Great story, Bearlee!

- Susan




deltadawn -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:52:51 AM)

A cage is an absolute reminder of my place.

My Master uses it rarely, but when he does it can be for the pure display of me there, or for discipline when he feels I have over stepped my bounds.  In both cases my mind is placed in full focus of my place in his life.

dawn




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:55:15 AM)

dealtadawn: I appreciate your reply. Thank you.

- Susan




Bearlee -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:55:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

and had an unlocked door, I could probably manage that quite well..  But a small locked cage? 

 
While I DO have a fear of heights/falling; I happen not to be clasustgrophobic.  Nor do locked doors particularly bother me.  But, apparently several people (on both nights at Thunder), seeing my dismay and tears, asked others why I did not just wiggle out or the ropes or open the cage door? 
 
HA...again, while my tears were real, there IS a certain willingness to suspend reality; in spite of KNOWING I could called over a DM for help, I did not.  Nope, I had no idea the cage was unlocked, LOL    I was put in there...and there I was to stay; per our history and agreement and trust.
 
Funny, us, huh?
 
bear




popeye1250 -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:57:54 AM)

I like the idea of "Bars" replacing a closet door.
You could use those round wooden dowels like the ones that you hang your clothes on, just make a frame with those dowels on hinges with a hasp lock on the other end and a d-ring bolted to the door frame which could be padlocked!
Pretty easy to do.
A "human-sized cage".
Hmmmmm, Susan, that could lead to a nice little game of "Jailor-prisoner" with "interogations" or "Jailor-spy" where the "spy" could be treated roughly, stripped, abused etc.
Then the spy could be taken into the "interogation room" to be subjected to repeated forced orgasms until she "squeels."




SusanofO -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 10:58:55 AM)

Bearlee: Yeah - but I would have assumed it was locked too, probably. Why wouldn't someone lock it? I'd just assume they did.

- Susan 




NurseKitty -> RE: What is the appeal and use of Caging? (9/2/2006 11:12:20 AM)

I'm fortunate to have a converted den in the house, affectionately referred to as the dengeon.  There are two small closets in adjacent corners, that are probably 3 feet square.  Sir took the door off one and has a metal frame from a bunk bed in place of the door.  There are maybe 10 or so bars running horizontally across from top to bottom.  It doesn't obstruct the view much.
 
w/We've had another submissive over to the house for a few scenes; she's had tendencies for years but is just recently decided to act on them.  She's married, two kids in college, career woman who is responsible for both her work and her home (her husband is out of town for days at a time for work).  She's the sort that has so much going on at once, it's difficult (damn near impossible, really) for her to quiet down, get settled and let go.  She's quite the talker.  The 2nd time she came over, Sir immediately bound her hands behind her back, placed duct tape over her mouth and placed her in the 'cage' while He turned his attention to me for several minutes.
 
The effect was wonderful.  She told me later that since she was forced to be silent and simply watch for a short time, it effectively helped her escape her vanilla life for the time being and focus her attentions on the scene and her submissiveness.  She was let out after a short time and joined in.  I could tell this time she was much more settled and focused, right at the outset instead of 20 minutes into things.




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