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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 9:57:38 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I introduced my sub to this state and it totally blew his mind. To feel like a savage beast thats been turned loose after so many years of being pent up is like opening a flood gate. For us it just comes naturally we have that *connection* and once  you do experience it, everything else pales in comparsion at least in my opinion. 

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 10:12:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		i noticed many folks stating that usually it was during intense sexual activity when they experienced this feeling and state of mind.  For myself, it doesn't even have to include regular sex, i can get there through other means, it is a mood that comes over me in the moment.  i can be on the cross, or simply bound anywhere in any fashion, or just getting dildoed or whatever, and then i seem to find myself in what seems like a primal zone, hence the title of my paper and this thread. *grin  What i wrote about however, was the deepest and longest experience i have ever had in this area.  The state of mind i was in was unique enough to write about it.  i feel this is a very fascinating topic, as to the capabilities of the mind, and how each of us are able to find pathways to free ourselves from all inhibitions and social mindsets, to get down to the raw nature of human sexuality.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 10:55:41 AM   
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I was lucky enough to see Midori at Thunder a couple years ago...she did a 'primal scene' with her boy...Huck.  Great fun; I recommend seeing her 'demo' if you can.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 1:35:15 PM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		Ah now that sounds interesting enough.  i love exploring this raw wild side of human nature. 

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 1:46:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		i don't know why but this whole primal thing is one of the things that i am curious about but also scares me

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 1:47:53 PM   
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i don't know why but this whole primal thing is one of the things that i am curious about but also scares me



Same here ,liljoy.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 2:20:26 PM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		Ah maybe you both need to do some reading/research and get more aquainted with that part of yourselves.  i know for me, that once i began to become connected within my body, and really learn to trust in myself, my instincts and intuition, and free myself of inhibitions, it became much easier to let go, be free, and really experience my raw human nature and not be frightened or ashamed of what i may find there.  It is also frightening for some to become that free in the first place too! Some folks don't know how to react at first, when they find themselves free of that which kept them bound in this or any other area of natural expression.  Of course, there is always an element of fear when traveling uncharted territory.  Then again, that is part of what makes it wildly exciting too. *grin  i am one that has always been up for trying new expereinces at least once.  Others may not even care to ever go there.  But if you ever do, it is something you will want again and again.  For since it is dealing with human nature, it does become second nature once you have allowed yourself the freedom to experience it.  *smile Just some thoughts.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 2:49:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am this ball of pent up emotions and no doubt negative energy. i have contant neck and back pain and have been told that a large part of the cause of the pain is the energy and emotions so i guess i should work on releasing at least some of it

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 4:35:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here goes, I've been reading this today and when Scooter came home and read this thread he commented "I know you posted to this one", and I had not yet.
 
Primal, well not to the lashing out stage, but I reach the animal noise, out of control, head spinning, nothing left but instinct, female cat in heat stage the minute Scooter is even close to inside me EVERY time and often reach that point during play almost immediately. But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds.
 
 It is so natural and happens so quickly that the first few months when we fucked he said it was like riding a wild bull, stating" and he's on, how long can he last before he's thrown". Lol, I know a few times I damn near did throw him.
 
It took a bit of training and takes a great deal of concentration on my part not to go there.
 
To me it is normal, I find it odd that this does not naturally happen for most; well I have been told I am hypersexual, lol.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 4:42:22 PM   
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 But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds.
 
 ....been told I am hypersexual, lol.
Don't let her fool you, lasting 60 seconds without zoning out would be a challenge. The last statement is an understatement...lol.

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 6:05:50 PM   
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 But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds.
 
 ....been told I am hypersexual, lol.
Don't let her fool you, lasting 60 seconds without zoning out would be a challenge. The last statement is an understatement...lol.


Too funny! *grin

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/14/2006 10:34:42 PM   
liljoy


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Status: offline 		ok i talked to Sir about my fears and as i knew He would He eased them

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 3:54:16 AM   
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 But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds. 
 ....been told I am hypersexual, lol.


Don't let her fool you, lasting 60 seconds without zoning out would be a challenge. The last statement is an understatement...lol.



And whose fault is it i go there so fast? Hmmmmm......certainly not mine.....

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 6:12:16 AM   
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oh does that mean i'm feeling primal? lol
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 But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds.
 

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 7:22:17 AM   
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oh does that mean i'm feeling primal? lol
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 But then I have a zero to subspace time of about 60 seconds.



Not if you are still able to type and focus on the computer screen......

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 8:00:33 AM   
liljoy


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Status: offline 		yeah it was a lame joke i admit it.

Seriously i cried myself to sleep last night. not the gut wrenching sobs because i seldom do that but the silent tears. i cried not because i was sad. i cried because i have all these emotions trapped in me that i've bottled up for so very long and the bottle will be broken and they will come out. Many of them are damn ugly some are beautiful. Once one starts stuffing the bad ones they kinda all tend to go in there. At least is the case for me.

i have only been to subspace once so yeah i admit it when i read that post i was jealous. i tried to make a joke about it but it just came off as bitter and petty sorry
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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 8:07:07 AM   
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Has anyone ever gotten to that point?  Or has anyone ever taken someone else to that point?   Where during a session or scene, you find yourself taken to a place of primal connection, as gutteral sounds may be the only thing you feel building from your depths?  Have you ever felt that beast like sensation creep over your body and shut your mind down so completely that you feel like you're taken to an altered state where perhaps the growling urge is to lash or strike out?


I take my girls there often... I very much enjoy that Primal level of play

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 9:13:57 AM   
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i have only been to subspace once so yeah i admit it when i read that post i was jealous. i tried to make a joke about it but it just came off as bitter and petty sorry


Aw, sweetheart i was not trying to make you feel bad. Sometime sooner or later you will meet the person (or if you have an owner, not enough in your profile and i do not remember from your posts) who takes you there. It is not easy to start letting go of all the feelings you are describing, it takes time, patience and a skillful hand. Doing so is often scary and occasionally painful but in the end you are set free.
 
You have to bear in mind i was collared for the first time at 13 and i also spent 18 years in the same collar so i do have a bit of advantage in that i've already learned to let go. All it took for me to go there again was the right set of owners for me.
 
 

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 9:37:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only times lately I have felt a beast like urge to lash out has been when reading certain people's posts.....

But I know what you mean. (say no more)
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edited to say, no one in this thread so far BTW! But they know who they are!

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RE: Primal Zone - 9/15/2006 9:50:05 AM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		liljoy,
 
Ya know we each have to go through certain levels of experiences and periods of awareness before we learn to figure out how to free ourselves of emotional weight.  Or, learn that we even have this weight in the first place. *grin
 
The fact that you know this about yourself will eventually lead you to your freedom, because you are setting that "intention." 
 
It is not petty to feel envious or jealous of another "IF" this will be the stepping stone that leads you to a break through, and "IF" you see these feelings as an eye opener, and do not hold on to them and let them foster self pity or resentment. 
 
i have been this way all my life, so for me this was just one continual and natural progression.  Hec, i was just being myself, always attracting and being attracted to dominant guys, never questioning at that time whether this was the norm or not, for me it just was.  Then one day, when i was about 15, i met a dominant leather dude on a bike who told me i was a slave, and that i would make a good slave for him! LOL!  At first, i said wtf dude? and i laughed at him, thinking he was looking for an easy piece of young prime meat and an easy house maid, etc., and i wasn't going to be his next sucker! *grin  It took him a little while to get through my tuff shell.   Until...he showed me first hand what it meant to be involved with a young Master and leader of a biker clan and be his.  Then everything changed from that point forward.  It happens at different times for different folks.
 
You have so much to learn and experience about yourself, and who you are and who you are becoming.  Take it easy on yourself! It will come... *smile 

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